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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Gonna warranty replace my phone due to cracks - is there an easy way just verbatim copy the image? It's unrooted.

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EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



uPen posted:

Mine booted to the same screen. You couldn't actually do anything from there except look at the options that don't do anything.

Technically that is the Bootloader screen so from there you should be able to push official images using ADB if that part of the phone still works. Bootloader unlocking would make it even easier to try and get out of a Bootloop situation if you cared to take a wack at it yourself among other Android tweakable things.

Backing up the phone can possibly be done with adb backup, however I have never seen it actually work on any device I have tried it on personally. :/

TWRP backup works for those that push that as your recovery on compatible devices, but I have been using Titanium Backup to just backup my App Data between flash/wipes and different phones for the past few years. The one downside is it does require root. Any non root app backup tool seems to be super limited still. Why that is still the case with Android is beyond me and why no all apps have a sort of cloud backup at this point in time... Ugh

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
i revived my incredibly hosed up, cracked to poo poo nexus 4 i haven't touched since 2014 since it like actually works as a phone

how much pain will i suffer if i downgrade 4.1 to get paranoid android with tablet UI because that was definitely the best gimmick ever and i was probably the only person who was sad they axed tablet ui and i have never owned a tablet. time for a throwback

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



bull3964 posted:

We have a winner.

Fi is a side project like Fiber which is going to wither on the vine.

Apparently, Fiber is already dead.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12792928

https://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2016/10/advancing-our-amazing-bet.html

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Fi is probably what they'll be rolling the "internet for everyone everywhere" plan into with wireless devices being as common as they are.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
The beautiful thing is going to be when some bright spark lobbyist finds out he can blackmail the public into supporting killing Net Neutrality by saying it'll help the fight against ~fake news~ by prioritizing *genuine* content only, and won't you call or write your congressman and...

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

MikeJF posted:

Gonna warranty replace my phone due to cracks - is there an easy way just verbatim copy the image? It's unrooted.

Nope.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

MikeJF posted:

Gonna warranty replace my phone due to cracks - is there an easy way just verbatim copy the image? It's unrooted.
ADB can backup all of your apps and data but it's command-line based:
code:
adb backup -apk -shared -all -f path\to\save\file.ab
Be careful restoring this if you're not on the exact same OS version as it includes data for system apps.

MeKeV
Aug 10, 2010

MeKeV posted:

Seems the charger on my wife's 2 week old pixel has given up on working? Googling doesn't seem to show this as a common/known issue but absolutely nothing out of the ordinary has happened with it prior to it no longer working.

It's the only one we have until my pixel arrives in a day or two, so I've had to stick the usb-a to C cable that came with it in to another charger to at least keep the phone going.

Returning the whole phone for just a defective charger will be a massive pain in the bum but I'm guessing that's what we'd have to do? But ~£30 for a replacement official charger is a bit much to just ignore it!

Got the store to switch it out for a plug off a display model. They'd not come across it at all before though.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



nigga crab pollock posted:

i revived my incredibly hosed up, cracked to poo poo nexus 4 i haven't touched since 2014 since it like actually works as a phone

how much pain will i suffer if i downgrade 4.1 to get paranoid android with tablet UI because that was definitely the best gimmick ever and i was probably the only person who was sad they axed tablet ui and i have never owned a tablet. time for a throwback

This is incredibly hosed up and you might be a broken human being.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

I recently switched back to Android from iPhone and I'm using my old Moto X Pure on Verizon. I'm thinking about picking up something used on Swappa to replace the MXP. My shortlist consists of the HTC 10, Axon 7 and possibly the 6p

Right now, I'm leaning towards the HTC 10.

Is there any reason to go with the Axon 7 or 6p instead?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

So all of a sudden when I'm using headphones with my device and listening to music or podcasts, the volume will jump really high then drop down then jump back high after about 15 minutes. This is a new issue that started today.

nocal
Mar 7, 2007

FAUXTON posted:

Fi is probably what they'll be rolling the "internet for everyone everywhere" plan into with wireless devices being as common as they are.

I honestly think that digging cables into the ground is in the past, and the future is wireless. I noticed that tethering my phone to my laptop is about as fast as my low-tier cable internet, and I know in many areas it isn't cost effective to lay cable.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I'm having a really annoying problem with my car bluetooth and can't figure it out. If I try "OK Google" when connected, it prompts to unlock my phone. It only proceeds with the search prompt, and doesn't prompt to unlock, when I enable the option for Trusted Voice which I'd rather not do. These are my settings:

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe
Can you add your car's bluetooth as a trusted device to keep the phone unlocked?

Hydrocodone
Sep 26, 2007

I'm considering a Pixel and just want to assure myself that the "some users report" issues I'm reading about are things Forbes writers found 1-2 tweets for and nothing more. Are there any reasons the goon hivemind wouldn't recommend one (apart from the price)?

