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OSI bean dip posted:You used 1001.85 kWh in that billing cycle. Under BC Hydro, your 30-days of usage would be $5.51 ($0.1835/day) for a connection fee and $83.05 in electricity (at $0.0829/kWh for the first 1,350 kWh), meaning a total of $85.56 as a base. Add $4.43 for a rate rider (5% meant to recoup local maintenance, et cetera) and then add 5% to the current total to bring it to $91.85 total per month just based on your usage. 1) Ontario residents cannot do math nor can they figure out electrical bills or 2) He's growing some sweet sweet Trudeauweed and those Sunny Lamps aren't gonna power themselves e: or 3) Rural dwellers are wasteful idiots CLAM DOWN fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:1) Ontario residents cannot do math nor can they figure out electrical bills Actually, I made two mistakes when I doubled up the bill. It would be $11.02 for the connection fee, so that plus the electricity costs and the rider would mean his bill would be $225.12 with GST, meaning $112.56 per month--not that much of a difference but I did make a mistake here.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:59
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I don't understand how you're all using so much electricity. I consistently run around 200kWh/month. Not a huge place, but it's still >1000 sq ft.
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Jan 4, 2017 19:00
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PittTheElder posted:I don't understand how you're all using so much electricity. I consistently run around 200kWh/month. Not a huge place, but it's still >1000 sq ft. 76% of Ikantski's electricity usage is at night--the rate he is getting is for the hours between 7 PM and 7 AM based on this. What the gently caress is he doing? Southern Ontario has been fairly mild between the dates he has on that bill.
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PittTheElder posted:I don't understand how you're all using so much electricity. I consistently run around 200kWh/month. Not a huge place, but it's still >1000 sq ft. Rurals and suburban McMansion home owners often have very large and VERY poorly insulated buildings. People can also be stupid lazy babies and keep the AC/heat on while they're out because "I don't want to come home to a hot/cold house" and have tons of garbage consumer electronics constantly running or in some standby mode that still sucks up a surprising amount of power. Some people, like my parents, are crazy about "fresh air" and need every window in the house always cracked open a little even if it's the middle of windstorm in winter then have to blast the baseboards to keep warm but if you close a single window they will suffocate because it's "too stuffy" A lot of it too is "it's expensive being poor" sort of situations. An upper middle class person can afford to invest in energy savings for their house, they have the funds on hand to pay 10k today to save 20k over the next years by replacing their old lovely leaky windows or putting in better insulation. A poor person or someone renting a lovely house can logically see that yes in the long run they could save money, but their landlord is a slumlord who doesn't give a poo poo about their tenant's energy costs, or they're a poor home owner who can't scrape together the money to invest in future savings. Grants and various programs to subsidize upgrading energy inefficient homes could go a long way to helping poors hit by rising energy costs, and also reduce overall consumption. Don't subsidize the power itself, subsidize the energy saving investments so people don't need to use insane amounts of power.
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OSI bean dip posted:76% of Ikantski's electricity usage is at night--the rate he is getting is for the hours between 7 PM and 7 AM based on this. What the gently caress is he doing? Southern Ontario has been fairly mild between the dates he has on that bill. Oooo maybe he's mining bitcoins
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OSI bean dip posted:You used 1001.85 kWh in that billing cycle. Under BC Hydro, your 30-days of usage would be $5.51 ($0.1835/day) for a connection fee and $83.05 in electricity (at $0.0829/kWh for the first 1,350 kWh), meaning a total of $85.56 as a base. Add $4.43 for a rate rider (5% meant to recoup local maintenance, et cetera) and then add 5% to the current total to bring it to $91.85 total per month just based on your usage. What is this "minus delivery" idea? Do you pay for electricity that isn't delivered to your house? Your delivery is included in your electricity costs. Why would you exclude my delivery and include yours just because Ontario breaks it up into two costs? You pay $112 a month, I pay $250 a month for the same amount of delivered electricity. You live in a big city I think though so let's compare to Toronto, they'd pay about $195 assuming their off peak usage is as refined as mine. Weekends count as off peak and party time actually starts at 7PM. The main culprits for me are the water heater, oven/stove, clothes dryer and dishwasher so almost all that stuff including bath/showers gets done before, after or weekends. OSI bean dip posted:76% of Ikantski's electricity usage is at night--the rate he is getting is for the hours between 7 PM and 7 AM based on this. What the gently caress is he doing? Southern Ontario has been fairly mild between the dates he has on that bill. Eastern Ontario, not southern, it was chilly enough. I don't heat with electricity other than a small 300-900kw heater in the kid room at night, Sep, Oct, Nov bills were all about the same kw. E: I'm not even sure why you're asking what the gently caress I'm doing? This is what they've been pushing us to do for 7 years here with the on/mid/off peak pricing. Even doing 76% of my electric stuff in the 8.6c range, I'm still coming out to 25c a kWh on my bill. If I wanted the exorbitant luxury of doing a load of laundry or dishes or taking a shower in the middle of the day like you have, I'd pay much higher. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Move to a city then, if you want to enjoy those rates. Otherwise, suck it the gently caress up and pay for rural delivery.
