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Methanar posted:THEpunjabiBEAST Dxxxx : hey can i support? How badly did they lose?
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curious about this powerful synergy
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Dec 31, 2016 10:52
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League of Legends Seasons 7: very strong, very powerful
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Dec 31, 2016 12:28
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Have not had a chance to play in a couple weeks, seems as if to nobody's surprise that Camille is irelia 2.0 now with ungankability and busted as hell? new champ with 54% win rate.
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Dec 31, 2016 15:10
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Alright I need to try out Malz support.. Hope noone will flame me for it.
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Dec 31, 2016 15:40
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Have not had a chance to play in a couple weeks, seems as if to nobody's surprise that Camille is irelia 2.0 now with ungankability and busted as hell? new champ with 54% win rate. i think she wins about 65% of her games on probuilds.net. she's so broken that they need to consider removing entire skills from her kit
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Dec 31, 2016 15:43
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voodoo dog posted:Alright I need to try out Malz support.. Hope noone will flame me for it. A lot of Malz i've seen forget that his silence also refreshes Malefic's duration, so keep that in mind for trades and try to delay its use.
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Dec 31, 2016 16:06
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stump collector posted:i think she wins about 65% of her games on probuilds.net. she's so broken that they need to consider removing entire skills from her kit I am not entirely sure why she gets that second hop off the walljump if it isn't used against a enemy, every single other bruiser with mobility like that either requires a enemy target for the second dash or a cooldown reduction of it so they can't just avoid ganks for eternity while also engaging from a screen off.
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Dec 31, 2016 16:38
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sometimes i dont think riot has actually learned anything about balance since season 1
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Dec 31, 2016 17:46
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maybe she shouldn't have insane mobility, a heal and a slow, and a way better jarvan ult.
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Dec 31, 2016 18:28
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Darth Windu posted:Not sure which is stronger but my friend has been playing MF adc and it owns. Free kill at 6 for sure. if you mean me i was talking about the ziggs adc lane in general. idk anything about support malz, as i don't play any void based champions...too spooky
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Dec 31, 2016 19:34
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Tired Moritz posted:maybe she shouldn't have insane mobility, a heal and a slow, and a way better jarvan ult. It's not necessarily way better than jarvan's ult, like yeah you can escape jarvan's ult but otoh jarvan ulting on a squishie practically one shots them whereas I've seen plenty of camilles go too far in, ult on an adc then immediately die. At least jarvan would have probably got the kill.
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Dec 31, 2016 20:02
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I am not entirely sure why she gets that second hop off the walljump if it isn't used against a enemy, every single other bruiser with mobility like that either requires a enemy target for the second dash or a cooldown reduction of it so they can't just avoid ganks for eternity while also engaging from a screen off. Riven?
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Dec 31, 2016 20:02
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Camille's wave control seemed really bad when I tried her, you need tiamat to waveclear but also need trinity force to unlock her damage which makes her awkward until 1.5 items. I think her kit is keepable if they nerf her early trading and solidify her as a scaling champ.
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Dec 31, 2016 20:06
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mirrorquiz posted:if you mean me i was talking about the ziggs adc lane in general. idk anything about support malz, as i don't play any void based champions...too spooky Thank you my friend. I hope you come to terms with spookiness.
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Dec 31, 2016 20:14
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Tired Moritz posted:maybe she shouldn't have insane mobility, a heal and a slow, and a way better jarvan ult. The biggest problem is her mobility, really; they should have just called her Mobility the Creep. She can very easily choose when fights do and do not happen.
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Dec 31, 2016 22:44
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I'm glad to hear all the complaints about mobility creep that were thrown about back in 2012 are still relevant and completely ignored.
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Dec 31, 2016 23:03
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every champ except jhin that was released over the past 2 years has either had a dash or a pseudo-tp let's look forward to more dashes in 2017, everyone
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Jan 1, 2017 02:15
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I'm glad more champions have dashes because I like to play actual fun champions and not Cho'gath
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Jan 1, 2017 02:45
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Hashtag Yoloswag posted:every champ except jhin that was released over the past 2 years has either had a dash or a pseudo-tp Pseudo-TPs are soooo different from dashes though. No one is ranting about Tahm Kench's unparalleled mobility
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Jan 1, 2017 03:04
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Also the difference between free aim dashes and target dashes is pretty significant. The one exception being Ivern who can dash his entire goddamn team to any enemy or neutral unit for 80 mana. (Or whatever it is now.)
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Jan 1, 2017 03:10
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Orv posted:Also the difference between free aim dashes and target dashes is pretty significant. The one exception being Ivern who can dash his entire goddamn team to any enemy or neutral unit for 80 mana. (Or whatever it is now.) Yeah after you hit a skillshot?? A lot happens after you hit Blitz skillshot, too; it doesn't even dash Ivern himself very far most of the time because you've usually just been in a brush
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Jan 1, 2017 03:46
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kingcobweb posted:Pseudo-TPs are soooo different from dashes though. No one is ranting about Tahm Kench's unparalleled mobility well yeah, but i think they count in a way what with the tp nerfs it's just weird to me that they nerfed tp, then gave a big chunk of new champs big map play spells I guess also I'm mostly being facetious because champs with built-in mobility actually are a lot of fun to play, and the only ones in recent memory that have been completely overbearing are release ekko and camille
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Jan 1, 2017 03:55
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Shoutouts to Yasuo.
