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I managed to beat the ult with a really odd team: Pretty standard for me: Ramza -full break and shout - lvl 90 Vaan - BSB - lvl 99 Arc - Shell and curaga -instant medica ssb - lvl 80 My attempt at wind damage: Luneth - lvl 80 -died in first three turns, effectively did nothing Cid - lifesiphon and Imperial wind ssb - lvl 66 (lol) RW - Zidane's BSB used with Ramza I don't understand how my level 80 Luneth died almost immediately and a level 66 Cid makes it til the end, especially with only Shell as damage mitigation.
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Varance posted:Quistis joins the BSB club... now to dive her to 5* black to make her useful! just wrath into her burst
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Dec 29, 2016 08:22
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Picked up Wakka's BSB on the dollar pull. Does the OSBfest have better drop rates than a normal banner? Seems like people are (mostly) having really good luck, myself included.
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Dec 29, 2016 08:25
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i did a last minute pull on the 1st banner and got mistelteinn or whatever. then my first 5* dollar pull but it was seraphim's rod.
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I was saving my last 11-pull for Banner 3 since I have none of the relics and really want Agrias BSB, Ovelia Media, or Celes Indomitable Blade, but I couldn't resist the urge to dollar draw and got Artemis Bow 
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Dec 29, 2016 08:57
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1st AD posted:I was saving my last 11-pull for Banner 3 since I have none of the relics and really want Agrias BSB, Ovelia Media, or Celes Indomitable Blade, but I couldn't resist the urge to dollar draw and got Artemis Bow I'll have 250 mithril for it and FF14. I'm not 100% if I'll roll super hard on FF14, but I guess I'll see what I do get out of my pulls. From what I've seen, that FF14 banner is pretty nuts.
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Dec 29, 2016 09:43
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1st AD posted:I was saving my last 11-pull for Banner 3 since I have none of the relics and really want Agrias BSB, Ovelia Media, or Celes Indomitable Blade, but I couldn't resist the urge to dollar draw and got Artemis Bow Divine Heal is Ovelia's Medica on a better character, so yeah. Incidentally, drawing it means that I now have access to all but two of the Magic Blink SBs, including all three Medica variations. Only ones I'm missing are Firion's BSB and Kimahri's SSB.
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I think some of us are getting a little stir crazy, waiting not quite patiently for the banners we've allocated our mythril for. I know I am. People in the discord smellin' my crazy. My Canadian crazy.
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Charles Bukowski posted:I think some of us are getting a little stir crazy, waiting not quite patiently for the banners we've allocated our mythril for. I know I am. People in the discord smellin' my crazy. My Canadian crazy. Off-topic: does that smell like maple syrup? On-topic: Gold Knights, why art thou such stingy assbags? Hoping I get lucky with the better prizes, because there's no way I'm emptying the options out on Roulette.
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Dec 29, 2016 09:51
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So Cloud's USB was even more insane than predicted. Not only does Cloud get a flat 30% bonus to all physical damage he does after using the USB, his crit rate gets set to 100%. And remember, that USB also makes his attacks ignore the damage cap. Sephiroth's second BSB is also completely insane. Not only do the burst commands make him into Refia 2.0: Darkness Edition, but the BSB itself also applies a shield effect to the whole party that's absorbs the next two attacks thrown at each party member (basically like blink but triggered by both physical and magic attacks). CRITS. Speaking of crits, how do I make Refia hit for 9999 per hit with her burst command? I can only get her to do ~3k a hit on top-end bosses assuming no crits even after applying tons of buffs and debuffs.
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Dec 29, 2016 10:19
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the Orb of Zot posted:Speaking of crits, how do I make Refia hit for 9999 per hit with her burst command? I can only get her to do ~3k a hit on top-end bosses assuming no crits even after applying tons of buffs and debuffs.
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Dec 29, 2016 10:30
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Assuming you're applying dark bargain from her aoe command, you should easily hit 9999 with just shout, given the hits crit. The thing with Refia's BSB is that the opener sets her crit rate to 50%, and command 1 does double damage on crit instead of 1.5x. Really? I'm throwing around stuff like 20% damage RMs, the Dark Bargain command, Shout, stacking DEF drops (Armor Breakdown, Full Break, and Ark Blast), and I still can't get more than 3k a hit on the command before crits on the absolute top-end stuff. For reference, I was testing it on Apocalypse difficulty Enkidu and his ~5000 DEF. Is there something I'm missing? the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Dec 29, 2016 11:45
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I miss the Christmas music already. I'm getting really sick of this BING BONG BING BONG part at the beginning of whatever remix is playing every time I go back to the title screen.
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Shock Trooper posted:I miss the Christmas music already. I'm getting really sick of this BING BONG BING BONG part at the beginning of whatever remix is playing every time I go back to the title screen. Good news! Whatever that was has been replaced by buttrock.