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Baronjutter posted:Grants and various programs to subsidize upgrading energy inefficient homes could go a long way to helping poors hit by rising energy costs, and also reduce overall consumption. Don't subsidize the power itself, subsidize the energy saving investments so people don't need to use insane amounts of power. I'd start with subsidizing light bulbs before I'd get into house modifications. One incandescent light bulb eats 110 kWh per year assuming 2 hours per day--an LED in the same situation would only consume 11 kWh. In my two-bedroom and a den place, if I had nothing but incandescent, $270 of my yearly electricity costs would be just in lighting, whereas with LEDs it would be $27. Superstore (Loblaws) sells LED light bulbs for $5, so for me to go and replace all the light bulbs in the house would net some savings. The State of Washington subsidized LED light bulb sales a while back and I got them for $2 USD each. CLAM DOWN posted:Move to a city then, if you want to enjoy those rates. Otherwise, suck it the gently caress up and pay for rural delivery. This goes over Ikantski's head. Most rurals who complain about the cost of living there don't understand that poo poo costs money. Look at how road maintenance is disproportionately expensive the further away you get from a city. There are some states that have opted to not bother paving state roads.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:What is this "minus delivery" idea? Do you pay for electricity that isn't delivered to your house? Your delivery is included in your electricity costs. Why would you exclude my delivery and include yours just because Ontario breaks it up into two costs? You pay $112 a month, I pay $250 a month for the same amount of delivered electricity. You live in a big city I think though so let's compare to Toronto, they'd pay about $195 assuming their off peak usage is as refined as mine. 73.4% off peak here, at 7:10 pm I turn on the dishwasher, clothes dryer, and washing machine. pre:RATE USAGE CHARGES Electric Charges Electricity On-Peak Winter 0.180000 89.50 $16.11 Electricity Mid-Peak Winter 0.132000 52.47 $6.93 Electricity Off-Peak Winter 0.087000 401.65 $34.94 Delivery $35.69 Regulatory Charges $3.65 Debt Retirement Charge $0.00 TOTAL ELECTRIC CHARGES $97.32 H.S.T. #895730216RT $12.65 TOTAL OTHER CHARGES $12.65 Current Charges due by $109.97 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE $109.97 Debt Retirement Charge Exemption Saved You $3.81
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Arivia posted:Quick tip grandpa: if you go to an actual good steak place and ask for steak sauce you have just outed yourself as trash. You're going to get the worst steak and no one will care how it's cooked because we all know you're not going to taste it anyway.
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THC posted:Also if you go out for steak you are trash Personally I go out to The Keg, a Fine Steakhouse Establishment, where I can enjoy my quaint middle class life. Furthermore,
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Jan posted:My hydro bill in December was 92$... For the months of November and December. Next one in February might reach 110$ for electric heating in the cold Montreal winter months. I'd like to thank the Government of Newfoundland in the 1950s for being dumb as hell and forgetting to add an index clause to the contract selling us power from Churchill falls.
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I'm starting to think the @CBCComedy Twitter feed is an inside job trying to make people hate the CBC so it can be defunded. Most of the few replies and retweets they get are people saying fuuuck yoouuu to their terrible attempts at jokes. https://twitter.com/cdnwaters/status/816648765763297280 https://twitter.com/grantwarkentin/status/816460989025484800
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Entropic posted:I'm starting to think the @CBCComedy Twitter feed is an inside job trying to make people hate the CBC so it can be defunded. Most of the few replies and retweets they get are people saying fuuuck yoouuu to their terrible attempts at jokes. I'm not surprised. If the jokes Canadians are willing to pay for are terrible, imagine how much worse the jokes Canadians get for free are.
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Guys if journalists don't know where the Prime Minister is at all times he could be anywhere!!!! I mean he could be arranging monkey knife fights in international waters! http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/chris-selley-its-2017-do-you-know-where-your-prime-minister-is (Also, Barack Obama Betrayed Israel!!!!!!!!! http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/sibley-obama-sets-the-stage-for-another-war-in-the-middle-east ) JohnnyCanuck fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Entropic posted:I'm starting to think the @CBCComedy Twitter feed is an inside job trying to make people hate the CBC so it can be defunded. Most of the few replies and retweets they get are people saying fuuuck yoouuu to their terrible attempts at jokes. Every year I say there's nothing sadder than that year's air farce NYE special and every year I'm proven wrong by the next one.