If it helps stereotype me, I've had an original Galaxy Nexus and now have an HTC One M8. The Galaxy Nexus was good for a year and I dealt with it alright for a second year as it grew slower and slower. The One M8 I've loved for most of its life and still think it runs well now, but it's regularly losing contact with its SIM card.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



nocal posted:

I honestly think that digging cables into the ground is in the past, and the future is wireless. I noticed that tethering my phone to my laptop is about as fast as my low-tier cable internet, and I know in many areas it isn't cost effective to lay cable.

Considering Wave says it cost $20,000 to run a cable on 5 telephone poles to 4 houses up a private road, even above ground is dead.


And that's why I am on a Microwave Antenna based Internet now.

The scary part is until competition comes to this market, its a flashback to DSL in the early 2000's. The company that I got this Internet from, just merged with another bigger one that seems to have bought up almost all the smaller Wireless ISP's in the area. Their plans are worse and cost $20+ more each and if they try to change my plan in the future I am screwed considering my current $69/m plan is 12/6 with no data cap and the closestish one they have is 11-15/2-3 for $99/m with no cap still, but even the tier above it is limited to a max of 3mbit upload which sucks.

There are no other options in my area and 3mbit DSL is the max we can get otherwise. Ugh. Hopefully Wireless Internet can grow fast and some actual competition can happen before it becomes just another monopoly game.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




sirbeefalot posted:

Can you add your car's bluetooth as a trusted device to keep the phone unlocked?

I guess I could. I don't use any trusted devices/smart lock things because I'd rather keep my phone a bit more secure seeing how easy it is to unlock with the fingerprint scanner. But yeah, I think my car bluetooth would be safe in that case.

Kind of an annoying issue though, because my assumption based on the available options is that "Allow requests with device locked for Bluetooth devices" would fix this, but that option flatout doesn't work.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Elon Musk will corner the market with his satellite internet :colbert:

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Hydrocodone posted:

I'm considering a Pixel and just want to assure myself that the "some users report" issues I'm reading about are things Forbes writers found 1-2 tweets for and nothing more. Are there any reasons the goon hivemind wouldn't recommend one (apart from the price)?

If it helps stereotype me, I've had an original Galaxy Nexus and now have an HTC One M8. The Galaxy Nexus was good for a year and I dealt with it alright for a second year as it grew slower and slower. The One M8 I've loved for most of its life and still think it runs well now, but it's regularly losing contact with its SIM card.

Mine went into a bootloop yesterday for about 10 minutes and then mysteriously came back to life. Other than that one glitch it's been my favorite phone and I get new ones like every 3-4 months.

thebushcommander
Apr 16, 2004
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Hydrocodone posted:

I'm considering a Pixel and just want to assure myself that the "some users report" issues I'm reading about are things Forbes writers found 1-2 tweets for and nothing more. Are there any reasons the goon hivemind wouldn't recommend one (apart from the price)?

If it helps stereotype me, I've had an original Galaxy Nexus and now have an HTC One M8. The Galaxy Nexus was good for a year and I dealt with it alright for a second year as it grew slower and slower. The One M8 I've loved for most of its life and still think it runs well now, but it's regularly losing contact with its SIM card.

You say Forbes writer as if it means anything, 95% of the articles on Forbes.com are from independent blogs that submit things to forbes and it seems they are pretty lenient with what is posted. None of them actually work for Forbes. That said the Pixel is great and you're right, most posts about issues are a little overboard. Most of the ones I've seen would suggest it's a widespread issue given the title, but then you realize they posted it based on 1 user from reddit that doesn't really know how to use Android

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



PerrineClostermann posted:

Elon Musk will corner the market with his satellite internet :colbert:

He'll make reviewers compare it to 3G wireless so it is best in class rather than being a turd compared to the things it should actually be compared to.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



JayKay posted:

I recently switched back to Android from iPhone and I'm using my old Moto X Pure on Verizon. I'm thinking about picking up something used on Swappa to replace the MXP. My shortlist consists of the HTC 10, Axon 7 and possibly the 6p

Right now, I'm leaning towards the HTC 10.

Is there any reason to go with the Axon 7 or 6p instead?

They are all great phones. The HTC 10 has a fantastic build, performance, camera, and headphone amp and is comfortable being a smaller device. The 6P is on an older CPU but has a nice big AMOLED 1440P screen, dual front facing speakers, nice if a bit slow camera, build feels great but the metal is softer than the 10's and has a terrible headphone port but being a Nexus you can do all the tinkering and custom rom stuff you desire (if you are interested in that or tinkering with android at all) the HTC 10 is a bit harder to do stuff like that but is still possible with a little effort/research. The 6P also has guaranteed updates for at least another year where HTC might still as well with the 10, but being another OEM, it still might take a bit longer to get them out.

The Axon 7 is fantastic if you are on a carrier that support it, great reviews from the few that own one here and it looks fantastic, however not sure of its longterm support vs the other two but for the price, might be worth the shot.

