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DeimosRising posted:What the gently caress are you guys talking about? Have you ever seen a Dantoni team play? Amare-Capela-Harrell-Dwight-Pau...one of these things is not like the others, one of these things is not an athletic pnr big who can run the floor and block shots. Apart from his terrible attitude, bad back, and insistence on posting up, Dwight is the ideal Dantoni big. It's Pau who made no sense there (also Kobe, plus Nash died). Keep in mind that for a couple of years the league's most unstoppable pnr was Hedo Turkoglu and Dwight Howard Isn't it funny that Bill Simmons made fun of Jay Bilas for saying "wingspan" a billion times over a decade,, but half of the best /surprise superstars in the NBA are big hands wingspan guys It's just a sport where having long arms big hands and fluid hips is really helpful, there's no need to fight it
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DeimosRising posted:What the gently caress are you guys talking about? Have you ever seen a Dantoni team play? Amare-Capela-Harrell-Dwight-Pau...one of these things is not like the others, one of these things is not an athletic pnr big who can run the floor and block shots. Apart from his terrible attitude, bad back, and insistence on posting up, Dwight is the ideal Dantoni big. It's Pau who made no sense there (also Kobe, plus Nash died). Keep in mind that for a couple of years the league's most unstoppable pnr was Hedo Turkoglu and Dwight Howard Dwight was obviously more athletic, but Pau's passing, handles, and range ticked the D'Antoni skill boxes more in my head. Also, Pau's downgrade in mobility is lessened playing at the 5 at a time when Small ball wasn't really common as it is now. I think him using Wesley Johnson at the 4 was considered weird instead of the standard at the time.
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Hand Row posted:Here is the one dribble https://vine.co/v/591PH1L2VEz Jesus christ
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Yeah it's become very clear that was dumb as poo poo, and height never mattered just wingspan. No one talked about it in the 80s/90s but look back at Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, Sid Moncrief, or ESPECIALLY Chuck Barkley and they are straight up arm/hand mutants.
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Anyone recommend some more freedawkins highlight reels. Im not doing anything till Tuesday. Ive watched most of Giannas (and Embiid obviously).
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Tae posted:Dwight was obviously more athletic, but Pau's passing, handles, and range ticked the D'Antoni skill boxes more in my head. Also, Pau's downgrade in mobility is lessened playing at the 5 at a time when Small ball wasn't really common as it is now. I think him using Wesley Johnson at the 4 was considered weird instead of the standard at the time. No Dantoni team has ever had a 5 like that. He ran Amare in Phoenix (no range, no passing, unremarkable handles), Amare and David Lee in NYK (no range, not great passers, unremarkable handles), and now Capela and Harrell in Houston (straight up no passing, handles, or range at all). The closest to that would be Raef LaFrentz in Denver 20 years ago or Diaw playing some 5 when Amare got hurt. And both of those guys were dramatically more athletic and had much longer range than Pau. I love Pau but he's a triangle/corner offense big and totally out of place in a run and gun pick and roll offense. He wasn't even mobile when he was in Memphis.
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so i'm looking to get into the nba. is league pass the mlb.tv equivalent?
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DeimosRising posted:No Dantoni team has ever had a 5 like that. He ran Amare in Phoenix (no range, no passing, unremarkable handles), Amare and David Lee in NYK (no range, not great passers, unremarkable handles), and now Capela and Harrell in Houston (straight up no passing, handles, or range at all). The closest to that would be Raef LaFrentz in Denver 20 years ago or Diaw playing some 5 when Amare got hurt. And both of those guys were dramatically more athletic and had much longer range than Pau. I love Pau but he's a triangle/corner offense big and totally out of place in a run and gun pick and roll offense. He wasn't even mobile when he was in Memphis. Amare actually had an incredible jumper he developed in Phoenix. It was actually one of the things that made him one of the most promising guys in the league before he went to NY and it all went sideways
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the_american_dream posted:This was many pages and maybe even a different thread ago but did anyone mention Spud Webb as players there will never be another of? There will be when the Cavs unleash Kay Felder.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Our very own brolic wrote a great article about it that I'd link if I could find. But he makes Harden esque dribble moves but with the stride of a living wicker man. It's not fair to the other boys http://thesportsquotient.com/nba/2016/3/14/footwork-and-the-freak
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Time posted:Amare actually had an incredible jumper he developed in Phoenix. It was actually one of the things that made him one of the most promising guys in the league before he went to NY and it all went sideways No range was overselling it but he took at most at quarter of his shots from outside 15 feet and was not being used as a stretch big. Dantoni uses the 5 as a pick and roll finisher and transition finisher, and if they can pick and pop too that's great but not necessary and only very rarely will they be asked to set up at the elbow and run a corner set or something. Pau's skillset is totally wasted and he's not good at the things D'Antoni wants.
