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Dollar pulled Yda's burst. Uh. Is it actually good? I've got Refia's already, but no source of imperil-fire.
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Lightning imperil adventures on Aiatar trip report: what happens to a dragon that gets struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else 
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Garuda went down like a chump to my new holy team, the CM was a bit harder because the bastard kept moving out of melee range right when I was about to reapply Full Break. Only took a couple S/Ls, although Yda ate it on my successful attempt. XIII event got pushed back to the 6th for some reason, what the hell am I gonna do all day tomorrow now that I'm caught up?
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Kawalimus posted:Oh man the screen after this android update is AWFUL looking  Look at this dumb bullshit. Look at all the wasted space at the bottom. Why was this update necessary??
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Hmm, this V U++ is gonna be interesting. I think my mage hones are actually alright now (R4 on all -aja and -aga spells, R4 Valefor and all the 3* summons) but I don't have Meltdown yet and my Alphinaud and Papalymo, who are like 75% of my mage team's power right now, are both only level 65 because I ran out of eggs. Not sure if I'm going to be able to swing this one, especially since I'd have to RW wall or else bring Y'Shtola, who is only level 55, and RW OK on her, which would probably be totally poo poo damage.Grozz Nuy posted:Garuda went down like a chump to my new holy team, the CM was a bit harder because the bastard kept moving out of melee range right when I was about to reapply Full Break. Only took a couple S/Ls, although Yda ate it on my successful attempt. Keep running Aiatar / Coeurl until you get the 10k greens
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NGDBSS posted:I dunno whether I was lucky or whether this was just well suited to my group composition, Nah, pseudo-mage-meta against U+ Ishegard seems the way to go. Bad Paralysis RNG is basically the only way the dragon can stand up to a crippling weakness to Chain Firaga/Meltdown/Scorching Flames and the sudden influx of FF14 SBs everyone is likely to have. Grozz Nuy posted:XIII event got pushed back to the 6th for some reason, what the hell am I gonna do all day tomorrow now that I'm caught up? Grind for RMs and/or rub your face against FF3 daily. Kaninrail posted:Dollar pulled Yda's burst. Uh. Is it actually good? I've got Refia's already, but no source of imperil-fire. It's very... situational. If you have a way of keeping Yda from soaking hits (Blink/MBlink spam, Draw Fire/Magic Lure on single-target attacking enemies) then it has the potential to spiral massively out of control and be ludicrous DPS on par with or even better than Refia's. If not, well... it's okay.
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Only took two tries to down Aiatar Apoc. Having two Y'shtolas with SS2 and Asylum is nice. Even when you accidentally use Asylum and not SS2 at the start of the fight, and the other Y'shtola is spamming Wrath because they're not using Mog/Mako RMs. 
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Kaninrail posted:Dollar pulled Yda's burst. Uh. Is it actually good? I've got Refia's already, but no source of imperil-fire.
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hooman posted:What do you mean by S/L? It's shorthand for "save/load" but that's a bit of a misnomer. Basically, if a single-player battle goes pear-shaped (but before you completely party wipe or clear the fight), force close the app and start it back up. Select "ok" to pick up where you left off, and you'll start at the beginning of the fight you were on as if none of that had happened. Basically, it's a handy 'reset' switch for mid-fight bullshit.
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So for some reason I remember people saying Vaan's OSB was one of the weaker ones due to it relying on having some set up before it can be at full strength, but thinking about it now that I have it that doesn't make much sense because all the set up it needs is just landing Full Break, which should be done anyways, and once you do that its potency suddenly is the highest out of all of the physical OSB's. Basically Vaan is the best and shame on anyone who doubted his power. EDIT: Just beat Ultima Weapon and I think that is the first time I have actually made good use of Ashe's 3* White Mage, because I gave her Curaga so that she could be a back up healer to Y'shtola when I am not having her use Alexander. Black Mage Knight fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Black Mage Knight posted:So for some reason I remember people saying Vaan's OSB was one of the weaker ones due to it relying on having some set up before it can be at full strength, but thinking about it now that I have it that doesn't make much sense because all the set up it needs is just landing Full Break, which should be done anyways, and once you do that its potency suddenly is the highest out of all of the physical OSB's. Basically Vaan is the best and shame on anyone who doubted his power. It's one of the weaker ones simply due to the fact that it is non-elemental. Simply using a single +element weapon or armor allows a 1200 potency elemental OSB to effectively hit a neutral target for 1440, which is more than the maxed out potency of Vaan's OSB. Add to that the possibility of wearing a second +element damage equipment for a total of +40% damage, as well as en-element buffs to increase damage (+80%) and you can see why non-elemental OSBs just do not have the potential that elemental ones do.