Either way you can't go wrong with any of them as they all have strengths/weaknesses.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

Hydrocodone posted:

I'm considering a Pixel and just want to assure myself that the "some users report" issues I'm reading about are things Forbes writers found 1-2 tweets for and nothing more. Are there any reasons the goon hivemind wouldn't recommend one (apart from the price)?

If it helps stereotype me, I've had an original Galaxy Nexus and now have an HTC One M8. The Galaxy Nexus was good for a year and I dealt with it alright for a second year as it grew slower and slower. The One M8 I've loved for most of its life and still think it runs well now, but it's regularly losing contact with its SIM card.

I went from a One M8 to a Pixel. You will miss the speakers, and the manual mode camera (but the auto mode is fantastic). Everything else feels so fast and better in every way. The last Android they put on the M8 (Lollipop?) made it mostly stock anyway, so it's an easy transition.

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

I got the boot loop issue on my 5x. Google is apparently extending out warranties as my phone was a couple weeks past its warranty, but the google service rep said they're sending me a new phone anyway. I think I'm still going to go buy a iPhone and hold onto my 5x as a back up.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

nocal posted:

I honestly think that digging cables into the ground is in the past, and the future is wireless. I noticed that tethering my phone to my laptop is about as fast as my low-tier cable internet, and I know in many areas it isn't cost effective to lay cable.

Nope. Bear in mind wireless frequencies are a shared resource. The more people use it the slower it gets for everyone. Wired is always going to mean higher bandwidth.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Lol @ wireless is the future. You gotta be out of your mind if you think wireless technology will advance to the point where it's not a horrible mess

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



The Duggler posted:

Lol @ wireless is the future. You gotta be out of your mind if you think wireless technology will advance to the point where it's not a horrible mess

Uhhh i hate to break it to you...

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

vyst posted:

Uhhh i hate to break it to you...

Go on

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Optimus Subprime posted:

I got the boot loop issue on my 5x. Google is apparently extending out warranties as my phone was a couple weeks past its warranty, but the google service rep said they're sending me a new phone anyway. I think I'm still going to go buy a iPhone and hold onto my 5x as a back up.

My 6p was 2 months out of warranty and they didn't even mention it, just overnighted me a new phone.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007





Mobile computing is the future. Mobile computing is wireless. You're wrong. Sorry.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

CLAM DOWN posted:

Mobile computing is the future. Mobile computing is wireless. You're wrong. Sorry.

The future of what?

Wifi sucks and will always suck. Will never come close to a wire running between two points

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

The Duggler posted:

The future of what?

Wifi sucks and will always suck. Will never come close to a wire running between two points

Wifi's generally at least fine for me. Sure, it won't beat a wired connection, at least not any time soon, but it doesn't necessarily suck always.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

The Duggler is right, wireless has its uses but the idea that it's the future for everyone is laughable. The only places wireless as a last-mile solution is viable is in rural areas that aren't spectrum-constrained and, like everything in those areas, it will be poorly implemented, regulated, deployed, and available. Anywhere there's a high population density, wireless as a last-mile solution would be a total shitshow (think local cells at a stadium during a sporting event) and the high density makes last-mile wireline deployment cheaper and easier.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



The Duggler posted:

The future of what?

Wifi sucks and will always suck. Will never come close to a wire running between two points

WiFi and wireless as an infrastructure are two different concepts

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


LastInLine posted:

The Duggler is right, wireless has its uses but the idea that it's the future for everyone is laughable.

Doesn't matter. Wireless means less infrastructure to support so the telcos are going to push it. Verizon is already letting copper infrastructure degrade and forcing people to wireless

ATT has already said that they are going to trial their 5g networks through DirecTV Now. http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/04/technology/att-5g-directv/

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The pre-Lib government plan Australia had going where they were going to rip out all the copper in the country, replace every bit of it with fibre, and rent the fibre out to ISPs is by far the best approach. Unfortunately a change of government trashed it and it's far too socialist an idea for America to consider.

Hell, if it was done cooperatively it'd probably be cheaper in the long run than constantly changing out and maintaining wireless tech, but Telcos aren't that long-sighted.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jan 5, 2017

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Is there any way to keep my Pixel and Google Home from trying to answer the same request simultaneously? I have "OK Google" shut off on the Pixel for now, but it'd be nice to be able to keep it on for when I'm not home.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

bull3964 posted:

Doesn't matter. Wireless means less infrastructure to support so the telcos are going to push it. Verizon is already letting copper infrastructure degrade and forcing people to wireless.

They're doing this to escape telephone landline regulation, not for technical reasons, and we're talking about broadband internet access, not telephony. Verizon isn't replacing coax broadband cables or FTTN/FTTP lines with LTE boxes. Two completely different things.

One could make the argument that we've already abandoned wired service for voice communication.

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DemonMage
Oct 14, 2004



What happens in the course of duty is up to you...

azurite posted:

Is there any way to keep my Pixel and Google Home from trying to answer the same request simultaneously?

Use "Hey Google" for the Home instead is the best option I think.

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