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Who is the man??
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Goku 202 7.09%
Vegeta 279 9.79%
Krillin 208 7.30%
Piccolo or his nameks 212 7.44%
Gohan or Cool Gohan 135 4.74%
Yamcha 90 3.16%
Tien 120 4.21%
Muten Roshi 89 3.12%
Tao Pai Pai 71 2.49%
Frieza 69 2.42%
Cell or an android 86 3.02%
Buu 62 2.18%
Hercule "Mark" Satan 327 11.48%
Videl 90 3.16%
Bulma 104 3.65%
Yajirobe 99 3.47%
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy 68 2.39%
King kai or another kai 53 1.86%
Chi-Chi 83 2.91%
Goten 43 1.51%
Trunks or Cool Trunks 112 3.93%
Bardock 48 1.68%
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) 41 1.44%
Uub 42 1.47%
Oolong 90 3.16%
Zamasu 26 0.91%
Total: 1326 votes
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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Just got to the best episode of the series. :allears:

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Beerus is going to die protecting earth

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Beerus is absolutely a villain, it is just that our cast is largely made up of fairly amoral people so as long as he isn't actively engaged in evil and instead is there to have cool fites with then Goku and Vegeta are okay with him and nobody else can really do poo poo.

Just like Hit is a horrifying mass murderer who will kill anyone for money but Goku's okay with him because holy poo poo that fight!!

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

TheKingofSprings posted:

Beerus is going to die protecting earth

Some monster is going to try and blow up a food stand and he'll throw the Supreme Kai in front of the blast.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

anyone who thinks Beerus is a monster must be morally outraged when a cat spills their drink

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Rodyle posted:

anyone who thinks Beerus is a monster must be morally outraged when a cat spills their drink

Cats are also monsters. Adorable fluffy awful monsters.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Rodyle posted:

anyone who thinks Beerus is a monster must be morally outraged when a cat spills their drink

A life is equal to a drink true.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Cats are definitely evil and so is Beerus, but you can contain them and even have a nice relationship with the bastards. DBZ and DBS are actually stories about how everyone can be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society with good enough support and care.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Dias posted:

Cats are definitely evil and so is Beerus, but you can contain them and even have a nice relationship with the bastards. DBZ and DBS are actually stories about how everyone can be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society with good enough support and care.

Except Freiza.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Barudak posted:

Except Freiza.

Look, exceptions have to be made


Space Hitler is a pretty big exception

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Honestly Goku tries for Frieza, if he would just stop trying to blow up the planet every time things might work out for him.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Even then, our favorite Hitler learned the importance of hard work and self-improvement!

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
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Dias posted:

Cats are definitely evil and so is Beerus, but you can contain them and even have a nice relationship with the bastards. DBZ and DBS are actually stories about how everyone can be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society with good enough support and care.

You say DBZ and DBS, but I remind you that this series started with a baby literally programmed to commit genocide on a planetary scale, who then proceeded to befriend a bandit, an assassin (and his sidekick), and a being literally made of evil (or is that just his dad?) who proclaimed himself to be the devil.

Dragon Ball has always been about how people can be redeemed. Even the most evil. Except for Freeza, not a lot you can do there when even his universal counterparts are still evil.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



it took 2 deaths for vegeta to be goku's friend. piccolo had to kill him first, even

freeza's a bigger rear end in a top hat than them tho so it may take a few more before he comes around

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Barudak posted:

Except Freiza.

He was given the chance, multiple times. He refused, so what are you gonna do. :shrug:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Goku should have left Goten with Frieza for a while, see if that turns him around.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I bet cell would be goku's friend if they gave him a chance

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Blaze Dragon posted:

and a being literally made of evil

Bulma isn't that bad, c'mon.

I agree tho, that was just the usual lapse of memory regarding DB.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Honestly Dragon Ball as a series is better for half the characters being kinda morally ambiguous.

