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Zo posted:countdown to a worse expansion than antibirth lol
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The games over reliance on lovely rooms to make up challenge is in full swing in this expansion, some utterly horrendous poo poo so far and those wormholes can eat a giant pile of dicks. Antibirth just makes this lovely expansion look even worse, that's how you do new bosses or alter existing ones, not this crap.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:03
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I like how in the Womb in Greedier enemies constantly spawn in at 1 and 2 seconds, giving you no time to fight everything and hope to god you have enough hp to withstand it
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Jan 4, 2017 05:04
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FPzero posted:And yet the Pong challenge is super easy to clear as long as you're careful with your shots. Man, I've only played a little of the new dlc so far but it feels like a major step back from Afterbirth normal's balance. Heck, maybe its just me, but Afterbirth felt like a bit of a step back from Rebirth too.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:06
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So if I'm looking to get back into Isaac, just go with Antibirth instead? Afterbirth+ is really sounding worse than how Afterbirth was balanced when it first launched.The Bee posted:Heck, maybe its just me, but Afterbirth felt like a bit of a step back from Rebirth too. Remember that Afterbirth had a ton of balance issues at launch too, as well as missing a ton of items because lol Nicalis.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:07
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So here's a fun synergy, Diplopia works with Void. Or at least it did until I used it so many times that at some point it decided to stop working.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:09
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It keeps crashing randomly in rooms and I don't know why.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:10
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It's a real joke compared to Antibirth. The new character feels super lazy and poo poo like the stone fatties makes me never want to bother with Greedier mode. The new enemies seem to include a lot of health sponges, like the spiders that poo poo the smoke balls and spawn a nest upon death because gently caress you. Then poo poo like the portals where an unlucky spawn can turbo gently caress you and make a room last forever.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:12
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These enemy spawning void things are some serious bullshit. Sigh.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:12
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I set off the mama bomb or whatever its called in the shop area of greedier mode, it opened up what looked like the boss rush door, I tried to go in and the game crashed. 
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Jan 4, 2017 05:15
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Lol this Mama Mega item. Wtf is it doing?! /\/\/\ lol It keeps randomly exploding when I enter rooms
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Jan 4, 2017 05:15
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yea the "new character" is just a new item, and greedier mode is literally just one extra boss fight as far as i can tell well and making the timers shorter which takes like 5 seconds to change this expansion is incredibly mediocre but it only cost 5 bucks so whatever, looking forward to more mods
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Jan 4, 2017 05:16
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the popular kids posted:Lol this Mama Mega item. Wtf is it doing?! Bombs the entire floor apparently. Edit: And little horn just spawned with big horn. 
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Jan 4, 2017 05:16
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I just keep crashing, constantly, can't play. Ugh. At this rate I should wait for them to mod in Antibirth and then let modding refine the game to something playable over the next 3 years. Nicalis is so shoddy.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:20
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The wormholes seem like a bad addition to the game both mechanically and aesthetically. Just kind of a lazy idea, honestly.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:20
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Daeren posted:Boss spoilers: Vis Sisters are horseshit.  Depths 1. Both can do this at the same time. Also, you remember how one of the most consistent complaints about Binding of Isaac has been unavoidable damage?  How about unavoidable damage you can't see coming?
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Jan 4, 2017 05:24
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Oh also if it hasn't been mentioned yet, take the slog out of attempting Bassackwards and just exit to the main menu and resume your game to skip the first boss fight. Not sure if every boss in the April's Fools challenge being the same boss is intended or not, but it makes for a really annoying 1-1 fight and then just a boring fight every other floor.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:27
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It is avoidable (the spikes pop out before you hit the chest) but it does suck because you have to waste your time slowing down to check.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:28
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Did they at least at new pills effects to make the drat things worthwhile again?
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Jan 4, 2017 05:28
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Geight posted:Oh also if it hasn't been mentioned yet, take the slog out of attempting Bassackwards and just exit to the main menu and resume your game to skip the first boss fight. It is intended.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:31
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It is avoidable (the spikes pop out before you hit the chest) but it does suck because you have to waste your time slowing down to check. In that gif, how do you get past that chest without flying, even if you see the spikes before you touch it?
