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An account I started on a new tablet right around the start of OSB fest has Terra's OSB, Steiner's Tin Armor, Curtana, and now Bartz OSB 
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Last (maybe) newbie question: I have enough mithril for one more 11-pull. Should I use it now for overstrike p4 or p5 tonight?
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Jan 2, 2017 21:04
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Have you pulled on the XIV banner yet? It contains some pretty good relics on some solid characters. I'm sure someone else has something else to say about it but I might pull on that if I were you. Definitely hold out for a few more opinions but I think that's the direction I'd go.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:10
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Richard M Nixon posted:Last (maybe) newbie question: I have enough mithril for one more 11-pull. Should I use it now for overstrike p4 or p5 tonight? p5 is tomorrow
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Jan 2, 2017 21:14
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SuperHappy posted:At least it has really good base stats? Y'know... for those times when you want to run Tyro or OK through the Monday dungeon, lol. An OSB is an OSB, and Tyro's BSB is really good too. It's not like it'd be hard to have upkeep on both Wall and some other SB with Lifesiphion. I do it all the time.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:17
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Richard M Nixon posted:Last (maybe) newbie question: I have enough mithril for one more 11-pull. Should I use it now for overstrike p4 or p5 tonight? Consider XIV banner 1 instead. It's probably a stronger banner than either Overstrike 4 or 5.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:31
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Thinking about it, the existence of BSBs are probably the single biggest jump in power the game's had even with the bigger numbers coming out in JP now. Simply because it allows for so much more sustain. It greatly reduces the reliance on ability hones provided you've drawn the right BSBs. No longer do you need to worry about running our of R2 abilities in bosses since, after all, you have your burst commands. Sure, you still need some hones, but not near as much.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:39
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If you're going to do a pull on ffXIV, I'd hold off on deciding your party until you do.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:46
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I think I'm not approaching something the right way - I have both Stoneskin II and Asylum and I'm not sure how to be getting uptime on both. Y'shtola can use Wrath, but with a few things I've found using Stoneskin first leads to problems keeping the rest of the party up before she can use Asylum. Is there a better way to go about that?
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Jan 2, 2017 21:49
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Honestly I have both as well and I'm just using an RW for stoneskin. But I'm lucky enough to also have shout.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:51
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AweStriker posted:I think I'm not approaching something the right way - I have both Stoneskin II and Asylum and I'm not sure how to be getting uptime on both. Y'shtola can use Wrath, but with a few things I've found using Stoneskin first leads to problems keeping the rest of the party up before she can use Asylum. I don't know your situation but I have a question: are you using Protectga and Shellga with anybody or are you relying on Wall alone to tide you over until you get the Asylum train rolling?
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Jan 2, 2017 21:55
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Yeah you should probably just bring a wall RW still since ysthola's bsb is pretty great. I really don't understand why she has wall when that's like what you want the least on your white mage. While Tyro isn't amazing, having him with sentinel's grimoire is a godsend because my healer can actually use medicas when they get sb.
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Jan 2, 2017 21:57
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Tyro is the best support because he can Wall, Full Break or Multi-Break, plus there's some times he's situationally useful with his BSB (magic blink and dual breakdown commands) or SSB (3 earth AoE attacks).
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Jan 2, 2017 22:14
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1st AD posted:Tyro is the best support because he can Wall, Full Break or Multi-Break, plus there's some times he's situationally useful with his BSB (magic blink and dual breakdown commands) or SSB (3 earth AoE attacks). i start with his bsb to get a bit of extra atk/mag mitigation and also so i have extra slots from not having to bring shell or protect on anyone
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Jan 2, 2017 22:17
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Tyro's OSB is...bad. There's no mincing words about it, it's really bad. It's one of the worst OSBs in the game. In addition to Tyro's lowish base ATK, it has a lower modifier than the rest of them, and no element, so it'll have trouble breaking 10k even with buffs. It boosts all atk/mag/def/res and because of that stacks with ok/alphinauds buffs and sheepsong/shout. I'll take it for that.
