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The beats1 interview was basically saying that Trent finally allowed himself to look back at his previous work and expand on it. Since previously what he's done he just have a blank slate and do something new. He says a lot of his material from the 90s influenced this, but like straight up his own work and not something that happened at the same time he was doing NIN.
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The new EP is really good, the new tracks on Deviations are amazing. Was It Worth It? stood out on first listen, but it's all great, and I'm really happy to hear that unique Fragile percussion style again. Also the bass in White Mask.
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il_cornuto posted:The new EP is really good, the new tracks on Deviations are amazing. Was It Worth It? stood out on first listen, but it's all great, and I'm really happy to hear that unique Fragile percussion style again. Also the bass in White Mask. Yeah I finally got my Fragile Deviations files today and holy cow. I guess The March had been released before but I'd never heard it until now, what an awesome track. Lots of cool stuff on this, really excited to get the vinyl. EDIT: loving Claustrophobia Machine. Wow. Caseman fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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Dec 24, 2016 17:38
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Some guy's uploading all the Deviation tracks to YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqqh-6kEew8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPJ7YgECWk 
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Dec 24, 2016 20:05
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Sorry if this is a repeat, but I didn't see anything immediately. Two new major NIN works in 2017 http://pitchfork.com/news/70576-nine-inch-nails-to-release-two-new-major-works-in-2017/ I rather expected this given the new album was an EP.
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Dec 24, 2016 20:52
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It's really fascinating to hear the tracks that Trent left on the cutting room floor for The Fragile. It sounds like all that time he took off following TDS was really creative because the guy made so much great music that went in so many directions. I'd love to hear a version of 'Was It Worth It?' with vocals because it seems to follow on from the same style he was exploring with Into The Void and probably would have slotted-in really nicely after that track on the final album, but he had so much great material to work with it's not surprising that tough choices as to what should be cut from the final version were made. The Fragile still has the best sounding guitars of any NIN album, too.
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Dec 24, 2016 22:15
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Woah, small loving world. I just sold something on Craigslist to a guy who told me he's good friends with Josh Eustis and he knows Charlie Clouser and a bunch of other people 
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Dec 24, 2016 22:48
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The problem with the Fragile Deviations is that it's so long its absurd to try to listen to in one sitting. Normally albums are like an hour long but this is over 2 and a half hours long. I'm glad it was released though, there's some great stuff in there.
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Dec 24, 2016 23:36
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You don't HAVE to listen to it all in one shot ya know. Maybe make a playlist of the previously unreleased stuff and flesh it out with your other favorites.
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Dec 25, 2016 02:18
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I listened to it all in one go at work, and might make a playlist of Fragile and the cut instrumentals from Deviations in place because they feel right being in there.
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Dec 25, 2016 18:17
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Was It Worth It is exactly the kind of thing I think I really hoped would be among the Fragile unreleased tracks.
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I'm glad the instrumental version of The Day the World Went Away still includes the Na Na Nahs.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Some guy's uploading all the Deviation tracks to YouTube. Yeah I'm pretty into this.
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Dec 27, 2016 06:07
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Entropic posted:I'm glad the instrumental version of The Day the World Went Away still includes the Na Na Nahs. Trent's nahs and vocal synths are as important instruments as the guitars and everything else 
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Dec 27, 2016 13:54
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Trent's nahs and vocal synths are as important instruments as the guitars and everything else He also left the affected vocal that fades in to the first word on Underneath it All, which is the only bit of vocals left in that's actually jarring.
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Had these Fragile Deviations files on my PC since Christmas Eve but kept getting distracted and didn't listen to them until now. Oh my god 
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Pissing around through the Deviations files and my WITT file is missing the first ~30 seconds. Anyone know if this is intentional or an error? Cause I've already got those "The Fragile Instrumentals" from before and it's full-length in there, but I figured maybe it has something to do with being preceded by "Missing Places" this time around. e: I went and compared all three versions and there's 5 songs where the length between "Instrumentals" and "Deviations" versions are significantly different so unless your copy of WITT from Deviations is longer than 6:50 I'll just assume it's intentionally shortened. Diet Poison fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Dec 29, 2016 01:33
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Diet Poison posted:Pissing around through the Deviations files and my WITT file is missing the first ~30 seconds. Anyone know if this is intentional or an error? Cause I've already got those "The Fragile Instrumentals" from before and it's full-length in there, but I figured maybe it has something to do with being preceded by "Missing Places" this time around. quote:"We're In This Together" from Apple Music features an instrumental of the album version, while Deviations 1 cuts the intro off and has "Missing Places" flow into it.
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Am I crazy for thinking the Not the Actual Events artwork looks like the art for Bleedthrough before it became With Teeth? I don't know if he's really said anything about it, but I've been getting the impression this is supposed to be like, "here's what NIN could've been if I never actually kicked the habit(s)." Would make sense, at least to me, having this come out combined with revisiting The Fragile.
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Dec 29, 2016 14:39
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The organ(?) on "Was it worth it" is reminding me a lot of faith no more's "falling pieces" which is a good thing. I think that's my favorite out of the entire deviations album.
