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Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Marlette's style is close to that of his late father, Doug Marlette, but a pale imitation, like Gary McCoy vs. Glenn. Doug (who died in 2007) was also a milquetoast liberal who drew for southern newspapers. When I expressed interest in cartooning as a kid my parents actually got me a book that he wrote; he was pretty much my first exposure to politoons.

My main beef with Andy Marlette is his pinprick pupils. I'm not sure how big you're supposed to draw pupils but it's sure as poo poo bigger than he does.

There is something very irritating about Andy's style to me. It's ugly but it seems like it doesn't have any reason to be. It just insists on being ugly, which is almost more off-putting than a more straightforward Joe Liccar or Clay Jones ugliness. (Branco manages to have both kinds of ugliness).

Anyway have some Marlette Sr. Toons:

As a liberal from Mississippi, he loved sticking it to racist old southern crackers. Jesse Helms was also a favorite of his.


Left to right: Monica, Phoebe, Ross, Joey, Rachel, Chandler.
He didn't handle 9/11 the best.



Overall, solid opinions, and art that was like his son's, but not lovely.

Mellow Seas fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Dec 30, 2016

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CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Man, with all that Dees' conception of the Illuminati has on its plate, I have to think that these "celebrity death hoax" projects are a real misallocation of resources.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I'm very confused by this Dees/Bad Reporter crossover

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
i'm most offended that he thinks joan rivers is anywhere near prince and bowie in terms of celebrity deaths people cared about

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

The guy who voiced Heat Miser in The Year Without a Santa Claus also died a couple of days ago. I don't see him on that Sheeple cover :colbert:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.


Holy poo poo, it's the same thing as the fake victims thing, except now it's faked celebrity deaths.

"I don't want this to be true, so they must be faking it! That must be it! The world isn't a crazy, sad, horrible place, it's just that they want me to feel bad, so they must have faked this just so that I feel bad about it! Yeah! Look, here's a thing that proves my point, I spotted it, neener neener neener Santa Claus is real." It's the logic of a six year old trying to jinx-personal-jinx her mom so she can't say that grandma is dead.

I never want to feel as much fear as these people do. Living that way must be... unbearable. gently caress.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.


Geez, so does Dees just straight up not believe in death anymore?

These aren't even young celebrities, I mean it's still sad that they've passed but it's something that was going to happen eventually. Why fake their deaths? Who would that benefit?

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost
If you're a celebrity you get the live-forever glow-juice injections, but you have to go into hiding as a person with a completely different craniofacial structure and musculature so the normies don't freak out. When I become a celebrity like I deserve I'll get to hang out with them on the secret celebrity island and we'll spend our days asking each other who we are. Occam's Razor, motherfuckers

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
Woulda made a "both the Dakotas" joke, but I can accept this.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Geez, so does Dees just straight up not believe in death anymore?

These aren't even young celebrities, I mean it's still sad that they've passed but it's something that was going to happen eventually. Why fake their deaths? Who would that benefit?

Maybe people who believe in these conspiracies see them as being like the Party in 1984 and just manipulating information in petty ways, just because they have the power to.

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost
I joke, but remember: Dees is actually, for-real mentally unsound and holding his beliefs up to any logical scrutiny is fruitless.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I need to practice drawing for an hour so I, too, can become a cartoonist. It clearly doesn't require talent or wit.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
If only it didn't have the racist caricature I'd love for the Polititoons '17 thread to have this in the OP:

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


rum sodomy Rainbow Dash posted:

I've set aside a day to update the cartoonist gallery for the OP, as I decided to skip that poo poo last year and just left up the 2014 cartoons.

Ideally I'd like the cartoon for each cartoonist that is representative of their work for that year. Something memorable or just particularly good/bad. I'm trying to do this fast, so if left to my own devices I'll just grab cartoons from a random date in the archive. I'm working in alphabetical order, so it's more helpful to grab cartoons from the lower half of the list as I will probably already have a cartoon picked out for, say, Bennett or Cagle.

