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JewKiller 3000 posted:we're talking about salary, not physical fitness, right? make sure to get ur rings and grill in the shot
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C.H.O.M.E posted:sometimes I see people running on the trail in jeans and a belt and I am just ??? loving same. Dude in chinos and a belt at the Y, what have you done wrong brother?
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dick traceroute posted:So... Hypothetically I have been doing (relatively technical) qa at this company for ~2 years. basically the minute you have a title change you should delete QA from your resume and never ever mention it. say you've been a dev the whole time. you stick around until you are a good enough dev to get hired elsewhere. that means having enough experience to talk about projects you've worked on.
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ah, so I will be a Hollywood reboot, basically makes sense to me, my resume will be... interesting. there is already a drastic career change in it before Qa. fully intending to kick rear end and have senior in my title in ~5 years, I've never gone halfway on anything related question: with the above goal in mind, is there any point finishing this open university degree (Computing and mathematics)? I sorta feel I'll learn more on the job/on my own than I will from academia. Also at the current rate I won't finish it in 5 years from now :-(
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https://dandreamsofcoding.com/2014/03/18/dissecting-an-interview-question/quote:if you can't do it, then you aren't going to be able to solve completely novel problems lol at the idea that that being unable to solve some interviewer's pet problem in a completely unnatural and high-pressure interview environment means you're unfit to solve novel problems double lol at the implication that (many? most?) developers need to be able to "solve completely novel problems" rather than just implement some well-understood solution to common business problem 42069 compuserved fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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I really can't think of anything worse than interviews for developer positions anymore just the false objectivity -- most other fields with lovely processes at least know they're being elitist selective assholes up front
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I work on novel problems and still basically my entire job is implementing obvious poo poo
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Bloody posted:I work on novel problems and still basically my entire job is implementing obvious poo poo good point, and same compuserved fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Bloody posted:I work on novel problems and still basically my entire job is implementing obvious poo poo
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Bloody posted:I work on novel problems and still basically my entire job is implementing obvious poo poo Same
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I got put in charge of doing the technical interview for some interns despite having zero experience doing interviews. What are some good questions to ask to see if someone is capable of self-teaching? eg. if something requires we use Ruby, Im hoping they can go online, find some pdfs/youtube videos/etc on ruby and get themselves up to a basic level without much input from me. We expect intern candidates to only have sophomore generic programming and reasoning ability and no prior experience.
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Blockade posted:I got put in charge of doing the technical interview for some interns despite having zero experience doing interviews. What are some good questions to ask to see if someone is capable of self-teaching? eg. if something requires we use Ruby, Im hoping they can go online, find some pdfs/youtube videos/etc on ruby and get themselves up to a basic level without much input from me.
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Elysiume posted:on-site or phone? On site
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i hadn't heard back from this recruiter over the last 2 weeks (probably holiday outage) so i sent him another email just to say "hey, can't wait to talk about this and here's an updated resume." that doesn't come off desperate, does it?
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:i hadn't heard back from this recruiter over the last 2 weeks (probably holiday outage) so i sent him another email just to say "hey, can't wait to talk about this and here's an updated resume." that doesn't come off desperate, does it? 1 email is okay, and shows that you're serious. 2 is desperate.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:i hadn't heard back from this recruiter over the last 2 weeks (probably holiday outage) so i sent him another email just to say "hey, can't wait to talk about this and here's an updated resume." that doesn't come off desperate, does it? kind of, yeah.
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compuserved posted:https://dandreamsofcoding.com/2014/03/18/dissecting-an-interview-question/ yeeeeaah, well, that question really is not a lot to ask of people who are supposed to be programming as a profession. even if you don't implement trees that much an awful lot of code does involve at least *walking* a tree of objects, so this seems solidly on the side of reasonable
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it's an ok question that any reasonable programmer should be able to solve in a few minutes but lol at the way he treats it as his holy Question with points deducted if you don't solve it according to his particular set of secret and arbitrary criteria
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big scary monsters posted:it's an ok question that any reasonable programmer should be able to solve in a few minutes but lol at the way he treats it as his holy Question with points deducted if you don't solve it according to his particular set of secret and arbitrary criteria yeah, this is what i was getting at
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otoh trying to suss out the hidden arbitrary criteria on which youre judged and trying to conform to it is a p important job skill. maybe theyre just testing for that?
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in my last interviews the only time I was asked to write a bst class it was just part of a tree manipulation question he didn't let me go to an array representation to make the problem trivial 
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ok now fix these 300 css bugs please
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at least I was applying for a c++ backend position on that one i can't believe people get those in depth algorithm questions for front end positions
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:yeeeeaah, well, that question really is not a lot to ask of people who are supposed to be programming as a profession. even if you don't implement trees that much an awful lot of code does involve at least *walking* a tree of objects, so this seems solidly on the side of reasonable i would identify as a programmer and i have literally never ever used a tree in my paid job. even outside of my job they have come up at best very rarely; i can think of only one instance, ever, where i used something resembling a tree in something resembling production code
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i literally don't even know what is special about a binary search tree without looking it up
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have you never used a std::map?
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if that is the same thing as a hash table, yes. are those secretly binary search trees
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yes. well there are other ways to do it but i don't think there's any reason not to implement a dictionary as a tree of some sort
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ya like tree of some sort makes sense for sure. idk what makes a bst a bst though and if someone asked me in an interview id just say uhhhh until they told me to leave
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what the standard library does doesn't seem that important, but in all jobs i have had there has certainly been elements of e.g. walking a tree of financial contract types, or users in potentially nested groups, or perhaps even the DOM at times. using search in an ordered binary tree as a standin for getting to verify that the applicant can at least in principle do these things seems fine i am sure there are jobs where different skills are called for, but i can certainly see the use of that question from the perspective of things i have done
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ive stagnated already but i love my team and the pay is good, and ill probably get a raise this month
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:what the standard library does doesn't seem that important, but in all jobs i have had there has certainly been elements of e.g. walking a tree of financial contract types, or users in potentially nested groups, or perhaps even the DOM at times. using search in an ordered binary tree as a standin for getting to verify that the applicant can at least in principle do these things seems fine ya there definitely useful in a bunch of applications and if your application happens to be one of those then by all means use it in your interviews
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idk it all just kinda irks me because i assume any decent dev can pick up basically any new thing in a few weeks or months which is pretty much always feasible here at least so id rather just interview people on like "are you good at googling stuff" and "are you good at learning new problem domains or concepts or technologies" than "do you already know specific technology x" even if specific technology x is a relatively common data structure. like i didnt know poo poo about lock-free thread-safe collections before my current project and now they're a central underpinning to it so like i'd rather find people that can figure out that part than people who just already know the thing. i also realize that this approach probably doesnt apply everywhere and i also have no idea how you'd interview for it in the first place
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the short answer to why hiring is garbage is because it's very difficult to evaluate somebody's ability to quickly learn and implement new technologies or methods and also companies think they can just have middle managers do it to save money and all they know how to do is check lists so you end up with concrete metrics and requirements being part of the process when they don't need to be. there's a reason that people and compabies specialize specifically in hiring and personnel management.
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laffo I've only made two real professional enemies in my career and they're both in management positions at companies I want to work at
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fortunately my only enemy is at a company i wish to avoid so much that i'd quit my job if we were even acquired by them
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on the bright side I'm not important enough to have enemies 
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i got an email from apple guy and i should have a phone interview with them in the next couple of weeks!
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:i got an email from apple guy and i should have a phone interview with them in the next couple of weeks! nice
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