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straight up brolic posted:shameless self promotion You were pretty close for all your 2nd round draft pick predictions, everybody but Taurean Prince Henchman of Santa posted:There will be when the Cavs unleash Kay Felder. Kay is seriously a Nate Robinson clone. He has the exact same spring that lets him get space for open shots that Nate Rob had. Watch video of them side by side and the similarity is striking. Worth noting that he scored 33 pts in his d-league appearance and was immediately called back up. What's that unathletic short pg, Tyler Ulis, from UK doing, oh, nothing at all. NBA NV 1, professional scouts, zero
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/stan-van-gundy-donald-trump-comments-quote-interview-pistons/1vmykg1o2z5ok1qhrbxbh35rvdquote:SN: What is the responsibility of the person with privilege? SVG owns.
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Abel Wingnut posted:so i'm looking to get into the nba. is league pass the mlb.tv equivalent? yep
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Henchman of Santa posted:There will be when the Cavs unleash Kay Felder. THAT'S MY LIL BOY. He played very well in extended minutes the other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-E6IyXROyg AggressivelyStupid fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:Isn't it funny that Bill Simmons made fun of Jay Bilas for saying "wingspan" a billion times over a decade,, but half of the best /surprise superstars in the NBA are big hands wingspan guys Wingspan is the NBA's on base percentage and the smart teams are just hitting sort descending on a spreadsheet of prospects and drafting the wingspanniest dudes.
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ragle posted:this will end well After the firestorm of drama all that caused, he's signing for the minimum for a year. THANKS OBAMA Dexo posted:SVG owns. SVG totally owns
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Why would Donatas sign for less with a significantly worse team? Isn't it a shorter contract? With a front office that doesn't hate him (yet). And there's less expectations of being healthy if you play for the Pelicans
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Why would Donatas sign for less with a significantly worse team? Given that the Rockets rejected his physical, he may be at the point where insurance won't cover his contract and therefore nobody's willing to offer him something that they can't pay for out of the small change drawer. The only other team that was kinda interested was Utah but apparently that didn't materialize.
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Dexo posted:http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/stan-van-gundy-donald-trump-comments-quote-interview-pistons/1vmykg1o2z5ok1qhrbxbh35rvd He's a great guy. Too bad his team isn't good. Also: https://twitter.com/GilllianJordan/status/813911735618928640
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Haha "I don't eat no meat, you know, I eat turkey meat, chicken meat, trying to figure out how to cook that"
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DeimosRising posted:No Dantoni team has ever had a 5 like that. He ran Amare in Phoenix (no range, no passing, unremarkable handles), Amare and David Lee in NYK (no range, not great passers, unremarkable handles), and now Capela and Harrell in Houston (straight up no passing, handles, or range at all). The closest to that would be Raef LaFrentz in Denver 20 years ago or Diaw playing some 5 when Amare got hurt. And both of those guys were dramatically more athletic and had much longer range than Pau. I love Pau but he's a triangle/corner offense big and totally out of place in a run and gun pick and roll offense. He wasn't even mobile when he was in Memphis. Pau fit in great in D'Antoni's offense. See: the following season. D'antoni was just too stubborn to try and adapt until he had no choice.
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Rick posted:Pau fit in great in D'Antoni's offense. See: the following season. D'antoni was just too stubborn to try and adapt until he had no choice. Yeah D'Antoni was really a dick to Pau as I recall it. It was a weird roster situation but he could've handled it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNUZnFcycQ
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Dexo posted:http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/stan-van-gundy-donald-trump-comments-quote-interview-pistons/1vmykg1o2z5ok1qhrbxbh35rvd Dejan Bimble posted:Haha "I don't eat no meat, you know, I eat turkey meat, chicken meat, trying to figure out how to cook that" Yeah same, y'know.
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Reminder that the Portland Police Gang Enforcement Squad had a copy of that Cribs episode because of the people Z-Bo is hanging out with in it.
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Oh hey finally some real trade rumormongering https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/815693410057129984
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Time to trade the loving farm Masai
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Millsap was my ideal PF for the Rockets but I don't wanna gently caress anything up now. Plus Ryno is growing on me, what with him talking poo poo to Carmelo and going off every 5th game Dan D'Antoni is a cool dude 
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Dejan Bimble posted:Isn't it funny that Bill Simmons made fun of Jay Bilas for saying "wingspan" a billion times over a decade,, but half of the best /surprise superstars in the NBA are big hands wingspan guys They should honestly start listing Wingspan next to Height and Weight on player profiles. Especially when 'Height' is fudged all the time its become almost meaningless
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Away all Goats posted:They should honestly start listing Wingspan next to Height and Weight on player profiles
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chunkles posted:Millsap was my ideal PF for the Rockets but I don't wanna gently caress anything up now. Plus Ryno is growing on me, what with him talking poo poo to Carmelo and going off every 5th game Someone needs to show these numbers to Barkley, so he can do his patented chuckle and say that jump shooting teams should join the WNBA.
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Charles Barkley, French Minister of Defense in the 1930s: oh hell no dude tanks are lame, we need to build a bunch of forts instead. But not on the Belgian border.
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