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the league is good and cool right now and making the cavs give up lil kev or the warriors give up klay doesnt actually make games more fun to watch
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big boi posted:then why yell obnoxiously as if you aren't if a team has the best player(s) on the court/field/rink/etc they are more likely to win as long as the team is decently constructed. the idea that the nba is unique in this because of the two way nature of the sport is rather dumb and thinking it is an issue because of the illusion of parity annoys me greatly
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got some chores tonight posted:the league is good and cool right now and making the cavs give up lil kev or the warriors give up klay doesnt actually make games more fun to watch i hate the warriors just like i hated the heat when lebron was there and it makes it more dramatic and intriguing to watch i grew up watching jordan and the 72-10 team is my favorite team of all time and watching cleveland beat GSW in such an awesome fashion was probably one of the greatest sports moments i have ever seen.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:27
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got some chores tonight posted:the league is good and cool right now and making the cavs give up lil kev or the warriors give up klay doesnt actually make games more fun to watch The NBA is way more boring this year because of the Warriors. Talent being spread out makes more games watchable. There are more than two teams in the league.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:27
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Considering how weak the Warrior's schedule has been and the fact that they've lost most of their challenging games doesn't really make me feel like the talent is too concentrated with them. If they were blowing the Cavs and Spurs out every night I'd feel like maybe they were bad for the league but the Warriors are supposed to make bad teams look worse.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:34
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I think the NBA is pretty great this year except for my team which I hate
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Jan 4, 2017 23:35
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Space Camp fuckup posted:I think the NBA is pretty great this year except for my team which I hate
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Jan 4, 2017 23:37
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Random thought of the day but If I have have kids and they seem like they could be really good at sports I'm going to give them the nickname "Boo" so that if they get boo'd they are actually getting cheered.
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Metapod posted:if a team has the best player(s) on the court/field/rink/etc they are more likely to win as long as the team is decently constructed. the idea that the nba is unique in this because of the two way nature of the sport is rather dumb and thinking it is an issue because of the illusion of parity annoys me greatly I think you're missing the point, which is that while every league is superstar-driven to the extent that the teams with more stars are more likely to win, the NBA is so superstar-driven (because of disproportionately high usage rates, etc, as other people have brought up) that bad teams are basically hosed until they luck into a top 10 player. Edit: I actually think the NBA is great right now, but teams like Charlotte (and even Boston with IT's insane season) are pretty clearly hosed as regards a championship. big boi fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Jan 4, 2017 23:39
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Even if the Warriors all suddenly retired tomorrow, half the league is still boring because the East doesn't matter until lebron retires
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Jan 4, 2017 23:42
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Just don't watch the Warriors unless they're about to lose. It's more fun that way. Otherwise just watch cool young teams and dream of what they could become or hate watch your own crappy team or whatever.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:48
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Also for every super team there's a team of non-top 10 players that almost beats them that people generally seem to forget about. And then sometimes the Pistons happen.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:59
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Are the cavs big three really questionable or is this a sly way to give them rest without saying that?
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At the start of the 2014-2015 season the Warriors were tied with the 6th best vegas odds as the title favorites at 16-1. They are only retroactively considered a no-brainer because they had several players (including Curry) take a pretty big leap. Before the championship season I don't think anyone considered Steph Curry a generational player. I think the logic here is circular. You are considered a generational talent when you make your team successful, then people turn around and say only teams with generational talents are successful. It's a chicken and the egg argument, but the reality is you don't need to look that far back at all to find a Champion that few people predicted.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:08
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The league is great this year because Embiid is playing.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:08
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Add a loser's bracket to the playoffs where non-Lebron/Warriors/Spurs teams that made the playoffs can compete for a different trophy and it's understood they're the third place team.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:17
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Shear Modulus posted:A thing that I've heard people complain about w/r/t NBA parity is the relatively recent phenomenon of free-agency-constructed superteams where multiple stars take deals below their value like the LeBron Heat and the Light Years Ahead Warriors. Of course the solution to that is pretty obvious (getting rid of max contracts or substantially increasing their dollar amount). As opposed to superstar-trade-constructed superteams because small market teams had so little power to retain their guys? Or back in the day when contracts basically never expired and teams were struggling to make money so you could assemble a dynasty by taking advantage of poorer owners? There has always been poor parity in the NBA for a various amount of reasons. The last ten years has been about average in champion diversity in comparison to the history of the sport. Maybe just the tiniest of smidgens better.
