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I actually love this map.
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Jan 4, 2017 20:53
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Trabisnikof posted:I actually love this map. It's an incredibly good map
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Jan 4, 2017 20:55
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If each Canada had an EV, who would've won the election?
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Jan 4, 2017 20:58
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Lycus posted:If each Canada had an EV, who would've won the election? Definitely Hillary: Cali-Canada New Eng-Canada Chi-troit-Canada Probably Hillary: Mid-Atlantic-Canada Southwest-Canada Probably Trump: Kentuck-Canada Minnesourri-Canada Northwest Canada Definitely Trump: Mississippi-Canada Florida-Canada So it's a tossup, in my mind.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:04
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Schizotek posted:I'm blowing thousands of dollars this summer to provide free labor at a dig-site in Turkey of questionable importance and relevance. gently caress money get.... well I'm sure we'll get something out of all this one day. With the incoming administration I'm just not betting on a paying job. I thought Turkey doesn't allow any archaeological work that doesn't show Glorious Turks as being the native inhabitants for 5000 years, and DEFINITELY nothing that implies Greeks or Armenians ever lived there?
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Jan 4, 2017 21:17
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Pakled posted:Definitely Hillary: I don't know about Southwest-Canada.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:21
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I'd switch the southwest and northwest canadas.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:27
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Schizotek posted:I'm blowing thousands of dollars this summer to provide free labor at a dig-site in Turkey of questionable importance and relevance. gently caress money get.... well I'm sure we'll get something out of all this one day. With the incoming administration I'm just not betting on a paying job. Hey there archaeology buddy.   I work in American contact period; almost all our poo poo is federally funded aside from a couple state sites (like Saint Mary's City) and a trickle of private donations. We're super hosed. And a huge number of our sites are at sea level because that's where native and early European settlements were! So there's that ticking clock. Whoo.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:29
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icantfindaname posted:I thought Turkey doesn't allow any archaeological work that doesn't show Glorious Turks as being the native inhabitants for 5000 years, and DEFINITELY nothing that implies Greeks or Armenians ever lived there? I think you're thinking of Israel? The Turks are pretty aware that their culture migrated from Central Asia, and a big part of the Ottoman mythos was seeing themselves as the heirs of Rome. Most of them are also aware that they're the descendants of Greek speaking Anatolians.
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Jan 4, 2017 22:03
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I thought it was mainly China who didn't allow non-official archeology and all official archeology is just "we dug up a rock that once again proves 5000 years of unbroken han unity over the chinese civilization-state and all world culture and invention flowed from China"
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Jan 4, 2017 22:08
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A lot of state-sponsored archaeological programs, while on the one hand being just about the finest available, are also fraught with thorny nationalism problems. For example, in the United States until relatively recently there was very little Federal funding for archaeology involving pre-european native sites in the east. (The relative obviousness of, for example, Pueblo sites versus Powhatan ones also played a role here, to be fair.)
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Jan 4, 2017 22:18
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Pakled posted:Probably Trump: It looks like most of the people in Northwest Canada are located in the Seattle, Portland, Denver, Las Vegas, and SLC metro areas. Or, to put it another way, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary?, Trump.
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Jan 4, 2017 22:27
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Pakled posted:Mississippi-Canada
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Jan 4, 2017 22:31
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Xylorjax posted:It looks like most of the people in Northwest Canada are located in the Seattle, Portland, Denver, Las Vegas, and SLC metro areas. Or, to put it another way, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary?, Trump. Eh, it's not like Hillary won 60%+ in Oregon and Washington, and Nevada was a tossup, then you have all the flyovers on top of them.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:03
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Why did they need four colors for the map? The yellow areas could be blue, with Cansylvania red and New Engada blue and you'd get no adjacent colored areas with only red, white, and blue. 
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Jan 4, 2017 23:13
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Guavanaut posted:Why did they need four colors for the map? The yellow areas could be blue, with Cansylvania red and New Engada blue and you'd get no adjacent colored areas with only red, white, and blue. Yellow for yellow-bellied Canadian devils.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:17
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Schizotek posted:I think you're thinking of Israel? The Turks are pretty aware that their culture migrated from Central Asia, and a big part of the Ottoman mythos was seeing themselves as the heirs of Rome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory For a long time Turkey promoted the idea that the Hittites were Turkish speakers
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Jan 4, 2017 23:29
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Know how long that lasted for? The Wikipedia page is just talking about stuff in the 1930s, which was an era where crazy nationalism isn't particularly noteworthy.
