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Leavemywife posted:Isn't there some sort of predator ( as it turns out, they share an environment with the wild supermecha godzilla. strange but true. e: there should be a xenomorph emote for fancy topical emojis when we snipe with an injokey shitpost. hypothetically i mean. e2:  with a headburster tia
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There's some spoilers for Covenant out there, no idea if their real, links also gone...but it sounds super dope to be honest. I'm more excited about it. It's definitely a sequel to Prometheus but with more Alien. David's role sounds perfect.
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Favorite ones, most iconic scenery for aliens/predator for me. More fans with more smoke.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:The expression on that Bill Paxton action figure is priceless. It sure is! CP, what are you using for the alien jaw-slime?
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I've read up on the difference between the M56/57. Was the M57 the end of the line? Was there a successor?
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CelticPredator posted:There's some spoilers for Covenant out there, no idea if their real, links also gone...but it sounds super dope to be honest. I'm more excited about it. It's definitely a sequel to Prometheus but with more Alien. Tell me everything, I'm really curious and spoilers will only make it better!
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CelticPredator posted:There's some spoilers for Covenant out there, no idea if their real, links also gone...but it sounds super dope to be honest. I'm more excited about it. It's definitely a sequel to Prometheus but with more Alien. Are they new or old? Wondering if they're the ones that state David creates the xenomorph by fusing android and protomorph (the alien on the Covenant poster) DNA and fucks with Walter or something else. Xenomrph posted:The comic series is 'Aliens: Apocalypse'. Thanks for the info, I'm going to try and find a way to read it because although I don't like the vast majority of expanded universe creations, that sounds like one of the more interesting ones and worth checking out so I'll try and find it. As for the Engineers in Prometheus, the idea that God is real and doesn't care about you or even like you is interesting and Scott was close to clinching something good with that idea but didn't really execute the theme terribly well, in my opinion. It looks like Covenant may very well tackle it again but from a slightly different angle given the rumors/spoilers. For me personally though Prometheus was frustrating in how it could have been a truly incredible film but had silly stumbles throughout, and it would have benefited tremendously from more time in production.
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Per 4chan I believe. No clue if it's legit, but if it is, I'm definitely down. -Main character is Katherine Waterston's Daniels but Billy Crudup, Danny McBride, and both androids get good screen time -I liked it fine, it was pretty spooky/intense when they first arrive on the Engineer planet and the ending sequence. As a Prometheus sequel, people might get upset. They explain what happened to the Engineers and the mummified corpses you see in set pics but there's not too much followed up on apart from the setting and black goo stuff. -Shaw is only in flashbacks when David finds the Covenant crew on the planet. She's dead before the movie begins and she sent the beacon the Covenant ship tracks to the planet. -The Neomorphs are spooky and burst out of a guys back and another ones throat. They run on all fours at first then stand upright later on. They also have fang teeth and two spike things on their back they can shoot. -I guess the only new monsters are the Neomorphs and some wildlife that has changed due to black goo exposure. -Score in the rough cut was the original Alien 1979 score, they said the OST wasn't done. -Sort of, he plays it straight this time (regarding characters) as an Alien film. Though some of the characters are generic like Prometheus. -Engineer planet is not populated by anyone except David. It's pretty much Earth-like but with crazy storms. You get to see the Engineer citadel and the city left behind. -No, it's the wildlife on the Engineer home world called Paradise. They are spores that send out an airborne version of the black goo basically when triggered. Those cause the Neomorphs -(would you say the characters are comparable to Alien?) I wish I could. Honestly, there are only a couple characters I really liked but the whole cast wasn't memorable like Alien. Walter is great, Danny McBride's character Tennesse was cool, and Daniels. -(How big is the budget?) Doesn't seem like it's too big, somewhere around 120-150. -Not that I remember, maybe a fly or something. -Daniels is good, she reminds me of Ripley in the first Alien. Similar arc. -David is a straight up villain yes. He's got a creepy shop of horrors underneath the Engineer citadel set up that you can see in pics I've posted in thread. Brownish looking room with failed experiments. Basically he fucks over the Covenant crew when he finds them so he can use them for Xeno experiments. Also he doesn't like Walter. -When David first tells the crew of Covenant what happened to Shaw, he claims she died when the Jockey ship crashed on the planet. Later we find out David killed her or exposed her to black goo for testing. -The atmosphere and general tone felt the most like the original yeah, but also a bit of the intensity of Aliens because theres more than one creature running