Thanks in advance.
I liked this Toles because it pretty much summed up how I was feeling on November 9th when I saw it.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013


I too think it's ridiculous that humans and cars are treated differently.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.


this rabbit hole goes deep

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.

Okay, but, like, why though?
Even ignoring that these are blatantly different people who would need severe nosejobs and even bone reconstruction, what's the motive? What does anyone gain from a hoax like this?

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Posthumous album sales, silly!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Then he screamed at her as she danced until her shoes filled with blood.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Geez, so does Dees just straight up not believe in death anymore?

These aren't even young celebrities, I mean it's still sad that they've passed but it's something that was going to happen eventually. Why fake their deaths? Who would that benefit?

It would be pretty Andy Kaufman'sque if Prince had faked his own death and then went to accept an award disguised as his sister, I would give him full points for that. This isn't a new phenomenon either, some of the most popular conspiracy theories revolve around the topic - Elvis lives, Paul is dead etc...



My favourite one was Conservapedia's Andy Schlafly's obsession with Fidel Castro having died in 2006:

quote:

In August 2006, health problems led to the appointment of his younger brother, Raul, as temporarily president and head of the Communist Party in Cuba. Political analysts believe that the appointment marks the beginning of a transition designed to maintain Communist control over Cuba after Castro's death.[49] Castro's surgery was scheduled to repair a "sharp intestinal crisis with sustained bleeding." [50]

Bonded by their hate for the United States and capitalism, Castro and Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez created a close relationship. Both socialist countries have worked together on various political ventures.[51]

On May 1, 2007, Castro did not attend Cuba's annual celebration of May Day, leading many to believe that he had died. While Castro allegedly met with Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on February 25, 2010,[52] there is no independent confirmation that this was not in fact a body-double.

On February 18, 2006, Communist Cuba publicly recognized that Fidel Castro was no longer President of the State Council and Commander in Chief.[53] He was succeeded by his brother, Raul Castro.

In September 2011, it was claimed that a Venezuelan reporter had interviewed Castro,[54] but independent media have not confirmed that this was not actually a doppelganger standing in for the long-deceased Castro.

In February 2012 the mainstream media claimed that Castro met with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff. Predictably there have been no reports from the liberal media as to whether this was actually Castro or a lookalike.[55]

In February 2013, Castro allegedly[56] addressed Cuba's National Assembly, giving support for younger leadership in Cuba.[57] The National Assembly went on to re-elect Castro’s 82-year-old brother Raul.

On November 25, 2016, Cuba finally confirmed what the rest of the world suspected for over a decade and announced the death of Castro, although the cause of death was not immediately disclosed.[58] Exiled Cubans and Cuban-Americans celebrated the news of the revelation of Castro's death upon hearing about it.[59] Ironically, given his long-lived fight against Capitalism, his announced death occurred on Black Friday.

Numerous leftists, including Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau,[60] Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein,[61] Sierra Club president Aaron Mair,[62] and Jesse Jackson,[63] issued positive or semi-positive statements in response to the death of a man who killed thousands of people and left an extremely poor third-world country.[63] On the other hand, Republican president-elect Donald Trump gave very strong statements against the disctator, calling him a "brutal dictator" and saying that "Fidel Castro's legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights".[64][65][66]

The talk page is also fun

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

You Are A Elf posted:

The guy who voiced Heat Miser in The Year Without a Santa Claus also died a couple of days ago. I don't see him on that Sheeple cover :colbert:

someone is struggling to hold up a large pile of everyone who died this year. death is attempting to put heatmiser on top

"he's too much!!"

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
Please tell me that "JimR" on that talk page is Jim Rob. :allears:

Edible Hat
Jul 23, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Are there instances in history of a government claiming its leader is alive after he had died?

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Edible Hat posted:

Are there instances in history of a government claiming its leader is alive after he had died?

Cheney, I guess.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.