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Dec 29, 2016 14:42
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CaptainPsyko posted:Good news! Whatever that was has been replaced by buttrock. I'm totally down with this dumb buttrock. (for the time being)
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Dec 29, 2016 14:52
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CaptainPsyko posted:Good news! Whatever that was has been replaced by buttrock. It was Crazy Motorcycle and it was pretty cool when it got going, Still More Fighting is always good though
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Dec 29, 2016 15:01
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Totally-calm-not-rage-pulled again on OSB banner - 1/11. Quistis BSB. Is this any good? It looks alright.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:27
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bilperkins2 posted:Totally-calm-not-rage-pulled again on OSB banner - 1/11. Quistis BSB. Is this any good? It looks alright. It's pretty okay! The best thing about it is she can wrath wrath -> BSB so you don't really need to dive her for black 5. The worst thing about it is that if Chain Biora wouldn't cap, it's better than her command 1, and you need to dive her to make her able to cast that. Also Bio is a relatively commonly resisted element.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:36
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Can anyone explain the greased lightning mechanic on Yda's burst? If you build up three stacks the next attack will be a 50 percent boost that stacks with everything? It sounds super niche but at the same time Im on a huge ff14 kick at the moment and maining a monk and I am really glad they are adding mechanics like this.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:37
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CaptainPsyko posted:It's pretty okay! The best thing about it is she can wrath wrath -> BSB so you don't really need to dive her for black 5. Not really - other than machines and undead, the only things that resist bio are more or less omni-resists. It's actually a pretty stable element for the most part.
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Dec 29, 2016 16:18
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Oryp posted:I don't understand how my level 80 Luneth died almost immediately and a level 66 Cid makes it til the end, especially with only Shell as damage mitigation. Luneth has terrible Resistance.
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W.T. Fits posted:Luneth has terrible Resistance. Like "worst in the whole game minus cores" terrible, if I remember correctly.
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CaptainPsyko posted:It's pretty okay! The best thing about it is she can wrath wrath -> BSB so you don't really need to dive her for black 5. Honestly it's still worth it to dive her for black 5 - Meltdown access is pretty sweet on its own, and I'd rather slam a weakness via Chain spells for my SB meter than Wrath. It's nice she has that option if you don't have the hones or weaknesses though.
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I'm having trouble deciding on whether to pull on osb banner 3 or 5. 3 looks like it should have better stuff, but I have 2 dupes (arc and ovelia medicas) and have a different Eiko medica too. 5 I have no dupes (but I have a different Vanille medica) but nothing really jumps out as something I would really want like celes-calibur and hamelin and Excalibur(T). Lustrous shield would give me enough +Holy for a holy team (but so would Excalibur(T)), and onion gauntlets are pretty nice but I don't have OK upgraded enough to make him useful yet. I am approaching 150 Mithril and would like to pull on one of these and the XIV banner and have enough leftover for the future.
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Still trying to decide on a team, though right now I've finished with the roulette bit entirely. (1 gil/chip felt like a joke when I have over 10 mil from this event). Relics I've got with SBs are. Gungnir(III), Defender (II), Overture (XIII), Onion Sword (III), Engine Blade (XV), Strange Vision (VIII), Mistilteinn (XIII, 6 starred), Thyrus (XIV), Dream Harp (IV), Fairy Flute (IX), Nephilim Flute (VI), Red Scorpion (VIII), Fixed Dice (VI), Sentinel's Grimoire, Bismarck (VIII), Platinum sword (FFT, 6 starred) Diamond Shield (I), Tiara (VI), White Mage Robe (III) Grand Armor (FFT) Only mainstay I've never swapped out since getting has been Gilgamesh, since even without a relic for him I've been enjoying having a solid tank. Kumog fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Leon is a very solid tank, especially with that relic you have for him. Darkborn Blade is automatically ranged, so you can put him in the back row, draws single target attacks/magic and buffs his defense by a lot. I'd go with Vanille (white mage) Ramza/Tyro (support, Shout/Wall) Leon (knight or darkness) Luneth (dragoon) Lightning/Onion Knight (combat/celerity) RWing Wall or Shout, whichever you don't bring yourself
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ApplesandOranges posted:Not really - other than machines and undead, the only things that resist bio are more or less omni-resists. It's actually a pretty stable element for the most part. Actually they don't tend to even. I've been touting Chain Bioga as The Real Flare for a while now, because it's two hits and the resistance on it is basically non-existant. Out of the upcoming Ultimate bosses(there's a neat spreadsheet someone threw on Reddit for this), it's as resisted/nulled/absorbed combined as Holy is, tied for second least. It just has like, no weaknesses. Ever. (By the way, Darkness is the least stopped element. Weird but true.)