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Full break brings it up to 13 power, with other physical OSBs being around 12. You can get it to 14 if you also break mind, but that's basically it. Meanwhile, elemental OSBs can hit weaknesses, have access to element boosting equipment, and can combo with en-element SBS. A bunch of them come with non-elemental secondary damage so it's not even any safer than them. I'm not saying it's bad exactly but it's definitely not at the top. Edit: also, hitting weaknesses charges the SB gauge faster, which means more OSBs. And imperils can give a neutral enemy a weakness. Nihilarian fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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KataraniSword posted:It's shorthand for "save/load" but that's a bit of a misnomer. Basically, if a single-player battle goes pear-shaped (but before you completely party wipe or clear the fight), force close the app and start it back up. Select "ok" to pick up where you left off, and you'll start at the beginning of the fight you were on as if none of that had happened. NGDBSS posted:Save/Load. The idea is that the game auto-saves progress before every round of combat, so if things go pear-shaped in a given round then you can just quit the game and restart at the beginning of that round. This exploit (really, what else is it?) is most often used for bosses, since a number of them have a few luck-based mechanics (see above with Isgebind) that have the potential to really screw an encounter when the RNG becomes unfavorable. Thanks a lot, I didn't know that. It'll help a lot being able to retry when I'm wiping against this 60 stamina boss. How often should I be reapplying breaks? There's a visual effect for protect/shell but I have no idea how long my breaks are lasting on bosses.
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Got nothing useful with my $1 pull on XIV banner 2, so I decided to toss 50 mythril at banner 1 again in hopes of maybe getting Minfilia's BSB sword or one of Alphinaud's items. Got a second Holy Shield, an Omnirod and Y'shtola's BSB hat.  On the other hand, at least I didn't get another Thrysus.
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Jesus y'all weren't kidding about Vanille's BSB in multiplayer. With mitigation up, nobody ever went below 90% health during the entire Apocalypse Aiatar fight. I have enough MND with synergy gear to give her BSB 100% uptime, it's completely nuts.
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hooman posted:How often should I be reapplying breaks? There's a visual effect for protect/shell but I have no idea how long my breaks are lasting on bosses.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Jesus y'all weren't kidding about Vanille's BSB in multiplayer. With mitigation up, nobody ever went below 90% health during the entire Apocalypse Aiatar fight. I have enough MND with synergy gear to give her BSB 100% uptime, it's completely nuts. I'm not sure what you're talking about with relation to MND and BSB uptime. The duration of the attack/defend buttons becoming BSB commands is not affected by anything, its a flat 15 seconds. The only thing thus affecting "uptime" is how quickly you can build SB gauge to recast the BSB when it runs out (using wrath/lifesiphon, hitting weakness, using entrust, getting hit more by the enemy, SB building RM's like lionheart/ace striker). I think the haste from the BSB is affected by mind, so maybe that's what you mean?
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NGDBSS posted:Breaks don't always last for the same amount of time, so you'll want to check how long a given one lasts. Usually abilities will last for 15 seconds while soul breaks will last for 25 seconds, but there are a few outliers here and there. Given that, you generally want to reapply ability breaks every ~3 turns (or 4 on a high-SPD character) and those from soul breaks every ~6 turns, since a hasted turn will take about 4 seconds to process between the yellow ATB and the red charge bar. Thanks very much 
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OSBs may not be as useful or as good as BSBs over time but holy poo poo does it feel good slamming a nuke down for 100k
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Dear people in MP, no you cannot run two mages, especially not Vivi in the front row you dumb idiot. You don't have to blow your elemental BSB/OSB the moment you get a charge, we would all appreciate it if you waited until the mob's weakness phase. Dear DENA, please add "Wall please!" "I'll cast Wall" stickers, it will save many tears and wasted soul breaks.