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Dec 29, 2016 21:03
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To me, Not The Actual Events seems to be motivated more by current events than primarily a musical or personal statement. More Year Zero and less Hesitation Marks. It's not as overt as YZ obviously; and of course, it can be both. The fact that one version of the download re-uses the Still artwork is a bit of a head-scratcher though. Because for the most part it doesn't feel like he's trying to be clever or self-referential; it feels more urgent than that. "Dear World" is the song that seems to have the clearest "meaning" -- a meditation on the social media age. "Pictures and faces on display, people who aren't here all the way." "The Idea Of You" and "Burning Bright (Field On Fire)" could also be social commentary, even though (much like YZ) they are also partially introspective, commenting more on the general human condition rather than naming names (even though maybe someday he'll perform them with a picture of Trump in the background). "The Idea Of You" sounds like a big gaslighting session -- somebody repeatedly insisting that something didn't happen, or it didn't happen a certain way, until the truth is distorted and nobody knows what to believe anymore. Which can be a statement on interpersonal relationships and social media, but also political campaigns. And the apocalyptic "Burning Bright" sounds like what some would describe as the death of "political correctness" -- basically, I'm tired of playing nice, not holding back anymore, and I feel that I'm entitled, even obligated -- "forgiven" and "free" -- to do so. Which sounds an awful lot like "Let It Go" when I put it that way, but... well, maybe we're seeing the downside of that same attitude. Just one interpretation of course. The lyrics are some of the least obvious Trent's written in a long time, which is cool. Still not really sure what "She's Gone Away" is about.
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I wouldn't deny that the album has some political or social message but I think it is also very much a musical statement as well, much moreso than Hesitation Marks or Year Zero were
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lol remember when Year Zero seemed topical because the Bush administration felt dystopian?
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I thought the artwork being reused was kinda a throwback to Bowie's The Next Day which might be my favorite album cover.
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I haven't really been a fan of the super-minimalist version of the David Carson art style Trent seems to love. The original Fragile designs had some interesting stuff going on, but the more stark and minimalistic it gets, the more it seems really low-effort and dull. I quite liked the original cover for The Fragile, within the context of the art design of the rest of the packaging. The fold-out double-CD case was really nice to look at when you actually had it in your hands even if the front image by itself is pretty unexciting when it shows up on your iPod.  And the Fragile era had my favorite NIN art ever:  But this is just   This wasn't much better:  And NTAE seems to literally just be the Still cover with different words on it? I was hoping he'd gotten away from boring minimalist art when he got Russell Mills back to design Hesitation Marks (which looked great!) but we're back to bland Fragile outtakes for everything apparently. 
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That ninwiki page says all the tracks tagged 'Instrumental' had vocals in some form whether it was just basic scratch vocals or completely finished.
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Entropic posted:But this is just I dunno, he's stripped back a layer of The Fragile, so he uses the cover image without the red/orange image overlayed. Makes sense to me.
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i'll be curious if the packaging includes any green/flowers. i always liked how that contrasted with the front cover so much.
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Dec 30, 2016 22:43
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Kind of surprised no one else has mentioned it yet, but the Patriot's Day score is also really good, though it is more atmospheric background than even his previous scores
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glam rock hamhock posted:Kind of surprised no one else has mentioned it yet, but the Patriot's Day score is also really good, though it is more atmospheric background than even his previous scores the movie looks real bad and the music used in the trailer sounded super generic dont know if that was from reznor's score or not but I think thats probably why people arent talking about it much
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sleepwalkers posted:I dunno, he's stripped back a layer of The Fragile, so he uses the cover image without the red/orange image overlayed. Makes sense to me. Holy poo poo I didn't even realize it was part of the original cover.
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Was It Worth It is amazing, and I wish we got more tracks like that instead of poo poo like White Mask.
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Leon Einstein posted:Was It Worth It is amazing, and I wish we got more tracks like that instead of poo poo like White Mask. So, was it worth it?
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Sir Lemming posted:So, was it worth it? Eh, not really since he released most of these for free a while back.
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Dec 31, 2016 15:01
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Protips for playing the new NIN stuff on an Apple iDevice:
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Dec 31, 2016 18:39
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Minidust posted:
Ah, that explains why it never showed up!
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IUG posted:Ah, that explains why it never showed up! When I looked at it in mp3tag, the cover art showed up as "other" instead of "front cover" Not sure if this makes any difference
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Yeah art from iTunes is sometimes over 3000 px so I'm betting it's just a tagging problem and not the art itself
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BANME.sh posted:Yeah art from iTunes is sometimes over 3000 px so I'm betting it's just a tagging problem and not the art itself
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Leon Einstein posted:Was It Worth It is amazing, and I wish we got more tracks like that instead of poo poo like White Mask. I think you expected too much if you thought all the extra material was going to be fully-formed songs. I'm just happy we got some kind of Deluxe version of the Fragile at all since it's been sitting in limbo for half a decade.
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