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oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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RFC2324 posted:

What's the current status of star citizen anyway? First i have heard about a refund subreddit.

It's almost ready for release

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

uhrmmmmmmmmm is that a shmorky avatar who gave u that

A really cool person, who had to look up klurf porn, lovingly crop it, and spend actual money to make it my av.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Paladinus posted:

They've switched to a different engine a month ago. The game is slightly delayed again because of that.

A newer version of cryengine from the older version they were using, to be specific.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Mycroft Holmes posted:

We-WebDog? Is that you?
Well before my time. :regd09:

RFC2324 posted:

What's the current status of star citizen anyway? First i have heard about a refund subreddit.
Treading water.

Their "iron clad" TOS reportedly made by some assistant to their key legal advisor, which was stealthily forced upon players should they dare update, was found to be pretty bunk. Notably via the fact fair trading laws tend to over rule any company's decision. They already have a case against them regarding unfair trading practices owing to a no delivery back in 2014.

Subreddits have popped up with how-to guides to get around their stubborn refusal to refund the game. Complete with hilariously desprate emails from CIG where they show they horrid CitizenCon video as proof things are getting better.

They just did an engine "change" where they have moved to Amazon's Lumberyard game engine, which is basically CryEngine 3 that Crytek sold in a desperate bid to not go under as that company isn't paying it's staff.
Amazon basically upgraded it to 3.8 in an attempt to cash in on Stingray/Unity's model of game engine for all. It cost them $50 million.
This news was handled with a hash of a PR campaign where it was revealed to have been done back in Feb 2015, and snuck in by stealth under the cover of Christmas.

The main game of Squadron 42 is nowhere to be seen beyond a few scant screenshots and rumors of a prequel to get something out the door to state backers. It's not helped by rumors of key actors leaving the project, mo-cap data being completely useless with CryEngine and other optimization issues that refuse to iron out owing to the overall developer's experience waning as the turnover rate is massive given they rely heavily on eager cheap students who don't know better over experienced CryTek devs, of which there are very few many who want to get far, far away from the dumpster fire that's Crytek.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

shut up about star citizen unless you're talking about how loving insane the people in the SA subforum are

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

Alaois posted:

shut up about star citizen unless you're talking about how loving insane the people in the SA subforum are

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Somehow I managed to avoid any of the Kickstarters that turned out to be scams or were just managed so badly they failed. Don't remember why I didn't back Star Citizen because on its face it would be cool to see Chris Roberts actually deliver on what his stated goals for Freelancer were, but obviously that's not happening. I considered giving the Neal Stephenson backed Clang money but thankfully didn't. Confederate Express looked kind of cool but it was pretty obvious that at best they were over-promising. In that case it turned out to almost completely a scam and they made international news when they refused to pay the rent on their AirBnB, and then were going to sue the owner claiming that hard water destroyed their espresso machine. I've never bothered going into the SC thread because there's no way there's anything fresh or funny going on in there after 5 years of running it into the ground.

Improbable Lobster posted:

It seems odd to single them out for internet vigilante justice, considering that furries, religious people, MRAs, PUAs, Neo-Nazis and most internet social groups have their own fair share of scammers and bad roommates.

Almost like they're being targeted because they're LGBT.
Taking a quick look they also have thread about The Daily Stormer, /r/incels, /r/theredpill, Gamergate, and Black Israelites. Then there's less extreme topics like TV Tropes, and us. Cosplayers also have their own category so does that count as singling them out for hate?

I'm not white-knighting them here, just pointing out that they'll get their jollies anywhere they can.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Casimir Radon posted:

Somehow I managed to avoid any of the Kickstarters that turned out to be scams or were just managed so badly they failed. Don't remember why I didn't back Star Citizen because on its face it would be cool to see Chris Roberts actually deliver on what his stated goals for Freelancer were, but obviously that's not happening. I considered giving the Neal Stephenson backed Clang money but thankfully didn't. Confederate Express looked kind of cool but it was pretty obvious that at best they were over-promising. In that case it turned out to almost completely a scam and they made international news when they refused to pay the rent on their AirBnB, and then were going to sue the owner claiming that hard water destroyed their espresso machine. I've never bothered going into the SC thread because there's no way there's anything fresh or funny going on in there after 5 years of running it into the ground.

