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Playstation 4 posted:My father is an expat lifelong conservative who voted for the first time for Clinton and no poo poo uttered the phrase "No ethical consumption under capitalism" while I was home. poo poo was loving surreal. Did you welcome him to the revolution?
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Playstation 4 posted:My father is an expat lifelong conservative who voted for the first time for Clinton and no poo poo uttered the phrase "No ethical consumption under capitalism" while I was home. poo poo was loving surreal. Good dad
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every vehicle my in-laws own is now decorated with a "proud participant, basket of deplorables" sticker
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Bushiz posted:every vehicle my in-laws own is now decorated with a "proud participant, basket of deplorables" sticker lol giving themselves participation awards is some fukkenn democrat poo poo
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It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did It might have even done more than Romney's 47% thing
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loquacius posted:It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did This and her royal guard trying to hide her feinting. People pretend that didn't matter, it probably kinda did.
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Nonsense posted:This and her royal guard trying to hide her feinting. People pretend that didn't matter, it probably kinda did. Did she ever get that shoe back?
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Nonsense posted:This and her royal guard trying to hide her feinting. People pretend that didn't matter, it probably kinda did. All these nothingburgers eventually piled up to a whole drat Crave Crate.
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it also happened like days after trump questioned her health, and it's that kind of timing that made it killer
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Bushiz posted:every vehicle my in-laws own is now decorated with a "proud participant, basket of deplorables" sticker My wife's stepdad's family is half military and they all make fun of Trump constantly but like him because they like his sec-def pick If you are the kind of person who has the exact opposite views w/r/t politicians' war strategies to mine (eg my wife's stepbrother who just got out of the Marine Corps, who said he liked Obama's willingness to drop bombs everywhere but wishes he'd signed off on more ground deployments and missions, which is literally the inverse of my opinions on Obama's military actions), the appointment of James "Mad Dog" Mattis is enough to make up your mind on Trump even if you were mad about the Khans Nonsense posted:This and her royal guard trying to hide her feinting. People pretend that didn't matter, it probably kinda did. People pretending that things didn't matter when they actually did is a good summary of basically every misstep of HRC's campaign Those Emails come to mind
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loquacius posted:It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did Anything that comes across as contempt for the public in general or some vague and ill defined but significant subset thereof is going to hurt and probably be co-opted if it's only really bad from the perspective of the person doing the initial labeling (like 47% and basket of deplorables are). Of all his stupid, loudmouthed idiocy I don't think Trump was ever stupid enough to take a swipe at a huge chunk of the electorate. Or at least I don't remember him doing it.
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Bushiz posted:every vehicle my in-laws own is now decorated with a "proud participant, basket of deplorables" sticker Tell them thanks, I now know who not to help when I see them on the side of the road.
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GlyphGryph posted:Of all his stupid, loudmouthed idiocy I don't think Trump was ever stupid enough to take a swipe at a huge chunk of the electorate. Or at least I don't remember him doing it. of the top of my head called the people of iowa stupid when ben carson was beating him in the polls mexico's not sending their best people, they're bringing drugs, crime, they're rapists trump making fun of a disabled reporter blood coming out of her whatever Zikan has issued a correction as of 17:10 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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loquacius posted:It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did don't forget "bad hombres"
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Yeah? well here is mine: His hat and hair are all just one wig piece. Have pity on the prematurely bald.
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loquacius posted:It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did the wild inability of the clinton campaign to turn a phrase could probably be made into a book all its own. Trumped-Up Trickle Down, America is great because America is good, Basket of Deplorables, Pokemon Go to the polls. Christ.
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Main Paineframe posted:don't forget "bad hombres" I didn't see anyone outside D&D latch on to this like they did "Nasty Woman", but this might be because I live in MA and so I know more white women than Latinos IRL nopants posted:His hat and hair are all just one wig piece. Have pity on the prematurely bald. it's alpaca, actually cruelty-free, really narrows your choices
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Bushiz posted:the wild inability of the clinton campaign to turn a phrase could probably be made into a book all its own. Trumped-Up Trickle Down, America is great because America is good, Basket of Deplorables, Pokemon Go to the polls. Christ. Don't forget "I'm With Her" and "Stronger Together", both slogans that said nothing and are just the most corporate, focus-grouped, inoffensive slogans one could pick. It's sad that literally the only thing in the whole campaign she seemed genuine about was the basket of deplorables thing that helped sink her. I mean, in comparison, "Make America Great Again" and "Political Revolution" are both calls to action.