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Jan 1, 2017 03:58
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kingcobweb posted:Yeah after you hit a skillshot?? A lot happens after you hit Blitz skillshot, too; it doesn't even dash Ivern himself very far most of the time because you've usually just been in a brush I mean in a typical fight, yeah, it's not as impactful. But he can do some wacky poo poo in the jungle pre or post fight with it, save people, save himself, cause a lot of problems if the Ivern is any good. Comparatively, Illaoi's target dash moves her a foot forward and does a little damage. Everyone else has complete nonsense movement abilities, Taliyah and Bard, a TP on Tahm and then all the other people in the last two years have free aim dashes. I'm not going to agree that mobility is a bad thing, mobility is fun, but maybe they've gone a little overboard. E: Or more specifically what I'm getting at is that not all movement skills are created equal, and Riot is crazy. Orv fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 04:01
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i personally dont think champs with dashes should exist unless every champ can have a dash similar to the flash spell that everyone can have theres no good reason why champion x needs a dash but champion y doesnt, regardless of what kind of champion they are a super duper mega tank is just as dead if he gets caught by 5 mans out on his own as is a super squishy marksperson, and both of them can get away clean and trigger keyboard breaking bullshit frustration by tapping a button but thats fair and fine because everyone has the flash button so why exactly does the super duper mega tank need also a dash but the marksperson not or vice versa? there is no reason but some abstract idea of game balance or vision or whatever circklejerk that riot and the player base are notoriously poo poo at recognizing anyway so why not give up on any pretense of game balance being a factor and just give everyone or no one a dash just remove it from every champion kit and put it on a summoner spell then we will all run d for dash and f for flash and we can stop having this conversation about broken mobility because everyone will be just as broken or not as everyone else
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Jan 1, 2017 04:05
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Orv posted:E: Or more specifically what I'm getting at is that not all movement skills are created equal, and Riot is crazy.
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Jan 1, 2017 04:07
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Just give everyone Riven's Q. Then no one will ever be caught for any reason. No I'm not bitter about last night, why.
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Jan 1, 2017 04:07
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they barely nerfed TP also quit whining about mobility and git gud
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Jan 1, 2017 04:37
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They just need more abilities like poppy W to even things out
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Jan 1, 2017 04:51
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Darth Windu posted:They just need more abilities like poppy W to even things out Right, like an ult that prevents dashing out or any kind of movement out of it
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Jan 1, 2017 04:56
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Does Poppy's W prevent Camille's ult?
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Jan 1, 2017 04:58
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Orv posted:Does Poppy's W prevent Camille's ult? She disjoints during the movement portion, so almost certainly not.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:01
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I guess if the Poppy is any good the end result is the same, thanks to E.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:16
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how do you do masteries for junglers now? because i want to see if trundle pillar triggers the deathfire touch mastery with its 1 true damage. also what route do you do in the jungles now because i havent played since 2015.
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Slaapaav posted:how do you do masteries for junglers now? because i want to see if trundle pillar triggers the deathfire touch mastery with its 1 true damage. also what route do you do in the jungles now because i havent played since 2015. If you have hard CC on a basic ability 0/12/18 with courage of the colossus If you're a damage dealer without that then 12/18/0 If you're neither then lol get hosed Nunu Go bot buff - wolves - buff if you have good ganks at three, full clear otherwise
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Jan 1, 2017 08:20
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grasp of the undying suits my playstyle with nunu
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Jan 1, 2017 08:27
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Is Quasus actually good if you're under plat? Every time I've played it I've become an unstoppable split pusher that promptly becomes ganked by three people while my team mills around mid lane doing nothing while you're drawing all the pressure top.
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Jan 1, 2017 09:38
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your friend a dog posted:Is Quasus actually good if you're under plat? Every time I've played it I've become an unstoppable split pusher that promptly becomes ganked by three people while my team mills around mid lane doing nothing while you're drawing all the pressure top. That sounds like the split push experience in general, not specific to Quasus. The solution is to ward, and to start backing after every wave you clear. Just cancel the back if no one actually comes to stop you before the next wave shows up, quickly blow up that wave, then start backing again. Alternately, play Teemo and instead of all that fake backing just stealth beside a dead tower and use your mushrooms as additional wards. And spam your laugh.
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Addamere posted:That sounds like the split push experience in general, not specific to Quasus. The solution is to ward, and to start backing after every wave you clear. Just cancel the back if no one actually comes to stop you before the next wave shows up, quickly blow up that wave, then start backing again. Alternately, play Teemo and instead of all that fake backing just stealth beside a dead tower and use your mushrooms as additional wards. And spam your laugh. Thanks, I'll give that a try. e: The only reason I mention Quasus is because on any other champion that split pushes, they can still be useful elsewhere. Quasus really isn't outside of his slow and an aoe armor shred. He's not like Trundle or Jax or Yi that can still blow people up.
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