Taking a quick look they also have thread about The Daily Stormer, /r/incels, /r/theredpill, Gamergate, and Black Israelites. Then there's less extreme topics like TV Tropes, and us. Cosplayers also have their own category so does that count as singling them out for hate?

I'm not white-knighting them here, just pointing out that they'll get their jollies anywhere they can.

Very strange that only LGBT people get their own subforum and that this happened too.

Tofu Terry posted:

Nah they literally drove one of my ex's friends to suicide because she's trans and....talked about it I guess? Was easy to rile up? No idea.

then they made memes out of the suicide note.

So uh, yeah, that website sucks. So does shmorky, but still.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Improbable Lobster posted:

Very strange that only LGBT people get their own subforum and that this happened too.
Now you're just being dense. They're not the only ones with a subforum.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Casimir Radon posted:

Now you're just being dense. They're not the only ones with a subforum.


Casimir Radon posted:

Taking a quick look they also have thread about The Daily Stormer, /r/incels, /r/theredpill, Gamergate, and Black Israelites. Then there's less extreme topics like TV Tropes, and us. Cosplayers also have their own category so does that count as singling them out for hate?

Hmm gee, none of them have their own subforum

E:
Those subforums are, in order, General harassment, harassing women, harassing LGBT, post-harassment, and tumblr. Seems kinda biased that women and LGBT people get their own dedicated harassment subforums.

Improbable Lobster has a new favorite as of 05:31 on Jan 4, 2017

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


From the line on he website it sounds like they torment people like my girlfriend's sister, 22 year old lesbian who refuses to learn to drive or get a job. When she needs money she just goes to Tumblr and makes a post about how hard she has it and how rough her life is and people donate her gift cards or cash. But then that other poster said they pushed someone to suicide and that is definitely not okay.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Improbable Lobster posted:

Hmm gee, none of them have their own subforum
The cosplayers do. The rest are all in the community forum. It's possible to disapprove of what they're doing with resorting to hyperbole.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Casimir Radon posted:

The cosplayers do. The rest are all in the community forum. It's possible to disapprove of what they're doing with resorting to hyperbole.

You say that like the people on that forum are not, in fact, literally Hitler.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

"these people drove somebody I know personally to suicide"

"whoa now no need to resort to hyperbole"

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Alaois posted:

"these people drove somebody I know personally to suicide"

"whoa now no need to resort to hyperbole"
Aatrek was a pedophile, EVERYONE ON SA IS A PEDOPHILE AND I HEAR THEY EAT SWANS TOO!!

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
no but see it's actually okay for them to specifically target LGBT people, because somebody knows a lesbian who doesn't know how to drive

:rolleyes:

E: what kind of massive idiot do you have to be to take the organized group of harassers at their word when they claim to only be harrassing people who deserve it?

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Casimir Radon posted:

Aatrek was a pedophile, EVERYONE ON SA IS A PEDOPHILE AND I HEAR THEY EAT SWANS TOO!!

what's your kiwifarms username

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Literally every thread I clicked in their rat kings subforum had "tranny" "fag" or "dyke" in the first post. They consistently use the wrong gender for trans people and target them for crimes like

quote:

Jordan is a high functioning autistic [archive] who claims this makes him so disabled that he is unable to hold regular employment and must collect SSDI [archive] - his only visible means of financial support.

quote:

In short, Mardoll’s living consists of writing lovely stories about sexual minorities, autists and other handicapped people. Now, if you thought that was bad, check out her website’s comment policy:

“The comment threads here are actively moderated in order to maintain a safe space for readers.”

