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Daric posted:Leia goes to Naboo and she never mentions that she is the rightful Queen of Naboo. She isn't.
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Daric posted:Something I've just realized, Luke and Leia still don't know who their mom was. There were only a few people that knew about Anakin and Padme and they're all dead. Unless Obi-Wan wrote about it in his journal he left for Luke. But there's a comic where Leia goes to Naboo and she never mentions that she is the rightful Queen of Naboo. Jimmy smits , yoda and obi wan knew and could have told them at any time.
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Jan 5, 2017 19:54
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euphronius posted:Jimmy smits , yoda and obi wan knew and could have told them at any time. Obi wan died like 10 minutes after Luke met him, we never see Yoda tell him (but maybe he did off screen) and yoda never met leia. But maybe they can as force ghosts. But I don't think it's ever been shown in a movie, comic, or book.
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Jan 5, 2017 19:57
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In the novel Bloodline, Leia is aware of Padme being her mother. So at some point she and Luke learned.
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Jan 5, 2017 19:59
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I guess jimmy smits died on alderaan. So Force ghosts or r2d2.
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Teek posted:In the novel Bloodline, Leia is aware of Padme being her mother. So at some point she and Luke learned. In that book, it's also stated in Bail Organa's tell-all recording that he left for Padmé—the one that gets found and revealed to the galaxy.
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Jan 5, 2017 20:02
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In Jedi she says she remembers their mom being kind, but also sad all the time, and that she died when Leia was young. That doesn't match Episode III, but why not just choose one version or another when two stories don't square? Maybe Jimmy Smits is still cruising around out there in space and can tell them in Episode VIII?
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Jack Gladney posted:In Jedi she says she remembers their mom being kind, but also sad all the time, and that she died when Leia was young. That doesn't match Episode III, but why not just choose one version or another when two stories don't square? Maybe Jimmy Smits is still cruising around out there in space and can tell them in Episode VIII? Its implied Jimmy Smits is dead
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Jan 5, 2017 20:07
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Jimmy Smits fell in a timewarp as Alderaan was exploding. He landed in the far future on a planet called Earth and ran for President of the United States.
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Jack Gladney posted:In Jedi she says she remembers their mom being kind, but also sad all the time, and that she died when Leia was young. That doesn't match Episode III, but why not just choose one version or another when two stories don't square? Maybe Jimmy Smits is still cruising around out there in space and can tell them in Episode VIII? Maybe she's talking about her adoptive mother? The woman we saw at the end of Episode III?
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Jan 5, 2017 20:09
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It does match ep 3 tho. Padme was a kind, sad nazi apologist that died when she was very young.
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Jan 5, 2017 20:10
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I always found it weird how Leia's title of Princess is never really explained or used much in the films.
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Jan 5, 2017 20:25
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Lord Krangdar posted:I always found it weird how Leia's title of Princess is never really explained or used much in the films. Her entire kingdom gets blown away early in the first movie, so
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Raxivace posted:Jimmy Smits fell in a timewarp as Alderaan was exploding. He landed in the far future on a planet called Earth and ran for President of the United States. Was that before or after he was a serial killer. And also a cop.
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Zoran posted:Her entire kingdom gets blown away early in the first movie, so Still weird that she was put into hiding as a princess at all. I guess it was mainly a nod to fantasy tropes.
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Phylodox posted:Was that before or after he was a serial killer. Not the same canon, op
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Luke can commune with the spirits of bygone Jedi, including his dad. I'm sure it came up.
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Hodgepodge posted:Luke can commune with the spirits of bygone Jedi, including his dad. I'm sure it came up. "Well you see, son, I acted like a whiny bitch 10 minutes after seeing your mom for the first time in 10 years and for whatever reason she was totally into it. So I pumped her full of my seed and then force choked the poo poo out of her. Harder than we usually did in the bedroom. She didn't like that."
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Daric posted:"Well you see, son, I acted like a whiny bitch 10 minutes after seeing your mom for the first time in 10 years and for whatever reason she was totally into it. So I pumped her full of my seed and then force choked the poo poo out of her. Harder than we usually did in the bedroom. She didn't like that." ...yeah, maybe he left telling that one to Force-Obi-Wan. e: You mother, Luke, was a very special woman. She was nothing like sand. I hate sand. e2: Lord Krangdar posted:Still weird that she was put into hiding as a princess at all. That and she was a Princess in the first film, before it was decided that she was Luke's sister.
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Jan 5, 2017 21:19
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Dont try and rigorously apply the cannon from Ep 4 to anything else.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Still weird that she was put into hiding as a princess at all. Have you never seen the adventure serials these movies are based on? It's like traditional theater in Japan, there's a set of certain characters that we're familiar with (boy who becomes savior, elderly know-all teacher, princess in need of rescue). She's a princess because there's always a princess, except now she's a space princess.