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The league is great because every team is watchable. Except for the Nets. They are horrible D-League trash. edit: Also, I just remembered that the Pacers exist. 28 out of 30 is still pretty good though. Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 00:19
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in nba news the nba decided to rescind two of westbrook's technicals because why not
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TBeats posted:Are the cavs big three really questionable or is this a sly way to give them rest without saying that? Kevin spent most of last game trying desperately to not poo poo himself
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Jan 5, 2017 00:26
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Tae posted:Even if the Warriors all suddenly retired tomorrow, half the league is still boring because the East doesn't matter until lebron retires If Toronto can figure out a way to get Millsap then I'd put them in play. I'd still like the Cavs a little more, but that series would be really, really close.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:31
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If by close you mean a gentlemens sweep then sure
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I've been working on my smug champion fan posting, soon I'll be ready to declare this a lost season when lebron sits out a few games
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Shear Modulus posted:Add a loser's bracket to the playoffs where non-Lebron/Warriors/Spurs teams that made the playoffs can compete for a different trophy and it's understood they're the third place team. In all honesty a best of 3/best of 5 between the conference championship losers on off nights between the finals would be dope as hell
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Jan 5, 2017 00:55
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aBagorn posted:In all honesty a best of 3/best of 5 between the conference championship losers on off nights between the finals would be dope as hell I started writing that post sarcastically but by the time I hit post I had convinced myself that a losers/consolation bracket to the playoffs, that might have ended in an OKC/Toronto series last year for example, would actually rule (as long as the teams take it seriously). Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 01:09
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It's unfair some players are better than others
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Jan 5, 2017 01:09
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Cool Buff Man posted:Not everyone likes their job and links their personal development to it. If he truly enjoyed basketball and invented ways that it was actually important, sure, but he clearly doesn't care that much and it says nothing about him that he's not fully interested in putting in untold effort towards something he doesn't care about. I don't think people are stupid for not wanting to become the best Best Buy salesman in the world There was in article in the Denver Post a few years back that said that Javale was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid and doesn't take medicine for it because he just doesn't want to. It definitely explains his weird mental lapses and he's athletically gifted enough to get away with not taking anything, so yeah, he probably just doesn't give a poo poo.
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Shear Modulus posted:I started writing that post sarcastically but by the time I hit post I had convinced myself that a losers/consolation bracket to the playoffs, that might have ended in an OKC/Toronto series last year for example, would actually rule (as long as the teams take it seriously). Pretty easy to make them take it seriously: just give the winner of the game a spot in the lottery.
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ChickenMedium posted:Pretty easy to make them take it seriously: just give the winner of the game a spot in the lottery. Ooooo
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ChickenMedium posted:Pretty easy to make them take it seriously: just give the winner of the game a spot in the lottery. Jesus Christ, this is a fantastic idea. Like, give them as many balls as the...5th worst team or something, and maybe don't allow them to win the first pick. Gives that large bulk of teams who are trying to decide between a)sticking with an ok-to-good team that's missing a superstar or b) blowing it up and tanking a bit some motivation to choose option a. They may have no shot of winning a ring with their current alright squad, but making the conference finals is within alot of alright team's grasp, and there is a huge potential bonus to getting there. Tho I suppose it could lead to teams tanking to lose the Conference finals to get a chance at the lottery bonus, but that would only happen if they absolutely knew they had no chance against the other conference champ. I think teams are too competitive to do this tho.
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Time posted:No other league let's a player like Russ use 44% of possessions like that. Even the NFL has to have so much go right around a quarterback that it isn't close to equivalent. The "issue" is that with 5 guys on the court and 100 possessions for the sake of this argument, the best players come out ahead because it increases the sample size by so much more than Barry Bonds getting 5 at bats. Random chance doesn't the make the NFL or MLB a better or worse league, just more random *Imagines if 2004 Barry Bonds got to take every at-bat for a game* "Aaaand at the 7th inning stretch it's the Giants 67, the Dodgers 2. We'l be back after this commercial break" 
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Jan 5, 2017 01:47
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Chauncey Billiups made a great comp on Nba countdown: CJ Mccollum plays offense just like Joe Dumars, just no defense
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Jan 5, 2017 01:53
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Gonna be some vintage 08-09 cavs tonight I bet
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Jan 5, 2017 02:03
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What caused Gary Neal to go from decent bench player to d-leaguer?
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Dejan Bimble posted:Chauncey Billiups made a great comp on Nba countdown: CJ Mccollum plays offense just like Joe Dumars, just no defense That would be a good comp except CJ McCollum is already much better offensively than Dumars ever was.
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Papercut posted:That would be a good comp except CJ McCollum is already much better offensively than Dumars ever was. Do you want to loving fight me dog? You want to squabble ?? you want to square up with me kid??? He was using video to show show how CJ uses his dribble moves to get to his favorite midrange spots on the floor in a very similar style to Joe Dumars, not saying they're identical players. A player comp is about style, look
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Ahahahhahahahaha https://twitter.com/UpTheThunder/status/816803670335639555
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Incidentally I was checking out the SportVU miles run per game stat and CJ McCollum is way up at the top. (I was actually thinking Bev would be up there, but apparently not).
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Spacebump posted:What caused Gary Neal to go from decent bench player to d-leaguer? He was a System Player in the non hyperbolic sense of the term. I remember arguing with some dude about how he was definitely not a good use of the Rockets MLE, and would not keep up his production from being on the Spurs. Funnily enough, he'd probably be a good fit on the Rockets now. He kinda burned a lot of bridges though.
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lmao
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