Yup, worth driving someone to suicide over

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Alaois posted:

what's your kiwifarms username
I don't have an account. I'm not white-knighting them or excusing things they've done. I'm just saying it's more subtle than some of you are acting. Yes they stalk and harass trans people, but they stalk and harass all kinds of people.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
they have a thread about a cis woman because they think she's a trans woman

if you actually read the threads there's like... no actual justification whatsoever, it's just "look at this sjw tranny dyke"

but yeah no they totally only go after people who deserve it and therefore it's okay and cool and poo poo

Casimir, you're a loving idiot

"they harass all kinds of people" and have a specific subforum just for LGBT people. nothing you've said makes a loving ounce of sense as a counterargument to pointing out that they specifically harass LGBT people, you're just a loving idiot

InediblePenguin has a new favorite as of 05:46 on Jan 4, 2017

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Casimir Radon posted:

I don't have an account. I'm not white-knighting them or excusing things they've done. I'm just saying it's more subtle than some of you are acting. Yes they stalk and harass trans people, but they stalk and harass all kinds of people.

Oh, so it's cool and good that they stalk and harass everybody "equally"

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
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Casimir Radon posted:

Aatrek was a pedophile, EVERYONE ON SA IS A PEDOPHILE AND I HEAR THEY EAT SWANS TOO!!

Dude, stop defending the scum, it makes it look like you're on the scum's side. Free tip from me to you.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
Wow I can't believe that lovely people who harass others for perceived slights would try and argue that they're totally not bigots because they actually hate everyone equally.

You could even say that they're equal-opportunity offenders. :jerkbag:

e. In the GBS Shmorky thread Casimir Radon is trying to harass Shmorky by drawing pictures of Klurfs killing themselves so obviously he's a totally sane and cool person on top of being an expert on when it's totally acceptable to doxx and harass people.

Guy Mann has a new favorite as of 06:10 on Jan 4, 2017

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


InediblePenguin posted:

no but see it's actually okay for them to specifically target LGBT people, because somebody knows a lesbian who doesn't know how to drive

:rolleyes:

E: what kind of massive idiot do you have to be to take the organized group of harassers at their word when they claim to only be harrassing people who deserve it?

That isn't what I said at all? But keep on keepin' on

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Casimir Radon posted:

I don't have an account. I'm not white-knighting them or excusing things they've done. I'm just saying it's more subtle than some of you are acting. Yes they stalk and harass trans people, but they stalk and harass all kinds of people.

Lol you are the same person who wrote the hour long effort post on fire I don't think I can trust your judgment

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Len posted:

That isn't what I said at all? But keep on keepin' on
you're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the organized group of harassers because they claim on the website that they only go after people who deserve it; you offer as an example of people you think they might go after, therefore people who would deserve to be group-harassed, a person you know of who is a lesbian whose offenses are "doesn't know how to drive" and "other people voluntarily give her expense money" -- the only thing you said is NOT okay is driving someone to suicide, therefore implying that if they were only harassing people like this non-driving lesbian with a patreon account, that WOULD be okay. You're not as big of an idiot as Casimir but you're not too loving bright, friend

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


InediblePenguin posted:

you're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the organized group of harassers because they claim on the website that they only go after people who deserve it; you offer as an example of people you think they might go after, therefore people who would deserve to be group-harassed, a person you know of who is a lesbian whose offenses are "doesn't know how to drive" and "other people voluntarily give her expense money" -- the only thing you said is NOT okay is driving someone to suicide, therefore implying that if they were only harassing people like this non-driving lesbian with a patreon account, that WOULD be okay. You're not as big of an idiot as Casimir but you're not too loving bright, friend

Haha no it isn't a Patreon account. It's literally just a PayPal account people send money to because she's got it so rough living at home and paying no bills, using her student loan money to buy iThings and drugs.

But I'm sorry I didn't say "everything they do since it drove someone to suicide is awful" I kind of figured that would be implied because that goes beyond macking fun of someone from a distancend crosses a line to actual real life fuckery which is never okay. :eyeroll:

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Whatever. I didn't think arguing that they'll harass anybody they can get a rise out of absolves them of their bigotry at all. I was just stating that they've created a platform to harass all kinds of people based on the whims of theor community. A lot of the people they do harass are LGBT people, enough that they made a subforum specifically for that. It's a toxic place end of subject.

Guy Mann posted:

e. In the GBS Shmorky thread Casimir Radon is trying to harass Shmorky by drawing pictures of Klurfs killing themselves so obviously he's a totally sane and cool person on top of being an expert on when it's totally acceptable to doxx and harass people.
Uhhh.... Shmorky drew that, I made a joke it. I've never had ant interactions with Shmorky. Does the honor of a pedophile mean so much to you?