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Nightline talks to ILM about how they did the effects work for Tarkin and Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMB2sLwz0Do Really cool that they got a hold of an actual life cast of Cushing's face. Teek fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Have you never seen the adventure serials these movies are based on? It's like traditional theater in Japan, there's a set of certain characters that we're familiar with (boy who becomes savior, elderly know-all teacher, princess in need of rescue). She's a princess because there's always a princess, except now she's a space princess. I know it was based on them but I've never actually watched one.
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Nielsen posted:Come on, link straight to where we want to be: Linked this without commentary on my Facebook and people are freaking the gently caress out. It's great.
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S.J. posted:Linked this without commentary on my Facebook and people are freaking the gently caress out. It's great. I went looking for a TFA review by him as well and lo and behold: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428730/star-wars-demystified quote:The Force Awakens is a bread-and-circuses carnival (disguised as “The Rapture,” a young videomaker told me) that is intended to keep millennial audiences docile. Maybe that explains the film’s unavoidable sell and both the media’s and the public’s desperate genuflection. Love of Star Wars is not love of cinema, just consumerist habit. The Star Wars Generation — that unfortunate rabble primed to see these films at the precise moment they were becoming culturally responsive — are not necessarily the audience the movie brats deserved; they’re spawn of Baby Boomer affluence and narcissism. Star Wars turned their natural curiosity and wonder into self-satisfaction, artificially dependent on media and merchandising (a tragedy also evident in Apple and Pixar evangelism). hahaha well... and keep us updated on the facebook feed 
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You know we live in a degenerate capitalist hell when people freak out over criticism of the product they consume
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Teek posted:Really cool that they got a hold of an actual life cast of Cushing's face.
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I kind of think it's weird that White considers it childish (in a pejorative sense) to watch a puppet die, when there are entire art forms based entirely around specific types of puppets. Like do I have to go to China and immense myself in Orientalist mystique to feel pathos for an insufficiently realistic representation as an adult? The frustrating thing is that here we have a professional critic complaining about internet fan criticism, but his criticism falls back on precisely the same set of standards as fan reviewers. Like I know a lot about how White feels about Star Wars and popular culture from that review, but absolutely nothing about Rogue One beyond "it is a Star Wars film." Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Phi230 posted:You know we live in a degenerate capitalist hell when people freak out over criticism of the product they consume This is why Facebook and "my brands" is Satan.
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"Critic Gregory Solman shrewdly assessed the momentary backlash (remember all that fake outrage over Jar Jar Binks?) as an indication of the consumer appetite of the Star Wars generation. “Fickle,” Solman put it."
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euphronius posted:Dont try and rigorously apply the cannon from Ep 4 to anything else. That's what Abrams did for TFA. Just made it a little bigger.
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Nielsen posted:I went looking for a TFA review by him as well and lo and behold: I'm shocked as all hell that he writes for the National Review. His attacks on "liberals" always struck me as being in the CLR James sense and not in the George Will sense. Is he such a contrarian that he'll eagerly go to bed with people who would love to put his former colleagues at Out Magazine into concentration camps? Also, he likes 2001? Who could have predicted that?
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Jack Gladney posted:I'm shocked as all hell that he writes for the National Review. His attacks on "liberals" always struck me as being in the CLR James sense and not in the George Will sense. Is he such a contrarian that he'll eagerly go to bed with people who would love to put his former colleagues at Out Magazine into concentration camps? He likes Batman v Superman so he must be a contrarian.
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You guys are building a lot of mystique around someone you would ordinarily vilify as a cranky old conservative man.
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Soggy Cereal posted:You guys are building a lot of mystique around someone you would ordinarily vilify as a cranky old conservative man. Is the RLM guy old? He seems 30sish. He's def cranky tho yeah .
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Soggy Cereal posted:You guys are building a lot of mystique around someone you would ordinarily vilify as a cranky old conservative man. Whose criticism of this particular film seems to be identical to that of the RLM review that was being derided a moment ago.
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How many videos does RLM have where they're just ragging on Rogue One? Another one looked like it popped up on my suggested vids that went up a little while ago. I think people get the gist of their complaints by now, but drat, they must have really disliked it and got a fair bit of backlash or someshit.
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AndyElusive posted:How many videos does RLM have where they're just ragging on Rogue One? Another one looked like it popped up on my suggested vids that went up a little while ago. Literally 0 Every review they made says it's ok
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Soggy Cereal posted:You guys are building a lot of mystique around someone you would ordinarily vilify as a cranky old conservative man. I don't think he is conservative. Until like half an hour ago I thought he was a socialist.
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