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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:I dont "get" Los Ingobernables, but they seem super popular Well it's something I had to look up too but especially Naito the entire ethos of them, Tranquilo, is not just antithesis to the fighting spirit of puro but it's acting as a criticism of Japanese culture and custom. In Japan your life is to be a salaryman and to work forever for your goals and to always give 100% in your passion. LIG are the exact opposite of that and are rebels against it, via nothing but dispassionate calm and taking their own time working for themselves so they appeal to the young Japanese who hate the system that was raised to work them to death.
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Lid posted:Well it's something I had to look up too but especially Naito the entire ethos of them, Tranquilo, is not just antithesis to the fighting spirit of puro but it's acting as a criticism of Japanese culture and custom. In Japan your life is to be a salaryman and to work forever for your goals and to always give 100% in your passion. LIG are the exact opposite of that and are rebels against it, via nothing but dispassionate calm and taking their own time working for themselves so they appeal to the young Japanese who hate the system that was raised to work them to death. also Naito throws belts
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Lid posted:Well it's something I had to look up too but especially Naito the entire ethos of them, Tranquilo, is not just antithesis to the fighting spirit of puro but it's acting as a criticism of Japanese culture and custom. In Japan your life is to be a salaryman and to work forever for your goals and to always give 100% in your passion. LIG are the exact opposite of that and are rebels against it, via nothing but dispassionate calm and taking their own time working for themselves so they appeal to the young Japanese who hate the system that was raised to work them to death. Huh, never heard that before. Makes a lot of sense.
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Lid posted:What? NEVER was second only to the main. IC title was the best match, followed by the main
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Hace posted:IC title was the best match, followed by the main u r rong
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Hace posted:IC title was the best match, followed by the main  but the other way round
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Lid posted:u r rong i've never been more correct
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St Evan Echoes posted:
i liked the main but it was mostly a spot show by the end. the ic match had some real nice psychology imo.
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Lid posted:Well it's something I had to look up too but especially Naito the entire ethos of them, Tranquilo, is not just antithesis to the fighting spirit of puro but it's acting as a criticism of Japanese culture and custom. In Japan your life is to be a salaryman and to work forever for your goals and to always give 100% in your passion. LIG are the exact opposite of that and are rebels against it, via nothing but dispassionate calm and taking their own time working for themselves so they appeal to the young Japanese who hate the system that was raised to work them to death. Hmm I'll take the one with the Too Sweets and the Suck Its
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The junior heavyweight, NEVER and IC matches were all equally incredible in their own right. Okada/Omega was better than all of them though. Anyway. Apart from Cole (b/c O'Reilly's leaving ROH) and Cody (b/c it was his first match in the company I guess), Bullet Club was pretty much buried tonight. I mean, The Elite are in a good position here since RPG Vice didn't win clean and Omega was booked incredibly strongly tonight, but the Bullet Club as a whole was buried in favour of LIJ and Chaos. I hope this means The Elite are going to split off from the rest of the Bullet Club and leave Cody to take over the reigns, where they'll become an eternal lower-midcard act and The Elite will soar into perpetual main event glory. Omega is owed a match for Naito's IC title since he won against him in the G1 last year, so I'm pretty sure he's going to go for that. Cody is probably going to go for Elgin because he's going to tick off every name on his lovely little list, and then he might go for Goto or something, I dunno. Shibata's probably going to go for the HC next since he doesn't have to worry about the NEVER title anymore, so he can aim for bigger things. The Bucks...well, they'll probably get a rematch. NJPW's in a great position going forward. e: https://twitter.com/wc_n7/status/816628584764833792 Ah. It's probably Cody/Shibata and Naito/Elgin going forward then. So who's going to challenge Okada and Omega? e2: Tanahashi's probably going to get his win back over Kenny, isn't he? Bugger. Venomous fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Lid posted:What? NEVER was second only to the main. can't fairly rate main (just watched it on archives) but to me the NEVER was an excellent match but was exactly what I expected. Didn't know what the jr match was gonna be or if it was gonna be marred by bullshit but it ended up being the best jr match in that company i've seen in quite some time.