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Lol you are the same person who wrote the hour long effort post on fire I don't think I can trust your judgment
Fire is a creepy pedophile that spent 10 years here before being chased off. There's a lot to tell.

Edit: I looked through the Rat King subforum and there's a lot of entries in there. So there is larger focus on harassing LGBT people than

Casimir Radon has a new favorite as of 06:39 on Jan 4, 2017

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Casimir Radon posted:

Whatever. I didn't think arguing that they'll harass anybody they can get a rise out of absolves them of their bigotry at all. I was just stating that they've created a platform to harass all kinds of people based on the whims of theor community. A lot of the people they do harass are LGBT people, enough that they made a subforum specifically for that. It's a toxic place end of subject.

Uhhh.... Shmorky drew that, I made a joke it. I've never had ant interactions with Shmorky. Does the honor of a pedophile mean so much to you?

Fire is a creepy pedophile that spent 10 years here before being chased off. There's a lot to tell.

Edit: I looked through the Rat King subforum and there's a lot of entries in there. So there is larger focus on harassing LGBT people than

holy poo poo did you seriously not even look at the forum before spending like three pages saying "NO GUYS THESE GUYS ARE FINE THOSE FUCKIN PERVS TOTALLY COAST ON BEIN FREAKS AND MUST BE EXPOSED"?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Tatum Girlparts posted:

holy poo poo did you seriously not even look at the forum before spending like three pages saying "NO GUYS THESE GUYS ARE FINE THOSE FUCKIN PERVS TOTALLY COAST ON BEIN FREAKS AND MUST BE EXPOSED"?
I didn't say they were fine, I said it was a toxic place. The equal opportunity offender label is, almost all of the time, something bigots use as an excuse. When describing the whole community it does kind of fit though since they've built it around stalking anyone that tickles the fancy of their members. Individual members may be bigots of whatever stripe, but the community as a whole just harasses anyone who rises to the bait. When I took a look at the subforum it did become apparent that there's a lot more gross poo poo in there than I thought, oops.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Casimir Radon posted:

I didn't say they were fine, I said it was a toxic place. The equal opportunity offender label is, almost all of the time, something bigots use as an excuse. When describing the whole community it does kind of fit though since they've built it around stalking anyone that tickles the fancy of their members. Individual members may be bigots of whatever stripe, but the community as a whole just harasses anyone who rises to the bait. When I took a look at the subforum it did become apparent that there's a lot more gross poo poo in there than I thought, oops.

I would consider that evidence that you're just not much of a thinker.

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

Len posted:

Haha no it isn't a Patreon account. It's literally just a PayPal account people send money to because she's got it so rough living at home and paying no bills, using her student loan money to buy iThings and drugs.



And get this...She's a lesbian!


Which is relevant because....

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Casimir Radon posted:

the community as a whole just harasses

This is a bad thing

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler
The BYOB reggae thread was p cool

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2347057

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


How in the heck did the stairs thing start on SA? I've been reading this website since I was in high school and I just realized I don't know the story behind that. Sorry if it's been covered.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


The Saddest Rhino posted:

This is a bad thing
Yes, I recognize that.

A Spider Covets posted:

How in the heck did the stairs thing start on SA? I've been reading this website since I was in high school and I just realized I don't know the story behind that. Sorry if it's been covered.
The Terrible Secret of Space

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


slinkimalinki posted:

And get this...She's a lesbian!


Which is relevant because....

Because she uses that as part of her woe is me schtick?

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Reggae is cool

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Casimir Radon posted:

I didn't say they were fine, I said it was a toxic place. The equal opportunity offender label is, almost all of the time, something bigots use as an excuse. When describing the whole community it does kind of fit though since they've built it around stalking anyone that tickles the fancy of their members. Individual members may be bigots of whatever stripe, but the community as a whole just harasses anyone who rises to the bait. When I took a look at the subforum it did become apparent that there's a lot more gross poo poo in there than I thought, oops.

there is something wrong with your brain

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Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Len posted:

Because she uses that as part of her woe is me schtick?

why do you care if people want to throw their money away?

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