around. -Ending was fine. I was a little confused, but it does set up a sequel. -She (daniels) doesn't start off a badass but grows along the way Posted Image -Engineer planet is pic related, they move through the forest and David finds them. From there they go to Engineer city and citadel. That's basically the location the whole movie. -David saves the Covenant crew from a Neomorph attack in the forest and brings them to the Engineer citadel which is basically his home. He fucks over the crew and gets people killed because he doesn't care about humans and wants to experiment. -It's 10 years after Prometheus, David has been there the whole time. The Engineer planet was exposed to the black goo and it has affected the environment. -David is able to somewhat communicate with the Neomorphs and wants to protect them -The Neomorphs are the main creature up until the 3rd act. David is able to lure a character into his egg room and exposes them to a classic facehugger. This spawns the Proto-Xenomorph. It's not the classic one we know, but the closest to it. It is more animal in nature. -It was just under 2 hours (runtime) I think. Rough cut looked good. Mostly practical stuff, real sets and on location filming. Just like Prometheus. -It is more violent than Prometheus. The Neomorph bursting scene alone is more violent than that movie. -Cinematography, set design, costumes, and everything looked great. I liked the locale of this film more. The forest setting was more interesting than the dull desert of Prometheus imo -The Proto Xeno is basically like the Runner in Alien 3, but looks like the one from 1979 movie. Looked pretty cool, but a lot of the CGI wasn't finished on it. -Deacon does not make an appearance -I felt the pacing was a little off, and it moved fast in places but I guess those are my only complaints -The Engineers are gone, at least on their home planet. David wipes them out. -David creates a Proto Xenormorph by exposing someone to a classic facehugger, but it's not exactly the one we know. I guess he's responsible for the facehugger. -Shaw is dead and David "dies" off screen -The only stuff that was claustrophobic was the last 15 mins or so when they get back on the Covenant. My favorite action sequence was the Neomorph bursting scene that happens shortly after they land on Paradise, really intense. Also the Covenant stuff at the end was cool. -Color tone of the movie I'm not sure how to answer. It was set on a planet with wildlife and Engineer structures. - the Engineers are barely in the movie apart from corpses -(philosophical and religious themes present?)Not much apart from the prologue with Weyland and David vs Walter later on -Inside the Covenant, lighting was like some of the images I posted earlier with McBride and Ridley on the bridge. Blue ish with some corridors being grey and red. -Space suits are closer to original film, bigger and not the bubble helmet design from Prometheus -It ends with Tennesse and Daniels going back into cryo sleep for the long journey to their original destination before receiving beacon at Paradise. Walter closes their pods and goes down to the colonist bay wheres theres 2 thousand grown colonists and 1,300 embryos or something. Turns out he snuck two Proto Xeno embryos on the ship and puts them with the human embryos. He skips away and movie ends.(this one maybe false) -David "dies" of screen after fight with Walter towards the end, Walter fights him because he tries to kill Daniels and Walter finds out David has been screwing them over the whole time. -Shaw reattaches David's head during the flight to Paradise with David's help. -I was confused by that myself. The whole film Walter seems to not like David screwing around with the Xenos or black goo then at the end it seems he has a change of heart. -Proto Xeno is the result of David's experiments or at least the facehugger is. -The crew have WY patches on their gear so I'm guessing in the 10 years between this and Prometheus, the merger happened. -We unfortunately don't learn anything new about them. When the Juggernaut ship David and Shaw are in arrives at Paradise, David positions the ship above the Engineer citadel. Thousands of Engineers look up in the sky confused, then David unleashes the full cargo hold of black goo containers and it wipes out all of them. The corpses are mummified. -The Covenant is massive and stays in a low orbit. The ship in these pics is a small drop ship the exploration team takes. Posted Image -When David takes out the Engineers, Shaw is still asleep in one of the cryo pods on the Juggernaut. She goes in there and tells David to wake her up when they arrive. David does it behind her back. "To create, one must first destroy." -At the end, a Proto Xeno is on board the Covenant. Daniels and Tennesse fight it and she has on the space suit, it's bulky(maybe false).
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Like this is the kind of thing I want in my Alien movies. I'm more stoked after those spoilers
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CelticPredator posted:Like this is the kind of thing I want in my Alien movies. I'm more stoked after those spoilers Yeah, same. It'll be a bummer if (covenant spoilers) we don't learn much more about the Engineers, though. I think Prometheus will be a stronger movie in retrospect if Covenant deepens the confusion and mystery around their motives re: creating humanity and then deciding to gently caress us up with goo. Give me more of those arrogant marble hitlers! I don't care that much about having the original alien 'explained', but I am interested in Ridley Scott's question of why anyone would make such a terrible thing.
