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Deceitful Penguin posted:If I had artistic skills, I'd draw 'The perfidious gaming swede, sitting on his pile of ill gotten gains as he refuses to make Victoria 3 solely to wound the hearts of the world'. Close enough for Swedish government work: 
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i think there's a screen somewhere in vicky 2's ui that shows immigration factors... maybe somewhere in the pops?
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Jan 1, 2017 21:41
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You have to hover over the specific POP I think so you can't really see why they are moving to a specific place unless you tag over to the nation they are leaving and find the specific POP that has people actually leaving. If I remember correctly, the information is fairly unusable anyway because there isn't really anything you can do to majorly influence it.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Someone has a liberty national value, and it isn't Mexico It actually is. Mexico has liberty national value, but not Canada, though. I also saw Uruguay with the order NV fall to Jacobins and triple in size in a few years before exploding in a million rebels and trying out every single government form a few times before they ended up where they started. Is there actually an explicit hardcoded nerf to Mexico's immigration? Groogy posted:Because there is tons of hard coding for how people should migrate and move in the scripts. Just like how it is hard coded that all of Italy's population should be exterminated in case you don't form Italy. Or my favorite, get instant game over because an AI pressed the "Form Germany" button. What's this about?
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You have the Redshirts rebels, they are scripted to revolt no matter what if you are not Sardinia Piedmont or you are not Italy. So if you are going for let's say a run as Venice or Papal States and don't want to form Italy you are put in a position where you have to exterminate all of the lower stratas of italian people in your empire. I ended up with an upper class of Italians and the Berbers from my colonies took over the lower stratas jobs since I barely had any Italians left in my Papal States game. Also image of the information you get for why a pop moves to USA:  edit: Reading script again, I could do another run where I manage to save the Italians by doing the cheesy way of running the Great Power by Prestige tech. Then the rebels won't spawn either. Groogy fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 21:55
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Groogy posted:Because there is tons of hard coding for how people should migrate and move in the scripts. Just like how it is hard coded that all of Italy's population should be exterminated in case you don't form Italy. Or my favorite, get instant game over because an AI pressed the "Form Germany" button. In all seriousness this is why people (though let's be honest, there's not many of us) go on about V3 so much - the first 2 games were great in spite of being kind of bad in a lot of places so the thought of a Victoria game with the polish and attention to detail of EU4 or CK2 is extremely compelling.
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Jan 1, 2017 21:56
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Groogy posted:What the guy actually wants is just us telling what our secret projects are, which he for some reason thinks that Kickstarting it would make it come quicker. Im swedish, I worry a lot. Nah but more for the reasons Real Muensta wrote.
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double nine posted:He just wants Rome 2 & Vicky 3 Groogy And this
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Hey I am waiting for Vicky 3 as much as any of you guys, if it isn't clear Vicky 2 is my hate love game. I love it but so many things in it makes me hate it at same time. I love doing the crazy wacky things in EU3/EU4 and I want to do that again. Could Papal States become a great power? Could Texas potentially become a Aristocracy of Native Americans? Who cares it's what I want to do! I have something like 700-800 hours in my physical copy and almost 200 hours on my Steam copy I got when I started working at Paradox. It might not be as many hours as EU3 or EU4 but I still love it. Groogy fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 22:03
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Psychotic Weasel posted:In other news, it looks as though Paradox is indeed swimming in money as all of their major releases from 2016 (and some from earlier) all made Steam's top 100 sales list for 2016; Stellaris came in at 13th, EUIV at 29th and HoI 4 is 39th. Hell even Cities: Skylines came in at 33rd. I guess it helps that they compete in genres that don't have a lot of other options unless you're willing to drive into the grognard rabbit hole but here's hoping they keep up the good work. Are you talking about this list or do you have a better one. The one I linked to only sorts games into four categories. If you reload it a couple of times you'll notice that the placement of games within each category is random, so while it tells us that EU4, HoI4, and Cities:Skyline are all among the Top 40 games of 2016 it doesn't give us any idea which of them sold the most. Drakhoran fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 22:06
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So...how's it going Groogy? 
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Zombiepop posted:So...how's it going Groogy? I can't come up with any way to make Native Americans accepted culture in Texas so they can become aristocrats  So it is going badly. There's barely any Texans left though in my nation, most of them died in a second war against Mexico.
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Jan 1, 2017 22:21
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Nitrousoxide posted:Hoi 3 is pretty alright if you treat it as a Spanish Civil War game. This must have been the miracle, because the Spanish Civil War was the only scenario I played before seeking out EU3 instead.
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Drakhoran posted:Are you talking about this list or do you have a better one. The one I linked to only sorts games into four categories. If you reload it a couple of times you'll notice that the placement of games within each category is random, so while it tells us that EU4, HoI4, and Cities:Skyline are all among the Top 40 games of 2016 it doesn't give us any idea which of them sold the most. I didn't notice that it randomized, guess that makes sense though as Steam probably isn't permitted to release exact figures and they don't want people running around guessing. Still, they all placed fairly highly on the list and did well for themselves.
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Jan 1, 2017 22:46
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Psychotic Weasel posted:I'm hoping HoI 4 eventually goes down that path with enough expansions - I don't know why considering there is virtually no evidence to support a theory that they will but they did a lot of things with HoI 2 so I'd like to think they'll try again with 4 after 3 tripped out of the gate and suffered badly for it. Also I want them to piss off everyone who is still salty over East vs. West. To be good I think it would need to be it's own game and have a little bit of everything from previous games. War/Military from HOI Social/Political from Victoria Characters/Relationships/Events from CK2 I'm sure stuff from EU too but I haven't really played that one Then mix in some new Diplomacy, Espionage, and Economy systems to match the setting.