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Jan 2, 2017 22:24
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RagnarokAngel posted:It boosts all atk/mag/def/res and because of that stacks with ok/alphinauds buffs and sheepsong/shout. I'll take it for that. FruitPunchSamurai posted:Yeah you should probably just bring a wall RW still since ysthola's bsb is pretty great. I really don't understand why she has wall when that's like what you want the least on your white mage. Panic! at Nabisco fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 22:26
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:It boosts them...by 15%. Compare to 30% atk/mag from OK, 30% mag from sheepsong, 50% atk from shout. Not really worth a SB bar use over keeper's tome or SG. I have all of those things so I'm totally cool with going overkill.
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Jan 2, 2017 22:30
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Okay so I'm looking at recruiting Terra, Arc, Steiner, and Auron to build out a good leveling party. From what I can tell from the wiki, the first two are unlocked from (several?) core story dungeons, but it just gives the dungeon names and not the dungeon number (like IV 11) so I can't really tell how far ahead they are from where I am now. Any tips on figuring that out?
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Jan 2, 2017 22:34
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if you have shout and ok bsb up, another 15% will work out to be almost another 30% attack boost to the base value and 25% to mag base value with sheepsong and ok bsb
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Jan 2, 2017 22:35
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:I don't know your situation but I have a question: are you using Protectga and Shellga with anybody or are you relying on Wall alone to tide you over until you get the Asylum train rolling? I'd been using proshellga. other goons posted:just RW your wall but no shout!!! I'll need to take stock of my hastegas in that case. And also move Quina to my A-team maybe, despite the fact that i have no lances whatsoever. Looks like Quina's going to be carrying the Shikari...
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Jan 2, 2017 22:36
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Combo posted:Oh poo poo I didn't even notice he had Steiner's armor. He's a good solid spellblade and knight, plus the armor soulbreak is very nice, definitely get him too. Early orbs would be better put towards survival anyways. As long as they can make it to bosses intact they're going to have an SB use for most if not all the party members and there's a lot of poo poo a new player can kill with a pair of OSBs. Especially when factoring in RWs (either OK/Celes/etc for more damage or heal/support BSBs). SuperHappy posted:At least it has really good base stats? Y'know... for those times when you want to run Tyro or OK through the Monday dungeon, lol. Tyro's first SB was the Healing Grimoire. Pretty sure SG was second. The Healing Grimoire is one of the few SBs to be released fundamentally broken and useless and never fixed/tweaked. If it'd been 1 SB bar instead of 2 it'd have been pretty decent even if they'd dropped the potency a bit but as it is it is one of a few SBs that required TWO SB bars to use natively. I guess it was pretty nice as a RW heal but by that time we had Hymn of the Fayth which was simply better period. AweStriker posted:I think I'm not approaching something the right way - I have both Stoneskin II and Asylum and I'm not sure how to be getting uptime on both. Y'shtola can use Wrath, but with a few things I've found using Stoneskin first leads to problems keeping the rest of the party up before she can use Asylum. I'm probably going to just bite the bullet and bring Tyro for SG and support work in general on a mage squad, something like: Maria - Meteor XVI, r4 Stoneja and r2 Chain Stonega Papalymo - Leylines, r2 Meteor and r4 Waterja or whatever Alphinaud - Deployment Tactics, a pair of r4 -ja spells TBD Tyro - SG, r2 Fullbreak, r4 Mental or Power/Magic Breakdown Y'shtola - Asylum, r5 Curaja, r2 Protectga/Shellga RW: Ashe/Maria/Alphinaud/etc type of BSB that Papalymo and ALphinaud will use later in fighters to burn bosses down (after buff reapply probably). I could RW a Wall and drop Tyro for Terra but honestly I think bringing a BSB nuke for two people to use is probably better overall. I'd probably split shell/protect work between Y'shtola and either Tyro or Alphinaud and go from there. I've neglected magic for a long time so I have to hone stuff up, and overall the group's probably going to be less potent than my physical team so it'll be a "well this fight needs magic" team and not my go-to murder squad.