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General Battuta posted:Yeah, same. It'll be a bummer if (covenant spoilers) we don't learn much more about the Engineers, though. I think Prometheus will be a stronger movie in retrospect if Covenant deepens the confusion and mystery around their motives re: creating humanity and then deciding to gently caress us up with goo. Give me more of those arrogant marble hitlers! I don't care that much about having the original alien 'explained', but I am interested in Ridley Scott's question of why anyone would make such a terrible thing. The thing is though, is that just because David eradicates all Engineer life on their home world, it doesn't mean that there still isn't others out there that have colonized other planets. We hear references to a citadel and the charred/mummified remains of the Engineers still there from when David unleashed the weapon on them, but for such an advanced race that was out seeding worlds with life, I'm sure they'll appear again in a future film in the series (Ridley Scott is directing another two or three Alien movies after Covenant). Besides, I recall Scott mentioning that the final film will lead into what we see in the original Alien which indicates we've got a long way to go yet.
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General Battuta posted:Yeah, same. It'll be a bummer if (covenant spoilers) we don't learn much more about the Engineers, though. I think Prometheus will be a stronger movie in retrospect if Covenant deepens the confusion and mystery around their motives re: creating humanity and then deciding to gently caress us up with goo. Give me more of those arrogant marble hitlers! I don't care that much about having the original alien 'explained', but I am interested in Ridley Scott's question of why anyone would make such a terrible thing. I mean, with these spoilers, isn't David basically an engineer himself? They already drew the link between Engineer/Human relations and Human/Cyborg relations in Prometheus, so David is drawing the next line to Cyborg/Xenomorph relations. We don't need more biological information IMO, because that just ruins the fun. Only questions I have after reading that giant spoiler block is where does James Franco come in? Does he have a scene where he gets high with Danny McBride, and why not?
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Re: Covenant, think of the symbolism of that name. The Covenant (the movie and ship sharing a name seems to be a theme of the new series) is a colony ship. The planet they find is supposed to be their Promised Land. Manifest Destiny and colonialism are going to be huge themes. Scott knows exactly what he's doing with that name. Or maybe I'm just reading my hopes into a single word too much.
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Maybe they find a coven of witches on the planet and they know a spell to contact the Engineers.
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Xenomrph posted:I've been getting in one heck of a "debate" on an AvP board about how "official canon" is stupid and arbitrary, and that "canon" and "continuity" aren't synonyms. It's been, well.... it's been a thing. My old school gorilla is sitting in a glass case along with other family heirlooms in my parents' house right now.
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Hodgepodge posted:Re: Covenant, think of the symbolism of that name. The Covenant (the movie and ship sharing a name seems to be a theme of the new series) is a colony ship. The planet they find is supposed to be their Promised Land. Wouldn't be a new topic for him, Black Hawk Down and especially Kingdom of Heaven are all about that poo poo.
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 "Hey, Alien. Whatcha thinkin' about?" "Oh, I dunno. Just alien stuff I guess."
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Lord Krangdar posted:In the actual movie can you see the human skull in its head at all?
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I sometimes wonder how different the franchise could have been depending on what direction they took the alien. Like the idea that the alien is actually an intelligent sentient lifeforms, a person, but it's basically a baby with no socialization and doesn't know what the gently caress is going on. Imagine ripley suiting up and going down to the colony in aliens ready to destroy these mindless killers only to find they've actually had enough time to set up a society and after some tense moments and a lot of misunderstandings they actually establish communications and realize the aliens just have a hosed up life cycle and usually only breed via some local animal and they actually feel a bit bad they killed so many humans but they were savage children who didn't know any better. Their eggs are seen as valuable for weapons dealers who essentially use aliens as child-soldiers due to their extreme effectiveness as a terror weapon when born in a feral state.
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Alien:covenant trailer with the Prometheus music, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVQlvEdL6s. Shows you how they just warped the prometheus trailer to make it look like an action movie haha.
