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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
so what you're saying is that we need a nuclear war to thin out the population

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the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

every movie villain who wants to save the planet by literally decimating the population is right

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Fullhouse posted:

every movie villain who wants to save the planet by literally decimating the population is right

even richmond valentine??

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

logikv9 posted:

even richmond valentine??

he had good taste

Serf
May 5, 2011


Fullhouse posted:

every movie villain who wants to save the planet by literally decimating the population is right

I prefer the Ozymandias method, if only because it gets rid of wall street and we get a sick rear end fake alien squid along with world peace

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
the true popularity of the alien squid can be found by monitoring halloween mask sales

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Serf posted:

I mean when I hear the slogan "make america great again" I think of the 50s because of how that era has been idealized to near-mythical standards. the baby boomers were kids then, and it was a time between the war and the tumultuous 60s and 70s, and then the worst excesses by late capitalism of the 80s and 90s and beyond. the 50s are depicted as this incredibly simple and idyllic era of american history that really only existed for "middle-class" white people

living standards were also far lower in the 1950s than today even for poor people

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Larry Hogan Can Be Beat, by Rachel Cohen for The American Prospect.

quote:

While I’d never claim that unseating an incumbent governor with high polling would be easy, Hogan’s alleged inevitability needs a reality check. Maryland is a state where Hillary Clinton swept the floor by 26 points. It's a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two-to-one. Let’s be clear: Larry Hogan can be beat.

Hogan won the governorship in 2014 under uniquely favorable circumstances. His six-point victory was facilitated in part by Democrats taking the race for granted: They waged a pitifully weak campaign effort for an uninspiring and often invisible candidate. The result was a precipitous decrease in statewide voter turnout, particularly in counties that are critical for Democratic wins. Baltimore City turned out 36 percent of voters in 2014, 9 percent fewer than in 2010. Likewise, in Prince George’s County, turnout dropped by 7 percent, and in Montgomery County, by 12 percent.

There’s good reason to suspect the 2018 campaign season will not much resemble the generally muted 2014 contest. For starters, there’s a man named Donald Trump who’s set to take over the White House later this month. He’ll be starting his presidency with a stunningly low approval rating, and the 2018 midterms will be the first opportunity Americans generally, and Democrats particularly, will have to express their displeasure at the ballot box. What’s more, with the federal government under GOP control, Democrats will be focusing more on winning state governments than they have in the recent past. Thirty-six gubernatorial seats up are for grabs in 2018, and as political writer Greg Sargent pointed out, many states in which Republicans are defending governorships are ones that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton recently won.

lol they already want to lay down and die, loving pathetic

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


GalacticAcid posted:

Larry Hogan Can Be Beat, by Rachel Cohen for The American Prospect.


lol they already want to lay down and die, loving pathetic

Is that somewhere else in the article cause the segment you quoted is basically saying "there opportunity for the dems to make a comeback

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
yes



quote:

When Labor Secretary Tom Perez announced in mid-December that he was jumping into the race for Democratic National Committee chair, analysts immediately began to speculate what his motivations could be for challenging Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison. Ellison had already been in the race for a month, and had received diverse endorsements from the AFL-CIO, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer, among many others. Was the White House putting Perez up to this, nervous about a key Sanders supporter leading the party? Was this about preserving support from billionaire donors like Haim Saban, who said electing Ellison would be a “disaster” for Democrats?

And, wait, wasn’t Perez—a former Maryland state official and a longtime resident of the D.C. suburbs—considering a 2018 run against Maryland’s Republican governor Larry Hogan? Wouldn’t this rising political star’s career be better served by making a blue state blue again?

Last month, when I started asking people around D.C. this question, I got two somewhat contradictory responses. First, I’d invariably be asked if I had seen Larry Hogan’s approval ratings. Yes, I knew that the Republican governor currently boasted a 71 percent approval—his popularity was something The Washington Post reminded readers of again and again. But when I’d ask them what they thought Hogan’s biggest accomplishments were, their responses would quickly become vague. “Look … he can’t be beat,” they’d insist. “He’s moderate and just too well-liked.”