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Jan 2, 2017 22:38
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Evil Fluffy posted:The Healing Grimoire is one of the few SBs to be released fundamentally broken and useless and never fixed/tweaked. If it'd been 1 SB bar instead of 2 it'd have been pretty decent even if they'd dropped the potency a bit but as it is it is one of a few SBs that required TWO SB bars to use natively. I guess it was pretty nice as a RW heal but by that time we had Hymn of the Fayth which was simply better period. Honestly I think SB's using two bars could be an interesting next step in evolution - they'd have to be very powerful, of course, to make them worth it. You wouldn't be able to Mako Might your way into them, so you'd need to actually build into it over the course of the fight, and you'd be deprived of other SB's for that character for the most part, but if it was powerful enough, like a multi-hit OSB with effect, it might be worth it. edit: VVVV yeah that was partly me - I thought it was Riot Blade but I was wrong. bilperkins2 fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 22:44
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Richard M Nixon posted:Okay so I'm looking at recruiting Terra, Arc, Steiner, and Auron to build out a good leveling party.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:04
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Nihilarian posted:I'm pretty sure that FFX sword you have is for Jecht and not Auron and I'm not sure why people keep telling you it's Auron's. If it is Jecht's, you can get him for free in a couple weeks so I'd make him you last priority. Because I can't immediately identify every item and someone else said Auron, which seemed right. He could always actually click on the item to see who its for.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:14
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Snazzy Frocks posted:if you have shout and ok bsb up, another 15% will work out to be almost another 30% attack boost to the base value If you have Vessel of Fate and Shout active, 15% will get you basically nothing because you're way over the Attack soft cap.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:23
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Zurai posted:If you have Vessel of Fate and Shout active, 15% will get you basically nothing because you're way over the Attack soft cap. well i was just talking raw numbers but effectively yeah youre right
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Jan 2, 2017 23:29
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Did 2 11-pulls on the XIV(I)! 2/11: Ley Lines, Aerial Blast 2/11: Blessing of Light, Stoneskin II Not a whiff by any means, and I finally got a Wall! But it's on Y'shtola, which makes using it a pain. (Don't have her BSB, though.) Ley Lines is cool and good. While I'm still rolling with my Locke-centric Fire Imperil team, I'm starting to look at a mage team which would, at present, look like: Y'shtola (Aetherial Pulse, Stoneskin II) w/ a breakdown of choice and a cure of choice, using OK RW magic attacks Penelo (Intercession) w/ main healing and Full Breakdance Terra (Scorching Flames) burning poo poo down Alphinaud (Aerial Blast) fanning the flames Papalymo (Ley Lines) speaking in a funny voice and getting pissed off at Yda all the time Is splitting the healing/support like that reasonable? I know if I try to pull the XIV banner again I'm not gonna get that sweet, sweet Y'sh BSB, even if I try real hard. It's hard stepping away from White Materia.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:56
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ffs i've gotten maybe one round of golden knights in the past two days. There's no way I'm getting all the prizes 
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Jan 3, 2017 00:06
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My encounter rate with the gold knights shot up considerably after I got all the prizes. Now I can't get away from them.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:16
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:ffs i've gotten maybe one round of golden knights in the past two days. There's no way I'm getting all the prizes If you're not going to make it, and there's still mythril/major orbs on the table, spend mythril refreshing orbfest. It's worth it at that point.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:19
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I just need two more Gold Knight encounters to finish the board and then I can work on all these events I've been ignoring.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:24
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The God of single pulls has offered me edge's BSB (and I have his lightning SSB and his water interrupt sb!) and yuna's curada ssb! I still don't know when I'd really use her though, all I have is her weak 5 hit summoning ssb. Believe in single pulls my friends.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:39