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Jan 4, 2017 05:31
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Daeren posted:How about unavoidable damage you can't see coming? As far as I can tell, you can slowly move towards the chest and it will reveal itself as a chest with spikes. It's still annoying as hell though, and often it's just instinct to instantly go for the chest. It's things like that, Lost, Keeper, and the general slog of the first few floors that has burned me out on this game. I love so many things about BoI and have put so many hours into it throughout the years but it feels like the developers watch guys that have 5000 hours in the game like Cobaltstreak and base all their design decisions on those types of players. I'd actually be fine with most of it if they just significantly increased the base damage of all the characters. The first half of the game is boring and only really becomes fun when you have a nice collection of damage items.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:35
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Alteisen posted:It is intended. That's awful, but at least better than the challenge being broken. gently caress that boss.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:35
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Delirium seems like "minimal artwork: the boss"
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Jan 4, 2017 05:44
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Champion brownie that spawns multiple of those dark blue worms then dies into 4 of those charging black poops that turn into something else upon death.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:44
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The Bee posted:Heck, maybe its just me, but Afterbirth felt like a bit of a step back from Rebirth too. I didn't play Afterbirth when it launched, instead only getting it as a gift from a friend back this summer so I can't speak to how it was at the beginning. Having played it a bunch by now, I feel generally comfortable with most of the game's content and balance. Exceptions include Bloat, Adversary's curving laser, Rag Man's 1st floor appearances, and Ultra Greed/Hush's damage cap (note: I don't know if any of these where in vanilla Rebirth and not Afterbirth only. Afterbirth+ on the other hand... The portals feel really cheap and need some major balancing to them. Either they should be rarer, not come in pairs, have a maximum cap on the number of enemies it spawns total (not just a cap on how many enemies from one portal will be on the field at once), not have other enemies in the room with them, or have a decreased enemy spawn rate. Any combination of those five would go a long way to making them less cheap. Mega Horn is the only new boss I've encountered so far but he seems like he was placed way too early on for players. I can see the Stone Fatties becoming really annoying really fast, especially because they also move super quickly and block shots. Then there's all the stuff I haven't personally encountered yet that everyone else is describing that just makes it sound like the difficulty balance went totally out the window here. It's a shame really. Binding of Isaac is a really fun game. If some of these things don't get addressed by balancing, maybe I'll have to play without the + DLC 
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Jan 4, 2017 05:48
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Welp, I got Real Platinum God in Rebirth and 1001% in Afterbirth. After reading this thread, thanks for saving me money, victims of Afterbirth+.
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Jan 4, 2017 05:55
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Daeren posted:
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Jan 4, 2017 05:57
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Daeren posted:
Okay, the chests are annoying but I can live with them as dumb as they are. I'm glad to get confirmation about them at least because I ran into them a few times and was wondering if I was going crazy. But, holy poo poo Edmund, how can that loving attack be considered fair in any capacity?
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Jan 4, 2017 06:04
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I mean krampus already has an attack which can be literally undodgable if he's at the right spot in the room and it rotates in the right direction, so what the gently caress else is new
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Jan 4, 2017 06:15
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IronicDongz posted:I mean krampus already has an attack which can be literally undodgable if he's at the right spot in the room and it rotates in the right direction, so what the gently caress else is new Don't forget tiny room krampus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amwqrSXYWgw This was the first lost run I ever did.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:18
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"Hmm. I know. I'll make an item that creates chain lightning between enemies. It's super cool and fun! But wait, can't have too much fun in a single player game... aha! I'll make it randomly hurt you if you hold the fire button down too long! That way no one will ever use this awesome new item more than the time it gets them killed!" Seriously, what the gently caress. That item was rad until I realized I was nuking the poo poo out of myself. That thing needs Book of Shadows with a one-room charge to function properly, I think. I sure hope the community salvages this because outside of a few fun Challenges and one really shite one, I'm not feelin' it anymore.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:20
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Overall this update is pretty god awful and I honestly have no drive to even bother playing it. There's so much trash in the item pools now runs are so slow and boring that it makes FFT battles seem fast paced. The new enemies are complete trash and the new bosses I've run across are such uninspired poo poo that I just want someone to make a WotL mod so I can forget all this garbage Edmund has shoved down the game's throat and go back to when Isaac was actually a fun game. Maybe a "gently caress Edmund and his Cagey Bloat" balance mod too. Why is it that every single release after the previous he takes every mechanic everyone hated the most and shits it all over the game? Compared to antibirth absolutely none of the new bosses feel inspiring at all and are just quick hack jobs to pretend it's new content. Take the Dia Sisters or whatever - they're literally just two Cages, one or both can be champions with a lovely brimstone mechanic on it. Nevermind that the osx version's release comes with this stupid pile of trash for release notes: code: Much better.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:30
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ChibiSoma posted:I sure hope the community salvages this because outside of a few fun Challenges and one really shite one, I'm not feelin' it anymore. I know it was only $7 but this expansion doesn't even feel worth that. Did a couple of runs and watched some streams and just refunded that poo poo.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:30
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So you can suck up the Polaroid and the Negative with Void, it will stop your run at Sheol or the Cathedral  I expected such behavior, but just wanted to see.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:31
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I already knew that their "vision" of the game was something entirely different from what I enjoy about it... but somehow I'm still a bit disappointed. What's your favorite new room? Mine has to be the small room with like 6 full grown Blastocysts. Completely unavoidable damage until they're all dead! For added fun, I had Death's Touch so after all of them split twice they literally filled the entire room. e: or maybe the room in Basement I with a portal that's inside a rock formation. To hit it you need to go inside the formation and shoot at it (which means it also spawns enemies directly on top of you). Literal run-ender for Judas, etc. on Basement friggin 1 
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Jan 4, 2017 06:31
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Did drop rates on the chest get hosed with? I explored the whole thing and only got consumables for clearing rooms, no chests at all with 1.0 luck. Thought it was probably variance but the same thing happened to NL on stream and then i got suspicious 
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Jan 4, 2017 06:38
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sounds like edmund has been playing nuclear throne there are plenty of times where you will spawn in a room and be killed VVVVVVV Relin fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Jan 4, 2017 06:40
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nuclear throne is 100% fair though
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Jan 4, 2017 06:42
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Well, after a small amount of play, I'm not sure if I like this game anymore. Just ... too far in all the wrong directions, which is weird for me to say because I loved the way I'd get lost in the item pool and learn over time, and get better at the play mechanics. Kinda like fried butter at this point.
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Jan 4, 2017 06:49
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