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Jan 4, 2017 23:52
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Koramei posted:Know how long that lasted for? The Wikipedia page is just talking about stuff in the 1930s, which was an era where crazy nationalism isn't particularly noteworthy. Apparently it pretty much died together with Atatürk himself in 1938. There probably were some holdouts in the following years. And there's still at least one nutter who still believes in it, because of course there is.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:33
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Lycus posted:Eh, it's not like Hillary won 60%+ in Oregon and Washington, and Nevada was a tossup, then you have all the flyovers on top of them. Ok, so I looked and it turns out closer than I'd thought. The totals for WA, OR, CO, ID, MT, ND, SD, NV, NE, UT, WY, and NM combined come out to Hillary 5.85mil vs Trump 6.07 mil. But who knows how much that piece of northern California would tilt things? Xylorjax fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 01:33
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Schizotek posted:I think you're thinking of Israel? The Turks are pretty aware that their culture migrated from Central Asia, and a big part of the Ottoman mythos was seeing themselves as the heirs of Rome. You'd think this sense of shared ancestry would make them a bit less hell-bent on driving out those few Greeks and Armenians that remain in the country.
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Jan 5, 2017 04:52
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They hate themselves very much.
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Jan 5, 2017 05:26
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The Sin of Onan posted:You'd think this sense of shared ancestry would make them a bit less hell-bent on driving out those few Greeks and Armenians that remain in the country. And Shia Iranian national identity sees itself as a defender of religious minorities. These kinds of things rarely actually affect the way people act towards the Other.
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Jan 5, 2017 05:50
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Schizotek posted:And Shia Iranian national identity sees itself as a defender of religious minorities. These kinds of things rarely actually affect the way people act towards the Other. Armenian Christians are actually treated pretty well in Iran, likely better than in Turkey. As for the Kurds and Baloch, maybe worse but at least they haven't been genocided (yet)
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Jan 5, 2017 08:12
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Iran treats its Kurds worse than Turkey does? The same Turkey that's waging a literal war on them?
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Jan 5, 2017 12:36
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Orange Devil posted:Iran treats its Kurds worse than Turkey does? The same Turkey that's waging a literal war on them?
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Jan 5, 2017 16:16
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Xylorjax posted:Ok, so I looked and it turns out closer than I'd thought. The totals for WA, OR, CO, ID, MT, ND, SD, NV, NE, UT, WY, and NM combined come out to Hillary 5.85mil vs Trump 6.07 mil. But who knows how much that piece of northern California would tilt things? The California state on that map is clearly reaching out to steal Las Vegas, so NW is even more Republican.
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Jan 5, 2017 17:07
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Xylorjax posted:Ok, so I looked and it turns out closer than I'd thought. The totals for WA, OR, CO, ID, MT, ND, SD, NV, NE, UT, WY, and NM combined come out to Hillary 5.85mil vs Trump 6.07 mil. But who knows how much that piece of northern California would tilt things? Northern California on that map is very red.
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Jan 5, 2017 19:32
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Northern California is largely red, but how red it is on that map depends on how much of Sacramento is included. I have trouble eyeballing that. Its population dwarfs the rest of the north (minus the San Francisco Bay Area, which is definitely not part of that Canada). Platystemon fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 19:58
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Xylorjax posted:Ok, so I looked and it turns out closer than I'd thought. The totals for WA, OR, CO, ID, MT, ND, SD, NV, NE, UT, WY, and NM combined come out to Hillary 5.85mil vs Trump 6.07 mil. But who knows how much that piece of northern California would tilt things? Lemme tell you about the State of Jefferson. It is upset-the-apple-cart and stereotype-rural-red as all hell. Also it'd be the poorest and most subsidy-dependent State in the Union if it happened.
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Jan 5, 2017 20:08
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Platystemon posted:Northern California is largely red, but how red it is on that map depends on how much of Sacramento is included. I have trouble eyeballing that. Yeah that's what I can't tell. Including Sacramento might tilt it back to Hillary. Of course making the campaigns actually pay attention to any of the aforementioned states would have unpredictable results. Just about every state in P/NW Canada is pretty drat safe one way or the other today.
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Jan 5, 2017 21:05
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I think he meant worse relative to Armenian Christians. Oh, I see.
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Jan 5, 2017 21:10
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Platystemon posted:Northern California is largely red, but how red it is on that map depends on how much of Sacramento is included. I have trouble eyeballing that. It does include Sacramento with SF because you can see the little curvy area next to it which is El Dorado county. Sacramento county starts where the border starts to go north for a bit. It also looks like it includes Yolo which is more Democrat because of Davis as well as Napa, Sonoma, and Marin counties. Irradiation fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Jan 5, 2017 21:26
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Paul.Power posted:In Anglo-Saxon times, Dunwich in East Anglia was one of the largest towns in England. Coastal erosion has turned it into a small village. Neat, thanks.
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Jan 5, 2017 22:32
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Patter Song posted:The California state on that map is clearly reaching out to steal Las Vegas NCR go home
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Jan 6, 2017 01:50
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Can someone find a balkanized map of North America that doesn't suck?
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Jan 7, 2017 03:23
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SoggyBobcat posted:Can someone find a balkanized map of North America that doesn't suck? This one.  http://aschmann.net/AmEng/index_collection/AmericanEnglishDialects.png (it's really quite too big to embed)
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Jan 7, 2017 03:26
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SoggyBobcat posted:Can someone find a balkanized map of North America that doesn't suck?  Everyone's happy
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I don't know, I think Scotland got the short end of the stick on that one.
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