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jBrereton posted:Her campaign team was great, because it was good I think you will find it was actually the best campaign team of all time and gotv was unimportant, as was visiting Wisconsin
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Don't forget "I'm With Her" and "Stronger Together", both slogans that said nothing and are just the most corporate, focus-grouped, inoffensive slogans one could pick. I kind of liked Stronger Together because it was about the Dems' broad diverse coalition but AFAICT they only used it during the brief window around the convention when they were pretending to do outreach to the left; as soon as they dropped the pretense it was back to I'm With Her
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loquacius posted:I kind of liked Stronger Together because it was about the Dems' broad diverse coalition But there was no call to action there. A good slogan is meant to engage the person hearing it. "Stronger Together" isn't engaging. It communicates the diversity idea, but it, like her entire idiot campaign, reeks of complacency. It's saying we are already strong together, so why bother doing anything more?
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:But there was no call to action there. There was a call to action, it was just a weak call to lovely action. "We are stronger when we are together" translates to "if we put aside our petty differences and work with each other we can accomplish anything," which is good in a vacuum, but doesn't account for the rhetorical power-imbalance between people whose opinions lined up with the DNC's opinions (who never felt the need to compromise) and people who disagreed with them (who, the slogan implies, needed to shut up and get in line) In short, when spoken to the kind of person it was theoretically supposed to reach, it sounded like a reprimand. I only kind of liked it because it meant something, anything at all, unlike "I'm With Her" which just means "the current speaker is declaring their fealty to the DNC's anointed champion"
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loquacius posted:There was a call to action, it was just a weak call to lovely action. "We are stronger when we are together" translates to "if we put aside our petty differences and work with each other we can accomplish anything," which is good in a vacuum, but doesn't account for the rhetorical power-imbalance between people whose opinions lined up with the DNC's opinions (who never felt the need to compromise) and people who disagreed with them (who, the slogan implies, needed to shut up and get in line) Even "We Are Stronger Together" is an improvement as it lacks that reprimand-ish quality and sounds like an honest invitation.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Don't forget "I'm With Her" and "Stronger Together", both slogans that said nothing and are just the most corporate, focus-grouped, inoffensive slogans one could pick. The only catchphrase from that brain trust that ended up landing was "Bernie Bro" because they were more concerned with stopping socialism than they were with stopping fascism etc. Good lord "#ImWithHer" was a terrible slogan
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Bushiz posted:The only catchphrase from that brain trust that ended up landing was "Bernie Bro" because they were more concerned with stopping socialism than they were with stopping fascism etc. it's fairly blatant pandering to idpol and female voters and even that didn't work out as trump wins white working class women by a landslide despite literally bragging about rape on TV
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Don't forget "I'm With Her" and "Stronger Together", both slogans that said nothing and are just the most corporate, focus-grouped, inoffensive slogans one could pick. this is basically Hillary Clinton's entire political career hiding her entire self behind a carefully focus-grouped, blandly inoffensive persona designed to fill as many appealability checkboxes as possible, but every time the mask slips and lets some real human emotion out it backfires completely also she was really really really good at saying things that could have the exact opposite meaning when quoted out of context
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Main Paineframe posted:also she was really really really good at saying things that could have the exact opposite meaning when quoted out of context Lol I was arguing with a couple people last week that were saying there was literally no way she could have foreseen how "we are going to put a lot of coal miners out of work" could have been taken poorly
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Zikan posted:of the top of my head 2 of those were attacks on specific people, and illegal mexican immigrants are not generally members of the electorate. Did you not understand what I meant, or is this being deliberately obtuse? The "How stupid are the people of Iowa to believe this crap?" line is the only one there that really comes close, and I wouldn't be surprised if it hurt him. Luckily for him Iowa is not a huge chunk of the electorate, and it wasn't a particularly easy sound bite to transmit (and Cruz was poo poo on actually capitalizing on it) Although the Iowa thing does prove me wrong, he definitely was stupid enough to have done it and got lucky he didn't. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 18:06 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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Bushiz posted:more concerned with stopping socialism than they were with stopping fascism etc. i mean, they are liberals, thats what they do
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im a deplorable and proud of it
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loquacius posted:I kind of liked Stronger Together because it was about the Dems' broad diverse coalition it's a lovely spineless k-mart knockoff of the moral monday slogan forward together, not one step back
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loquacius posted:It's kind of ironic that "basket of deplorables" ended up galvanizing more opposition than "nasty woman" did He also called Cruz a "Nasty Guy". So unless somebody really wanted to get offended about the "woman" part there wasn't much there.
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also trump was just saying what loads of other people have said. he wasn't insulting clinton's supporters like she did with basket of deplorables irredeemable
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Baloogan posted:im a deplorable and proud of it of course youre deplorable youre canadian
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Playstation 4 posted:My father is an expat lifelong conservative who voted for the first time for Clinton and no poo poo uttered the phrase "No ethical consumption under capitalism" while I was home. poo poo was loving surreal. wanna meet that dad
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