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flowinprose posted:I'm not sure what you're talking about with relation to MND and BSB uptime. The duration of the attack/defend buttons becoming BSB commands is not affected by anything, its a flat 15 seconds. The only thing thus affecting "uptime" is how quickly you can build SB gauge to recast the BSB when it runs out (using wrath/lifesiphon, hitting weakness, using entrust, getting hit more by the enemy, SB building RM's like lionheart/ace striker). Ah, maybe so! So far every time I've used it I've been able to use it again before the BSB runs out, which is pretty amazing given how strong it is. I'll have to test that without haste - I thought some BSB durations scaled with stats but maybe I was thinking of something else.
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Adel posted:Dear people in MP, no you cannot run two mages, especially not Vivi in the front row you dumb idiot. You don't have to blow your elemental BSB/OSB the moment you get a charge, we would all appreciate it if you waited until the mob's weakness phase. It's viable to run two mages, you just have to Defend with the front row one until mitigation is up. And in an ideal world I'd like to have Vivi in the back row, but c'est la vive. Full-mage (with 1-2 supports) MP parties can be and are a viable thing.
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acumen posted:OSBs may not be as useful or as good as BSBs over time but holy poo poo does it feel good slamming a nuke down for 100k Yeah pretty much. And I like them for spike damage toward the end of a fight. For the U+ I just stacked 3 SB bars for Terra's OSB and dropped him 220k in 3 rounds.
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Just beat apoc Aiatar on my first try in multi, Thrillgamesh Drawtaliate was very useful again. Also, someone brought The Echo, which did OSB-level damage on its second cast thanks to Minfilia's Enholy and Aiatar's toxic pool making him Holy-Weak. Overall this boss is easy as gently caress compared to Gilgamesh.
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My budgeted pull for XIV2 was outright bonkers. 5/11 with Temple Gloves, Aug Tekko, Lilith Rod, Kaiser Knuckles (x2). Incredible. With this I have a really solid fire exploits team with Steiner, Krile, Yda, and Papalymo. ...now do I combine these Kaiser Knuckles...
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AweStriker posted:My budgeted pull for XIV2 was outright bonkers. 5/11 with Temple Gloves, Aug Tekko, Lilith Rod, Kaiser Knuckles (x2). Not gonna be another 14 event for a loooooooong time. An extra ten attack on a +element weapon is useful everywhere though.
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I have to thank the fact I lucked out in the XIV Banner 1, because I managed to complete my First CM by constantly layering Alphie's Deployment Tactics with either Papa's Faithga/Hastega or Minifilia's Boostga/Last-Stand while Ysh'tola's BSB saved my toast despite not being my Most Valuable Move (that honor goes to the Fires Within + Chain Firaga Tag Team)... That U+ fight was still a huge doozy with all that munition and RW Wall, though.
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Smoldering Fire owns. Tyro dealt almost 15K to the ice boss with it, without a damage boosting RM. I'm liking this direction ninja magic is taking
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Adel posted:Dear people in MP, no you cannot run two mages, especially not Vivi in the front row you dumb idiot. You don't have to blow your elemental BSB/OSB the moment you get a charge, we would all appreciate it if you waited until the mob's weakness phase. In the same vein: I brought OK with his burst. Wait until you have the buff before you blow your OSB on turn one. Also the number of parties I joined tonight with every healer packing protectga was amazing. Doesn't anyone check what abilities everyone else is bringing? (I know the answer is no.)
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I did the new MP for lowbies earlier and it was real fun, I wish there were alot more battles like that to do. Some guy was running double mage and basically did all our damage. I brought tyro and rosa and pretended to be useful by casting buffs. If I do this in the harder fights will people be able to carry me for that sweet mythril in the harder dungeons? Or is that a horrible idea and I will just be wasting everyone's time? How many hones on breakdowns/shellga/etc do I need to be useful for my fellow DPS friends?
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MannersPlease posted:I did the new MP for lowbies earlier and it was real fun, I wish there were alot more battles like that to do. Some guy was running double mage and basically did all our damage. I brought tyro and rosa and pretended to be useful by casting buffs.
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Don't pull when tired and half-asleep already. Got Alphinaud's Coat (again) and Minfilia's shield. Still no bursts. This also means I'm giving up my XIII pull or my Tactics pull. In good news, I have some really good homemade hot cocoa. So that's kinda cool. Dunno how exactly it was made, but it's cocoa, it's hot, and it makes me feel better. Yay?
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