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the Orb of Zot posted:Sephiroth's second BSB is also completely insane. Not only do the burst commands make him into Refia 2.0: Darkness Edition, but the BSB itself also applies a shield effect to the whole party that's absorbs the next two attacks thrown at each party member (basically like blink but triggered by both physical and magic attacks). We don't know the burst commands for Sephiroth's BSB2 yet. CaptainPsyko posted:The worst thing about it is that if Chain Biora wouldn't cap, it's better than her command 1 You can say this about literally every non-Powerchain mage BSB in the game. quote:Also Bio is a relatively commonly resisted element. No, it isn't. ParliamentOfDogs posted:Can anyone explain the greased lightning mechanic on Yda's burst? If you build up three stacks the next attack will be a 50 percent boost that stacks with everything? It sounds super niche but at the same time Im on a huge ff14 kick at the moment and maining a monk and I am really glad they are adding mechanics like this. Greased Lightning is a stackable status which grants +15/30/50% Attack and 3/4 to 1/4 cast time for all actions, depending on stack level, but is removed upon taking any damage. It's pretty terrible, unfortunately, because Stoneskin doesn't last very long unless you want it to go away, in which case it takes forever for the boss to finally erode it. Zurai fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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bilperkins2 posted:Like "worst in the whole game minus cores" terrible, if I remember correctly. Pretty much. Comparing all the characters in Global who can currently reach level 99: Lv. 99 Resistance - Character 224 - Celes 194 - Terra, Shantotto 191 - Krile, Ashe 187 - Maria 181 - Yuna 179 - Garnet 176 - Rosa, Y'shtola 169 - Sarah, Aerith 167 - Vanille 164 - Lenna, Hope 157 - Zack, Rinoa 152 - Lightning 149 - P. Cecil, Cloud, Squall, Thancred 147 - Refia 145 - Agrias 144 - Zell 142 - Warrior of Light, Garland, Beatrix, Balthier, Ramza 135 - Firion, Bartz, Zidane, Tidus, Vaan 130 - Tyro, Onion Knight, Delita 128 - Yda 127 - Leon 120 - Kain, Sabin, Auron 112 - Luneth Most of the high RES characters tend to be offense-oriented mages, followed by white mages, then down into the physical characters. Celes is an outlier, and I figure that's just meant to represent her Runic ability for those souls like myself who have been unfortunate enough to never pull one of her Runic soul breaks from the gachas. (Amusingly, her maximum RES is double Luneth's maximum RES.)
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Is there much of a difference between BSB's? I found that fenrir overdrive would carry me through the 60 stamina orbfest dungeon, but refreshing wandering dudes can be extremely tedious sometimes. As long as I pair a magic on a magic character or an attack on a attack character, will I see comparable damage and have an infinite aoe attack regardless of which burst I bring along? Or are there some I should avoid? Stamina is especially precious for me still and I would really hate to waste 20 on some dud ability.
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The people who know things posted:Luneth's Resistance That does partially explain the  Cid still only had 3 more Res, not counting gear. Oh well, neither of them is on my A team unless I need wind damage, now I know to gear Luneth for Res!
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MannersPlease posted:Is there much of a difference between BSB's? I found that fenrir overdrive would carry me through the 60 stamina orbfest dungeon, but refreshing wandering dudes can be extremely tedious sometimes. As long as I pair a magic on a magic character or an attack on a attack character, will I see comparable damage and have an infinite aoe attack regardless of which burst I bring along? Or are there some I should avoid? For the orbfest dungeon it won't make much/any difference, but some are better/worse for harder content. Ideally you want to be grabbing one that inflicts the element a boss is weak to, or inflicts breakdown effects on a boss, in my experience.
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There is a large amount of variance between BSBs, yes, especially once you get to Ultimate content. Right now, though, all you really want is a Hit All ability on entry and an AoE command to clear the five mini-Cactuar waves and instead of listing all of the BSBs, of which there are dozens, I'll instead direct you to this link. For Physical characters, I recommend you look up Shuriken Storm and add users to your Friends list. It's instant AoE damage on entry and the Defend command is fast cast AoE. It's perfect for trash waves. As for Magical characters, there's no single one that's as adapted to Orbfest farming but Proof of Existence is also AoE on entry with an AoE Defend command. Regular speed, though, which isn't the end of the world but isn't quite as luxurious.
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Zurai posted:We don't know the burst commands for Sephiroth's BSB2 yet. Oh. Still seems like Cloud is becoming the new crit master at any rate.
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I'm skipping banners 3 and 4 myself, and gonna try once more for Onion Gauntlets. For anyone looking for an interesting strategy on Earth Guardian Ultimate, I was able to clear him last night, thanks in part to finally getting the trinity for my party and using a Luneth RW. With my own Luneth BSB, I had three guys constantly interrupting wrecking the Guardian's poo poo with the attack command which hits 4 times and has a moderate chance to interrupt.
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Zurai posted:We don't know the burst commands for Sephiroth's BSB2 yet. And unlike literally every non-powerchain Mage BSB in the game, you need to dive Quistis to get to it.
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CaptainPsyko posted:And unlike literally every non-powerchain Mage BSB in the game, you need to dive Quistis to get to it. You're kind of missing the point by a huge margin.
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Zurai posted:You're kind of missing the point by a huge margin. Only because you missed mine by omitting the last few words of the sentence.
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So the only FFT character I have that does NOT have a relic is Agrias. I've been really good about saving mythril for when Orlandeau hits but I'd like some advice on what the best banner to pull on is for Agrias.
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