I would say Gohan and Trunks are the only really heroic characters because they actively go out of their way to help people.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Dragon Ball Super epsiode in 2021: Uncle Freezer babysits Bra. Shenanigans ensue.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

TheKingofSprings posted:

Honestly Dragon Ball as a series is better for half the characters being kinda morally ambiguous.

I would say Gohan and Trunks are the only really heroic characters because they actively go out of their way to help people.

And both are miserable failures who never really succeed at anything.

DB is a universe that mocks the idea of heroism and shows that those who hold to it are weak and ineffectual.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



gohan succeeded once

technically trunks beat a bunch of people

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Gohan is succeeding as a good father, which is more than the rest of his family and friends can say.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

ImpAtom posted:

And both are miserable failures who never really succeed at anything.

DB is a universe that mocks the idea of heroism and shows that those who hold to it are weak and ineffectual.

Gohan's a doctor and like the 5th strongest person in the universe.

He also beats Cell.

If Toriyama wanted to be boring/funny he could've been air-dropped in to paste Kid Buu, too.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Funky Valentine posted:

Gohan is succeeding as a good father, which is more than the rest of his family and friends can say.

Krillin is a good father. :smith:

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Good dads in Dragon Ball:

- Grandpa Gohan
- Piccolo
- King Cold
- Krillin
- Gohan

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



it would have been hilarious if goku had instant transmission'd back to earth and picked gohan up to curb stomp kid buu

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Funky Valentine posted:

Good dads in Dragon Ball:

- Grandpa Gohan
- Piccolo
- King Cold
- Krillin
- Gohan

What about Mr. Satan?

Edit: Also Dr. Briefs, he seems like a pretty good dad.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Krillin has probably the best family relationship of everyone in DB and he's a kid raised by monks and a pervert who married a killer android and named his daughter after one of his exes.

Satan is a good dad and a good grandpa too, tbf.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

And then Kid Buu absorbs him again and we're right back where we started.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



what would happen if kid buu absorbed vegeta while he was dead

would he have just died or what

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Happy FatherTier Lists:

S Tier:
Krillin, who is happily married with a child and nobody is dead.
Gohan who is happily married with a child and nobody is dead.
Dr. Briefs who is happily married with two children AND a grandchild and nobody is dead.

A Tier:
Mr. Satan who has a happy child relationship and a grandchild but dead wife.
Piccolo who adopts children but lives alone in a crappy wasteland when he isn't babysitting.

B Tier:
King Cold who made his son a cyborg but never mentions his other son.
King Piccolo who was kind of a dick but had a large family.

C Tier:
Vegeta who goes to amusement parks with his son but has somehow forgotten to conceive his daughter.
Cell who sent his children out to kill the heroes but got them pasted by Gohan.

D Tier:
Goku who never kissed his wife, spent most of both of his children's life dead.


Happy Mother Tier Lists:

S Tier:
Bulma, who owns.

Housewife Tier:
Everyone Else.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

ImpAtom posted:

Happy FatherTier Lists:
TIRES DON EXITS

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Raxivace posted:

TIRES DON EXITS

Gokus only, Final Destination, no kissing.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Honorable mentions:

King Vegeta, who was a bloodthirsty warlord and signed the deal with the frozen devil that got his people genocided but had a bitching beard
Bardock, who made the unforgivable mistake of Raditz but saved his other non-failure son. Also bodied Super Demon 4 Towa.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

ImpAtom posted:

S Tier:
Krillin, who is happily married with a child and nobody is dead.

At the moment.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

King Cold also has a grandson.

Poor Kuriza was left without a dad thanks to some monkey savages.

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
If 17 comes back solely because he's bored and misses hanging out with his sister it's gonna be the best. I want him to be the cool uncle.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

BizarroAzrael posted:

At the moment.

Well Buu did kill them all that one time.

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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Rhonne posted:

Well Buu did kill them all that one time.

Yeah but the only person Buu isn't responsible for the death of is Goku and Mr. Satan and frankly Goku is arguable.

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