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Good Will Hrunting posted:Ah thanks folks. What does holding LMB do? Does this mean the fire will ping as soon as I finish hooking? Yep, otherwise the other person may be able to do something before it goes off. Don't be afraid to let go of the fire button if you see the hook go weird btw.
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I feel like Hog is a little slower than when I first played as him. Like the GCD between abilities feels a bit slower to me. Maybe it's in my head, though.
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At my SR (currently 1,000-1,100), I can safely say that it is Torb, Symmetra, Rein and Roadhog that are carrying me out, but Lucio feels like I actually make my team play better, because their dumb moves don't kill them instantly cuz I'm healing them and boopin' there enemies away from EZ kills
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I feel like Hog is a little slower than when I first played as him. Like the GCD between abilities feels a bit slower to me. Maybe it's in my head, though. Nothing to this effect has been changed since launch.
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Dec 29, 2016 19:53
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Roadhog intentionally has a lot of delay between the execution of his abilities. What's probably happening is that, after playing other characters (like Tracer, whose abilities and weapons all flow very smoothly with little delay) for a long time, he seems a lot slower by comparison.
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Dec 29, 2016 19:58
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Yeah I've been playing Tracer, Ana, Dva, Zen, and Soldier extensively for the past week or so and going back to Hog felt excruciatingly slow at first. Makes sense, I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything.
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Vermain posted:Roadhog intentionally has a lot of delay between the execution of his abilities. What's probably happening is that, after playing other characters (like Tracer, whose abilities and weapons all flow very smoothly with little delay) for a long time, he seems a lot slower by comparison. If he was able to transition between empty gun->reloading->full gun as fast as tracer (even with the extra time taken to slap a fistful of Genjibutt into the receiver) then he would be a crazily different and way more dangerous character. He and other tanks are probably slowed down out of necessity so that you don't end up with unkillable tanks who have zero downtime between actions.
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Dec 29, 2016 20:32
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I should play more Lucio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnMyik96pfE
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Dec 29, 2016 21:51
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I know Tracer's reload is faster than average (one second instead of 1.5) but do any of the characters have slower-than-average reloads?
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Dec 29, 2016 23:54
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Zenyatta's reload is pretty slow - 2 seconds? Bastion and Torbjörn too, apparently.
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Lucio feels much lower impact now. He was basically the only character I played for the first hundred or so hours, and then I rotated through a bunch more and didn't play him much because I'd burned out on him somewhat. Going back to him, the cumulative nerfs are really noticeable. Like he used to be so very good that you'd carry people and help a team totally despite themselves, just by reasonable positioning and use of Amp It Up. Now people have to want to be helped or you don't achieve much. Which is probably where he should be, realistically... but if you have a team that just won't group up and follow through the choke on speed boost there's not much Lucio can do for them, where previously it was quite possible to just keep them up at the choke and coax them through bit by bit. He can't keep them standing so much now.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I know Tracer's reload is faster than average (one second instead of 1.5) but do any of the characters have slower-than-average reloads? Just looked it up, I guess it's 1.5, feels longer though berenzen fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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berenzen posted:
Roadhog feels like it takes forever because I'm bad and constantly end up needing to reload when I should be shooting someone in the face.
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hit that reload button whenever ya got a second's peace
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FAUXTON posted:Roadhog feels like it takes forever because I'm bad and constantly end up needing to reload when I should be shooting someone in the face. Roadhog has a downright pitiful ammo capacity, and so you need to do some pretty significant shots or not bother at all since you can't plink away at people with him, and that's one of the reasons I don't particularly enjoy playing as him.
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Theta Zero posted:Roadhog has a downright pitiful ammo capacity, and so you need to do some pretty significant shots or not bother at all since you can't plink away at people with him, and that's one of the reasons I don't particularly enjoy playing as him. i love roadhog because I can plink away. you just have to watch your ammo. You can shoot 3 shots, throw a hook, and instagib a squishy before running off to heal and reload
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Dec 30, 2016 01:17
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Kilano posted:i love roadhog because I can plink away. you just have to watch your ammo. You can shoot 3 shots, throw a hook, and instagib a squishy before running off to heal and reload That's the thing, I don't like watching my ammo, I just like shooting the bad men, so I gravitate around characters like Ana, Soldier 76, and Zarya who you can just fire with pretty mindlessly and reload during down time.
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Bust Rodd posted:At my SR (currently 1,000-1,100), I can safely say that it is Torb, Symmetra, Rein and Roadhog that are carrying me out, but Lucio feels like I actually make my team play better, because their dumb moves don't kill them instantly cuz I'm healing them and boopin' there enemies away from EZ kills
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Dec 30, 2016 03:13
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I am a really bad Zen and was incredibly impressed with the hero when I killed a mercy with a single right click.