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Groogy posted:I can't come up with any way to make Native Americans accepted culture in Texas so they can become aristocrats Victoria 3 confirmed! release date 2017
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Mister Adequate posted:Close enough for Swedish government work:
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Groogy posted:I can't come up with any way to make Native Americans accepted culture in Texas so they can become aristocrats I can't remember the last time I played a game of V2 without using the console or editing the save file...
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Ricky is better than Vicky2 with all dlc
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Groogy hasn't been taking bug reports in the main game threads since he briefly worked on Stellaris. I'm convinced he's been working on Victoria 3 all this time. In the secret Wiz-Groogy pact they divided the new generation of Paradox games between them. Wiz became the director of Stellaris while Groogy is the secret lead dev of V3. I'm on to you, hedgehog man.
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Trogdos! posted:Groogy hasn't been taking bug reports in the main game threads since he briefly worked on Stellaris. I'm convinced he's been working on Victoria 3 all this time. In the secret Wiz-Groogy pact they divided the new generation of Paradox games between them. Wiz became the director of Stellaris while Groogy is the secret lead dev of V3. I'm pretty sure the lead dev for Stellaris got put in charge of Vic3. Wiz got snubbed but he'll have the last laugh when he murders all the old design ideas and creates a better game.
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Victoria's Secret is going to be the Vicky 3 we all deserve.
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Demiurge4 posted:I'm pretty sure the lead dev for Stellaris got put in charge of Vic3. Wiz got snubbed but he'll have the last laugh when he murders all the old design ideas and creates a better game.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Ricky is better than Vicky2 with all dlc Ricky owns but I'll admit I've never even tried Vicky 2.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Ricky is better than Vicky2 with all dlc Naturally, since it is still the best game ever
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I never played Ricky. Just had Johan tell me about the genius move of putting a button.... inside another button and I face palmed myself so hard I got a concussion.
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Groogy posted:I never played Ricky. Just had Johan tell me about the genius move of putting a button.... inside another button and I face palmed myself so hard I got a concussion. what no really, what
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gonna split some pops in china, see ya later
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I like the strat where you buy non-core provinces off Russia, get all the non-Russians to migrate to your other provinces, then sell the massively depopulated provinces back to Russia at a premium because they're now Russian culture  At least I think that's how it worked, it's been a long time.
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Remember when the Paradox Dev's official stance on the Taiping Rebellion was it wasn't important enough to be in Vicky 2? 
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Beamed posted:Remember when the Paradox Dev's official stance on the Taiping Rebellion was it wasn't important enough to be in Vicky 2? Under the current system, if the rebellion happens before Westernization you get 25,000 reform points because it counts as a separate nation and has huge population when you axxex the provs back.
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I have the strange urge to read EVERYTHING about a nation I don't know much about in EU4 (like Madagascar, Indonesia, South Americans, Indian states, you name it) before I dare try playing them in-game. Is this a stupid habit to have? I also have a hard time picking a nation to start as since there's no way I want to recreate Spain's historical Empire and decimate the New World (Or Portugal). I also want to change the Ottoman's religion to Manichean and carve out their empire under Aeon.
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Beamed posted:Remember when the Paradox Dev's official stance on the Taiping Rebellion was it wasn't important enough to be in Vicky 2? lol, and the way its in the current game is pretty halfassed as well. How do we simulate a dude declaring himself the brother of jesus christ and sending china into a death spiral? just have it break off with no military meh 
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Grouchio posted:I have the strange urge to read EVERYTHING about a nation I don't know much about in EU4 (like Madagascar, Indonesia, South Americans, Indian states, you name it) before I dare try playing them in-game. Is this a stupid habit to have? It's how I always do, I need to have the general "feel" of a nation to play it kind of. It is also why I love doing the propaganda stuff for whatever nation I play in EU4 Dev MP. Hansa - Freiheit und Geld Aragon - Mare Nostrum/For Gondor! (Okay was more based on the joke mission) Mameluks - Rule by Slaves Ottomans - The True Kaiser of Rome (I was also soooo close to get the HRE title as well!) I'm already reading up on some countries that I hope I am gonna get to be for the next game. *crosses my fingers for Smolensk* edit: Aaah reminiscing of my Hansa campaign where I fought Wiz as France for hundreds of years and then became his most loyal ally. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/paradox-office-multiplayer.730471/page-19#post-16526596 Groogy fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Beamed posted:Remember when the Paradox Dev's official stance on the Taiping Rebellion was it wasn't important enough to be in Vicky 2? Having been involved in that spat... the actual argument was "we'd need to code whole new type of religious rebel, rather than, gee i dunno, just giving Taiping protestantism as its state religion because close enough and spawning taiping nationalists, nope, would have to be religious rebels!"
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Also are there any EU4 Lets Plays in that subsection of this forum?
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reignonyourparade posted:Having been involved in that spat... the actual argument was "we'd need to code whole new type of religious rebel, rather than, gee i dunno, just giving Taiping protestantism as its state religion because close enough and spawning taiping nationalists, nope, would have to be religious rebels!" I remember King arguing the "it's called EUROPA victoria 2" thing in one of these very SA threads about this, didn't he?
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Agean90 posted:lol, and the way its in the current game is pretty halfassed as well. How do we simulate a dude declaring himself the brother of jesus christ and sending china into a death spiral? just have it break off with no military meh let's be fair: the american civil war, the flagship feature of one of vicky 2's major expansions, isn't handled any better.
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Grouchio posted:I have the strange urge to read EVERYTHING about a nation I don't know much about in EU4 (like Madagascar, Indonesia, South Americans, Indian states, you name it) before I dare try playing them in-game. Is this a stupid habit to have? I tried this when I did my Paguruyung game, but it seems that the sum total of historical knowledge of the kingdom amounts to not much more than  .
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