Conspiracy theorists continue to struggle with the concept of "people looking kind of like other people"

I think it's getting worse, he's even having trouble with the idea of siblings looking kind of like each other

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

loquacius posted:

Conspiracy theorists continue to struggle with the concept of "people looking kind of like other people"

I think it's getting worse, he's even having trouble with the idea of siblings looking kind of like each other

Just wait until these guys find out about professional impersonators, do they know that there are people who literally make their money off of looking kind of like major celebs?

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



CampingCarl posted:

Its OK guys, those celebs weren't really dead anyway.

Poe's law in action, I hope.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Shugojin posted:

I'm very confused by this Dees/Bad Reporter crossover

This was a good and funny post and I appreciate it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Vib Rib posted:

Okay, but, like, why though?
Even ignoring that these are blatantly different people who would need severe nosejobs and even bone reconstruction, what's the motive? What does anyone gain from a hoax like this?
Because once you start seeing a world in one way, it's hard to change it. Also because Dees thinks that Jews run the media and Hollywood is part of the media and Jews are bad.

Some of these theories are wildly ghoulish. There's one little bizarre adventure of a tale that claims that Bowie got plastic surgery because a bunch of people had figured out he was a serial killer. So he had the work done and faked his death and personally killed the doctor who did the job so nobody could figure out who he became. Then he stole the life of the guy whose face he impersonated and is now pretending to be him as he lays low. It's some odd poo poo.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Carrie Fisher strangled the poo poo out of mental illness?

... is this... actually AGC?

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
This is my favorite Steve Bell for this year



and anything with that loving hilarious caricature of George Osborne

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Hostile V posted:

Some of these theories are wildly ghoulish. There's one little bizarre adventure of a tale that claims that Bowie got plastic surgery because a bunch of people had figured out he was a serial killer. So he had the work done and faked his death and personally killed the doctor who did the job so nobody could figure out who he became. Then he stole the life of the guy whose face he impersonated and is now pretending to be him as he lays low. It's some odd poo poo.
Boy, all that work and they found out anyway! Seems pretty excessive.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type

rum sodomy Rainbow Dash posted:

I've set aside a day to update the cartoonist gallery for the OP, as I decided to skip that poo poo last year and just left up the 2014 cartoons.

Ideally I'd like the cartoon for each cartoonist that is representative of their work for that year. Something memorable or just particularly good/bad. I'm trying to do this fast, so if left to my own devices I'll just grab cartoons from a random date in the archive. I'm working in alphabetical order, so it's more helpful to grab cartoons from the lower half of the list as I will probably already have a cartoon picked out for, say, Bennett or Cagle.

Thanks in advance.

I've a few missing from the OP. There's Robert Ariail who is a generic (pro-establishment) conservative cartoonist. Just pick any cartoon he's drawn.

Then there's Tom Stiglich who is also a conservative cartoonist that dislikes Trump. What's noteworthy about him is that his cartoons range from relatively decent to Bob Gorrell:



And third, Red Panels. Uhh just use I guess and say nothing else

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Keiya posted:

Carrie Fisher strangled the poo poo out of mental illness?

... is this... actually AGC?

Priggee doesn't have a hell of a filter but his opinions are mostly good

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Hostile V posted:

Some of these theories are wildly ghoulish. There's one little bizarre adventure of a tale that claims that Bowie got plastic surgery because a bunch of people had figured out he was a serial killer. So he had the work done and faked his death and personally killed the doctor who did the job so nobody could figure out who he became. Then he stole the life of the guy whose face he impersonated and is now pretending to be him as he lays low. It's some odd poo poo.

Bowie really killed people? No dignity!

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012



This might not be bad for Telnaes, actually.

But this is still my favorite thing she's done this year:



As for Bell, I think these are among his best this year:







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Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Sandpuppy posted:

15
Not sure I'd want to head into the basement of a building that structurally unsound.

So I'm finally catching up on politoons after the election and I see Todd Rule is upset the greater evil won? My, what a shame. If only they hadn't been equally bad. :rolleye:

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