GalacticAcid has issued a correction as of 18:04 on Jan 5, 2017

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Fullhouse posted:

it was great for the middle class because labor was the strongest it has ever been in this country and there was high demand for it at all levels

high demand because minorities were excluded from it and because we purged a few hundred thousand working-age kids in the war and because of the sudden expansion of the global American empire, but still

and also because much of Europe and Asia had been literally burned to the ground or reduced to bombed-out ruins by devastating wars, which meant a lot of demand for US goods and not much competition because we were basically the only real country left with factories

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

loquacius posted:

Bourbon is really good by itself and I don't understand why a region of the country known for producing really good liquor would invent a signature drink where you load that liquor down with a bunch of sugar :confused:

It's the south. We put sugar in everything.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


I can think of a certain VP candidate from across the river who meets both those descriptions. But I just can't remember his name. Weird!

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Bernie wood have won

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

hogan did beat stage 4 cancer where he had a couple dozen tumors so there might be something to his unbeatability

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/immolations/status/817029176117104640

Democrazy
Oct 16, 2008

If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

GalacticAcid posted:

Larry Hogan Can Be Beat, by Rachel Cohen for The American Prospect.


lol they already want to lay down and die, loving pathetic

Even if pumping Tom Perez is a little silly, this article certainly isn't entirely wrong. Politics is as national as it ever has been, and statewide offices are a great way for the Democrats to rebuild their bench.

The main problem is that Larry Hogan is awful in ways that are harder to pin down. He has a lot of "common sense" proposals about shortening the school year to help his resort-owning friends and about taking money away from transit to pay for rural roads. He also stayed away from Donald Trump, which helped him. It will be a slog for Dems, certainly.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Democrazy posted:

Even if pumping Tom Perez is a little silly, this article certainly isn't entirely wrong. Politics is as national as it ever has been, and statewide offices are a great way for the Democrats to rebuild their bench.

The main problem is that Larry Hogan is awful in ways that are harder to pin down. He has a lot of "common sense" proposals about shortening the school year to help his resort-owning friends and about taking money away from transit to pay for rural roads. He also stayed away from Donald Trump, which helped him. It will be a slog for Dems, certainly.

The article is good, the defeatist attitude it is criticizing is bad

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Clinton's personality cult will baffle me until I die.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I'm as guilty as anyone of freaking out about Perez's DNC chair run, but I'd be thrilled if he wanted to take a state house away from the GOP and would like to take this opportunity to encourage him to do that, I'm not even mad, go for it


idgi

what is "strength," my definition was apparently wrong

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Grondoth posted:

Clinton's personality cult will baffle me until I die.

It's no less baffling than Trump's personality cult. Clinton embodied the aspirationalism of inoffensive middle class liberals, but it turns out there are way more middle class Republicans so...

Democrazy
Oct 16, 2008

If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

Grondoth posted:

Clinton's personality cult will baffle me until I die.

Clinton is inspiring to many women who felt politically empowered by her career.

My source: many women who have said this to me.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
I can't keep up w this thread but did anyone post this yet

https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/817013818026921984

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Thoguh posted:

The gently caress is going on in Wyoming?

In addition to the oil money (as previously mentioned), Jackson Hole and the surrounding area cater heavily to wealthy individuals. Jackson is literally the most economically unequal city in America. People like Terry Mcauliffe and his family vacation at ridiculous luxury dude ranches out there, where the rooms in your $texas/week cabin are cleaned by underemployed graduate students (my cousin did this for a while). Ski, shoot skeet, get taught to play cowboy by professionals, enjoy fabulous white water rafting, enjoy the best national parks in the country, etc., and then end each day with fabulous gourmet meals. That's vacation of course, but it doesn't take that many ultra-high net worth individuals staying to get pretty ludicrous disparities relative to other states given Wyoming's population.