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Quick, probably dumb question about RMs: Looking at Rinoa's RM4 vs. Terra's - it looks like Terra's +13% magic works out to 22.3% extra black magic damage, while Rinoa's just gives a flat +25% bonus to black magic attacks. Does this mean that Rinoa's is better for a character that is never using anything but black magic, or does Terra's flat magic boost also interact with multipliers and stuff in weird ways and make it even better? I'm guessing Terra's is way better if you have realm synergy / gear synergy, but other than that is there any appreciable difference for a pure caster? I'm probably going to end up using a crystal on both of them at some point anyway since they make up 50% of my "black mages I have relics for" pile, but I'm just curious how the math works out.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:51
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OK following thread advice I took a pull from the XIV banner and then I couldn't help myself and took one more from Overstrike 4. I hope I'm done now. I got a few more 5*s and one 6*. Does this change my suggested party build of Bartz/Terra/Arc/Steiner/Jecht? I tried typing out my items instead of taking a screenshot because I have so few. ---Weapons--- 6*: Blood Sword (VI) - Terra Apocalypse (V) - Bartz Arbiter's Apocrypha (whatever the crystal icon is) - Tyro 5*: Danjuro (XII) Chocobo Wing (X) - everyone Sin's Talon (X) - Jecht Holy Rod (XII) - Penelo 3x Chaos Rod (X) - Yuna (I guess I can combine 2 of them for a 5+?) ---Armor--- 5*: Bartz's Cloak (V) - Bartz Tin Armor (IX) - Steiner WHM Robe (III) - Arc 2x Warrior's Gloves (X) - Paine I don't seem to have any good abilities yet (I assume they are all crafted) and no record materia (whatever the gently caress that is).
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Jan 3, 2017 00:55
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Did you completely whiff on the xiv banner then? Record materia is post level 50. You're going to be short on abilities for a while probably, orbs can be hard to come by which is why orbfest is so good.
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Jan 3, 2017 01:12
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Richard M Nixon posted:OK following thread advice I took a pull from the XIV banner and then I couldn't help myself and took one more from Overstrike 4. I hope I'm done now. I got a few more 5*s and one 6*. Might be good to stick Yuna on your team, that 2000 hp shield will whip you through a lot of story dungeons. And enjoy bartz' cloak, a particularly rare item with +20% wind damage. It might even be good to stick tyro on there, that group atk/mag/def/res buff on his OSB is nice too! But yeah bartz is going to be dumping a buttload of damage. Definitely grind orbfest as long as you can. Use like 3 people per team and go to town if you can survive! I got a weird item in my single pull, a mythril clip 3* (ffvii, hairpin). No def or res, but 22 ATK and 32 mag. I looked at who can equip them... Tyro and red xiii 
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Jan 3, 2017 01:18
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Richard M Nixon posted:OK following thread advice I took a pull from the XIV banner and then I couldn't help myself and took one more from Overstrike 4. I hope I'm done now. I got a few more 5*s and one 6*.
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Jan 3, 2017 01:29
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off banner Holy Rod (XII)? if you can get back up to 50 before the event ends I'd recommend another pull on FF14, it's a fantastic banner even if the RNG didn't work out on the first pull. I'd recommend against combining Yuna's rods for now; you can always change your mind later and in the short term they should have solid magic. Arc and Yuna's equipment are both real good, pick your favorite. Since you got Tyro's OSB that might be worth slotting in? Not sure who to replace though
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Jan 3, 2017 01:39
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Holy rod 12 is on OSBfest 4 though.
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Combo posted:Did you completely whiff on the xiv banner then? I'm assuming whiff means get nothing good from? I think the holy rod was from that banner, I didn't screenshot the results. superloosegoose posted:Might be good to stick Yuna on your team, that 2000 hp shield will whip you through a lot of story dungeons. And enjoy bartz' cloak, a particularly rare item with +20% wind damage. It might even be good to stick tyro on there, that group atk/mag/def/res buff on his OSB is nice too! But yeah bartz is going to be dumping a buttload of damage. Nihilarian posted:off banner Holy Rod (XII)? I may be able to get back up to 50 and I'll try another pull if I do. Why shouldn't I stack Yuna's rods? Just not the best use of mats right now? So I should definitely go with Yuna and Bartz, but what about the other 3? I don't know who replaces other people, so out of Terra/Arc/Steiner/Jecht/Tyro who would round out the team well enough to clear through a lot of the starter content?
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Jan 3, 2017 01:47
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