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flakeloaf posted:Every year I say there's nothing sadder than that year's air farce NYE special and every year I'm proven wrong by the next one. I used to look forward to those as a kid, I'm pretty sure the funny ones have all either died off or retired by now though
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CLAM DOWN posted:Move to a city then, if you want to enjoy those rates. Otherwise, suck it the gently caress up and pay for rural delivery.
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OSI bean dip posted:This is That is CBC's best comedy show. The National is CBC's best comedy show.
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From a local forum I lurk:quote:This is a major issue in Vancouver right now, and one that I have been dealing with around VGH and lower Cambie. Rich white man is upset that immigrants ruined his community and won't shovel his sidewalk for him.
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OSI bean dip posted:From a local forum I lurk: it does seem like there are a bunch of houses/apartments/condos/whatever all over the city that haven't been keeping the sidewalks clear this winter. Whether that's significantly different than the last time we actually got major snowfall I don't know, but I wonder whether it's just ignorance of whose responsibility it is to do so.
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JawKnee posted:it does seem like there are a bunch of houses/apartments/condos/whatever all over the city that haven't been keeping the sidewalks clear this winter. Whether that's significantly different than the last time we actually got major snowfall I don't know, but I wonder whether it's just ignorance of whose responsibility it is to do so. Not having significant snowfall for a decade is enough for people to forget. Also: https://twitter.com/JenStDen/status/816761829317820417 e: http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/someone-in-vancouver-is-selling-salt-for-80-a-bucket-on-craigslist quote:This morning Vancouverites lined up around the block at 10 fire stations around Vancouver, only to find that the free salt on offer from the City had run out in minutes. The CL posting was flagged. Lain Iwakura fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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OSI bean dip posted:Not having significant snowfall for a decade is enough for people to forget. Vancouver as gently caress. I didn't realize they were giving melt-mix out for free, I've been buying mine like a chump every few years 
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The nerve of this sea witch.quote:Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch told Fox News’ Business Network on Tuesday that elites, insiders, and left-wing media, are doing everything they can to stop her and also suggested she doesn’t agree with universal healthcare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCN8wORwxY
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PT6A posted:Doesn't pretty much everyone in Canada agree with Universal Healthcare? I'm more rightwing than most on this issue, I'd say, and I still think we should have universal healthcare provided to everyone -- I just think we should also have the option of paying for healthcare in a private system as well. you already have that option, just head south
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Vintersorg posted:The nerve of this sea witch. holy gently caress she has the most intolerable voice, to go along with her intolerable ideas
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THC posted:If the city spent millions on plows and shovels and it didn't snow (which is what nearly always happens) these people would bitching about the waste of their tax dollars. Reminder: The CoV only had 1/4-1/3 of their plows (that exist, they already own, and presumably are in working order) out for the second dump of snow. The real problem has been the freezing rain, turning all the lanes and sidewalks in the city into hockey rinks. I have 6 inches of ice outside my place, and even if I owned a shovel (which I don't) it wouldn't help. I would need a sledge hammer and/or non-existent salt. I recommend walking carefully.
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CLAM DOWN posted:holy gently caress she has the most intolerable voice, to go along with her intolerable ideas Pretty much. And yeah, wow, abolishing public healthcare is wayyy too loving right wing Leitch. Can we get Red Tories back or just the sane ones from before Stockwell Day and Preston Manning?
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JawKnee posted:buy a shovel, they're cheap (assuming profiteering hasn't driven up the price on craigslist Nah I live in a townhouse complex so in theory I am paying someone to do it. I don't have storage for a shovel, and good luck finding one in Vancouver at the moment. If I owned a house I would. But unless you were out at 4AM shovelling this dump you probably missed the chance to get it before it was a sheet of ice. It is just funny how that dude thinks it is pre-1980, and his neighbours would be shovelling everyone else out. (Double LOL on Shaughnessy.)
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CLAM DOWN posted:holy gently caress she has the most intolerable voice, to go along with her intolerable ideas And an MBA. There's always more, and it's always worse. I don't think I'd trust this woman to operate on my child. JawKnee posted:Vancouver as gently caress. Whatever it is, it also affects rurals. My neighbour has been bitching and rallying the neighbourhood to complain to Highways that our dead end nowhere road has only been plowed once and sanded a couple of times during the last month. It's down to a thin sheet of ice you have to be really careful driving on. Such a hardship. OSI bean dip posted:From a local forum I lurk: When did Vancouverites ever get together to clear sidewalks? Certainly didn't ever see it when I was a student at U.B.C. living in Kits. Maybe something that happened way back in the mythical "Leave It To Beaver" days when Vancouver was still pretending to be white?
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