If you haven't been to that area you should definitely go- you're not going to get anywhere near the same experience as the ultra-rich, but the area is absurdly beautiful and it's not exactly expensive to go day hiking in the Grand Tetons (just watch for bears/moose).

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Democrazy posted:

Clinton is inspiring to many women who felt politically empowered by her career.

My source: many women who have said this to me.

It's mainly Hillarymen we're talking about here

Benjamin Butterworth is not a woman (although it does sound like a fake name)

bump_fn posted:

I can't keep up w this thread but did anyone post this yet

https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/817013818026921984

It did, I think it might have been decided that this was Fake News though???

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

LGD posted:

In addition to the oil money (as previously mentioned), Jackson Hole and the surrounding area cater heavily to wealthy individuals. It's literally the most economically unequal city in America. People like Terry Mcauliffe and his family vacation at ridiculous luxury dude ranches out there, where the rooms in your $texas/week cabin are cleaned by underemployed graduate students (my cousin did this for a while). Ski, shoot skeet, get taught to play cowboy by professionals, enjoy fabulous white water rafting, enjoy the best national parks in the country, etc., and then end each day with fabulous gourmet meals. That's vacation of course, but it doesn't take that many ultra-high net worth individuals staying to get pretty ludicrous disparities relative to other states given Wyoming's population.


If you haven't been to that area you should definitely go- you're not going to get anywhere near the same experience as the ultra-rich, but the area is absurdly beautiful and it's not exactly expensive to go day hiking in the Grand Tetons (just watch for bears/moose).

I think this was an episode of Modern Family

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

loquacius posted:

It did, I think it might have been decided that this was Fake News though???

LOOK AT HIS loving FACE

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

zegermans posted:

There's something to be said about northern states that turned up their noses at the south when they had (and still have) the same level of segregation, just not officially codified into law.

oh no it was- covenant laws, school district maps, freeway permits, etc

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
whom the frick is Dan Nainan

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
i bet that mother farker has never gotten a participation trophy in his freaking life. some millennial...

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

paranoid randroid posted:

whom the frick is Dan Nainan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdOJhXqpoMA

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
“I think people who felt like an underdog might have identified with Trump more, because he was being picked on so much,” Nainan said. “I felt it was very liberating to vote for him and thumb my nose at everybody.”
There he was again in Cosmopolitan in July. This time he was a millennial who swore off porn.
“Of course I liked looking at it, but after awhile, something about it struck me as wrong,” he said.

oh my god you pathetic little bitch

Serf
May 5, 2011


listening to this guy's stand up absolutely bomb on chapo trap house fuckin ruined me. I laughed so hard I got dizzy

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Grondoth posted:

Clinton's personality cult will baffle me until I die.

i used to work with a guy who was a media adviser to the clinton white house in the 90s and during the 08 primaries slowly turned into lope de aguirre thinking he'd get a new gig with the missus in charge

it's purely a patronage system

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

bump_fn posted:

I can't keep up w this thread but did anyone post this yet

https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/817013818026921984

Lmao this is pretty hilarious and just goes to show you the Macedonians still have it in em!

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
guillotine this walking midlife crisis immediately. cut his loving head off literally irl.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Serf posted:

listening to this guy's stand up absolutely bomb on chapo trap house fuckin ruined me. I laughed so hard I got dizzy

lol is this the Belgium guy? dude is a loving trainwreck

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

yeah i wonder why perez wouldn't want to drive his face into the buzzsaw of a nearly unanimously loved governor

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


The Muppets On PCP posted:

i used to work with a guy who was a media adviser to the clinton white house in the 90s and during the 08 primaries slowly turned into lope de aguirre thinking he'd get a new gig with the missus in charge

He... led a party of Spanish adventurers to their ignoble deaths in the Amazon basin after declaring war on the crown?

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