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Baronjutter posted:I sometimes wonder how different the franchise could have been depending on what direction they took the alien. Like the idea that the alien is actually an intelligent sentient lifeforms, a person, but it's basically a baby with no socialization and doesn't know what the gently caress is going on. Imagine ripley suiting up and going down to the colony in aliens ready to destroy these mindless killers only to find they've actually had enough time to set up a society and after some tense moments and a lot of misunderstandings they actually establish communications and realize the aliens just have a hosed up life cycle and usually only breed via some local animal and they actually feel a bit bad they killed so many humans but they were savage children who didn't know any better. Their eggs are seen as valuable for weapons dealers who essentially use aliens as child-soldiers due to their extreme effectiveness as a terror weapon when born in a feral state. There's an 80s Alien ripoff called Star Crystal I very very strongly recommend you watch to see how that would turn out.
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who kilsl bishop gently caress that poo poo i ran into bishop once at a diner, was cool that's my story thanks
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Lord Krangdar posted:In the actual movie can you see the human skull in its head at all? If you watch it in HD and look for it, you can see the skull's eyeholes. I'm pretty sure they deliberately made it hard to tell whether it's there or not in order to keep the creature's alien-ness more ambiguous.
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I love the original and thought that Aliens was the prefect way to do a sequel. The first two films are outstanding. My only gripe with Aliens is that it take loving forever to get going, especially in the extended cut. On a first watch, you don't notice because you have no idea when the payoff is coming but when I re-watch it I always skip through the first 45 minutes or so. I've always thought the best approach for more sequels would be to somehow explore the "aliens on earth" angle. Like, a queen is brought back and all hell breaks loose in an underground bunker or something, similar to Half Life. This way, you have a new context plus the added tension of people trying to save themselves while at the same time trying to prevent an alien outbreak. The new trailer looks...mildly promising I guess. I haven't seen Prometheus. Alien 3 and 4 and the AvP movies were pretty much trash. I had a great time (for a while) playing the Isolation game and wish it had been successful. I think there's a lot of different franchises that would lend themselves well to the gameplay style (Terminator, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Friday the 13th).
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Apollodorus posted:If you watch it in HD and look for it, you can see the skull's eyeholes. I'm pretty sure they deliberately made it hard to tell whether it's there or not in order to keep the creature's alien-ness more ambiguous.
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Let James Cameron take the Xenomorphs to Pandora then let someone like the Rock and Michelle Rodriguez loose on them. Throw in a Predator.
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Basebf555 posted:Riddick vs. Aliens is something I'd love to see in the future. This must be a comic that exists.
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Aliens vs Predator vs Robocop vs Terminator vs ET vs Riddick coming soon from Dark Horse Comics
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BiggerBoat posted:I've always thought the best approach for more sequels would be to somehow explore the "aliens on earth" angle. Like, a queen is brought back and all hell breaks loose in an underground bunker or something, similar to Half Life. This way, you have a new context plus the added tension of people trying to save themselves while at the same time trying to prevent an alien outbreak.
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MonsieurChoc posted:A xenomorph makes the mistake of killing John Wick's new dog. A Facehugger impregnates Mad Dog and Iko from the Raid has to take the resulting Xenomorph out. Edit: Xenomorph from the corpse of Zod. Gatts fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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A couple predators come down to the future, post apocalyptic earth, unaware that in the dystopian hell of Mega City One, hunting the most dangerous game without a license is a hanging offense.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:A couple predators come down to the future, post apocalyptic earth, unaware that in the dystopian hell of Mega City One, hunting the most dangerous game without a license is a hanging offense. At the end, the Predators reveal that they are aware of this and have made a point to file all necessary paper work. The Judge apologizes for the inconvenience and wishes them good hunting.
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Kulkasha posted:Iirc that was one of the original drafts of Alien 3, an invasion of Earth starring Hicks. Also a 5 piece book series. It....does not go well for Earth. Fun read when I was 13 through!
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david_a posted:I think the cowl is supposed to change its level of translucency during the course of the movie but it's so subtle (and shots of the Alien are so rare) that I've never noticed. I want to say it's supposed to get more opaque? It gets more opaque, yes. Basebf555 posted:Riddick vs. Aliens is something I'd love to see in the future. Have you seen 'Pitch Black'? Fun fact: David Twohy is a huge Alien fan (hence the creatures in Pitch Black) and wrote one of the rejected Alien3 script drafts. Some of the ideas from his script got recycled in the Crematoria prison in 'The Chronicles of Riddick'. Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:A couple predators come down to the future, post apocalyptic earth, unaware that in the dystopian hell of Mega City One, hunting the most dangerous game without a license is a hanging offense. They were also originally published in the "prog" Dredd numbering scheme, and characters introduced in the crossovers have reappeared in later Dredd stories. That's right, Aliens and Predators are "canon" in Dredd's world. 
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