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Nevvy Z posted:I am a really bad Zen and was incredibly impressed with the hero when I killed a mercy with a single right click. if you hit every orb with a full charge, you do 230 damage. they can headshot too (meaning a max of 460 damage), so technically the orb volley is the strongest single click in the game outside of ults. you're not ever gonna do that but it's fun to think about
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you do do it sometimes, when you get lucky or the other guy is a moron e: or if you round a corner charging and a friendly mei is freezing someone
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Dec 30, 2016 05:52
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You can do that poo poo on Volskaya like it's clockwork. Both A and B point chokes if you're defending.
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I would much rather roll a string of the primary fire... I feel like the charged one is really unsafe, and sticking to the single shot + discord is better for flipping from target to target as they move or change priority relative to the rest of your team's damage. But that's just me. Also god dammit I am back on the Mei train and it is the best, coldest train.
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3 wins, 7 losses, placed 2100. No idea if that's good or not, I had some great games and some absolute rear end in a top hat ones where I couldn't land a bullet to save my life (literally).
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I zapped a Pharah to a pixel of her health on Nepal before she started flying, then jumped up and Teslad her to death. I fell to my death afterwards, but it was worth it. Also hit level 25 so I guess I can finally do competitive play, I'm almost dreading it. I'll probably stick with Winston/Zenyatta for that, I'm just not confident enough with my McCree aiming.
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Bruceski posted:3 wins, 7 losses, placed 2100. No idea if that's good or not, I had some great games and some absolute rear end in a top hat ones where I couldn't land a bullet to save my life (literally). It's on the lower end of midrange. You'll likely climb rapidly if you do fairly well in regular matches.
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Dec 30, 2016 11:31
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I got the Nutcracker Zenyatta skin and it's the goofiest loving thing. It makes me wish I was any good playing him. Or that I didn't hate him.
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Sym might be secretly amazing. On attack and defense. Just poop turrets nonstop as you chase your E shields and attack the whole time. Her damage output is goddamn gross and if you hide that shield ult cleverly, it's even crazier.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:29
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I mean, not really secretly but still, yeah.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:44
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I hope next year Blizzard doesn't make the mystery heroes christmas edition stick to only two maps. I'm loving sick to death of chokepoints. Hanamura is complete trash
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Theta Zero posted:That's the thing, I don't like watching my ammo, I just like shooting the bad men, so I gravitate around characters like Ana, Soldier 76, and Zarya who you can just fire with pretty mindlessly and reload during down time. DVA's guns have infinite ammo, so there's that. You and chookachookachooka at the bad men all day.
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Macaluso posted:I hope next year Blizzard doesn't make the mystery heroes christmas edition stick to only two maps. I'm loving sick to death of chokepoints. Hanamura is complete trash Hanamura is definitely trash, but I find Mystery Heroes is insanely stacked in favour of the attackers which is OK on Hanamura. The end is still a bit tough, but the fact that they only need one comp to be broken to lose the first point, and then will probably cycle into a bad stalling comp for the second point means it's actually more balanced than regular Hanamura.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I zapped a Pharah to a pixel of her health on Nepal before she started flying, then jumped up and Teslad her to death. I just started using Winston and while I love him I am so atrocious at using his shift jump, I always expect some kind of small leap forward and end up launching 400 ft into the middle of the entire enemy team. Also do you actually have to land on the enemy for the damage or does the damage count if you charge at them horizontally?
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It's a splash with falloff at the point where he lands if I recall correctly
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eleven extra elephants posted:I just started using Winston and while I love him I am so atrocious at using his shift jump, I always expect some kind of small leap forward and end up launching 400 ft into the middle of the entire enemy team. Doesn't matter how you jump or how far, just where you land. Though it's Winston so you are better off trying to come from a high angle so you surprise them, otherwise you will do like 300 damage, block 600 damage with your shield, kill no one and die. I'd love to see Winston be good again, but right now it's tough to play him in comp. everyone runs 2-3 tanks and 2 healers, which leaves very few prime targets for Winston. And then you end up with lots of strong Winston counters like Roadhog and Zen. And then you think you are about to get work done and Ana tosses a grenade at you. He's still fun in QP since you see terrible team compositions since everyone plays whoever they want.
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Yeah Winston's great at destroying squishies (so most Offense/Supports not named Reaper), but he folds pretty hard to just about any other tank. I really like him when the opposing team just has a single Reinhardt leading the charge, because you can just leap behind him and fry the 2-3 members standing behind him. Ideally you can leap back out before you take too much heat or their snipers get you, but if you've created enough of a distraction for the rest of your team to get in and mop up, then you've done your job.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I zapped a Pharah to a pixel of her health on Nepal before she started flying, then jumped up and Teslad her to death.
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If you like hog, soldier and ana sure. e: and d-va I guess. Naw 3v3 can be fun but it would be fun to get to try a version of it with weekly rotating heroes or something.
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I play a lot of 3v3 and I've seen every hero there pretty regularly (roadhog definitely takes top spot tho)
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