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Starting my awake watching. The Battle Royale is fun as hell. I can see why they do it as it's a great way to get the crowd in a happy mode. Also a great way to use older guys. Is Corino meant to be a heel commentator?
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harperdc posted:
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Venomous posted:e2: Tanahashi's probably going to get his win back over Kenny, isn't he? Bugger. What is Tanahashi's role going to be going forward, I wonder? Everybody loves him and still he puts on great matches, but he's also a 40 year old wrestler in a promotion that clearly doesn't need to recycle past champs.
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sean10mm posted:What is Tanahashi's role going to be going forward, I wonder? Everybody loves him and still he puts on great matches, but he's also a 40 year old wrestler in a promotion that clearly doesn't need to recycle past champs. He's also the John Cena of New Japan though. He'll be there until his body gives out on him. e: I just realised. Kushida probably isn't going for the Junior Heavyweight title again. I'm guessing he'll have the first shot at Okada at The New Beginning before he loses and goes for Naito. (Probably still Naito, yeah.) Venomous fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Suplex Liberace posted:not as good as the old one. GOAT rear end
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I just watched it. The last 3 matches were insane. I don't know how everyone isn't dead.
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BWV posted:I just watched it. The last 3 matches were insane. I don't know how everyone isn't dead. I died several times watching.
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I went right from the main event to work. Life is hell atm.
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harperdc posted:how was Tanahashi's new theme? Not High Energy in every sense.
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That was probably the best final four matches back to back I've ever seen closing a show They got me loving a Goto match, gently caress
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Show was super long and super worth it. I probably will at some point but I cannot think of a better match than that main-event and it followed 3 already 4-5 star matches. Like seriously if there's only gonna be one wrestling show you see all year, make sure it's this! The worst part of the show to me is realizing how much WWE is squandering Nakamura right now and I have no hope they're ever going to do him right. It is about to be Mania season so maybe he'll finally get the call up but god drat. So yeah, if nothing else people, you gotta see this main event. All time classic imo.
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I'm feeling a Rumble call up for Nakamura, and have for quite some time. If that doesn't happen, then yeah, that's some bullshit. But who cares about that right now? We managed to get through a 5 1/2 hour show (counting the Rumble) that didn't really have a stinker on it, and that's fantastic! (Closest to a stinker I can think of is probably the Heavyweight 3 way tag, or the CHAOS portion of the trios gauntlet). The Okada/Omega match had some of the most tension I've ever felt in a wrestling match, period. I'd have to go back to Tanahashi/Okada IV to come close. And the previous 3 matches would be MOTN on any other card. God drat that was a good show.
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If Triple H is serious about having NXT folks mingle with main roster folks, then he'd pull the trigger on a Rollins run-in at Takeover, which in turn would lead to Nakamura eliminating Rollins from the Rumble, which would lead to a match between Rollins and Nakamura at Fastlane, which would culminate in Rollins/Triple H at Wrestlemania. e: I must reiterate: this was quite possibly the best show ever, and the Rumble won't be anywhere near as good as this entire show.
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Venomous posted:If Triple H is serious about having NXT folks mingle with main roster folks, then he'd pull the trigger on a Rollins run-in at Takeover, which in turn would lead to Nakamura eliminating Rollins from the Rumble, which would lead to a match between Rollins and Nakamura at Fastlane, which would culminate in Rollins/Triple H at Wrestlemania. whats the storyline justification for any of this
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oatgan posted:whats the storyline justification for any of this idfk, I don't watch Raw, I just know that Seth is supposed to be feuding with Triple H rn e: I mean I guess the justification is that Nakamura was given all his opportunities in NXT by Triple H and so he's gonna work heel against Rollins b/c he disrespected Triple H? I dunno, I just know they need to get Nakamura feuding with main roster folks somehow. Venomous fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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