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a neat cape posted:They won't have a fanbase if they move to LA anyways, might as well start fresh The pats had attendance issues back in the day. The issue isn't branding, its winning.
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Ron Jeremy posted:The pats had attendance issues back in the day. The issue isn't branding, its winning. Attendance isn't an issue in San Diego because of lack of winning. Attendance is an issue because of this cloud of relocation hanging over the franchise and an owner who's made himself public enemy #1
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a neat cape posted:They won't have a fanbase if they move to LA anyways, might as well start fresh Raiders fans fly to Oakland for games. Dodgers fans fill Percocet (I'm leaving that, gently caress you autofill that's too much to go back to fix and yes I see the irony here) Park when they play the Padres.
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coupbrick posted:Raiders fans fly to Oakland for games. Dodgers fans fill Percocet (I'm leaving that, gently caress you autofill that's too much to go back to fix and yes I see the irony here) Park when they play the Padres. Did Browns fans fly to Baltimore?
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a neat cape posted:Did Browns fans fly to Baltimore? Not sure you should be using the plural.
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Chris James 2 posted:
This is a huge concession, and a big gently caress you to the Rams. If the Raiders continue to perform well on the field they could eat into the Rams' market share with this deal, especially if they are smart about marketing. Many LA fans would rather fly down to Vegas to see a good Raiders team rather than see a bad Rams team at home. If the Chargers end up moving, it will make it even more difficult for them to get fans, as they would start off third behind the Rams and Raiders. Also, if the Raiders decide to play in Sam Boyd for a year or two, you can bet the NFL will accommodate them with several road games and night games to start the season.
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Pretty sure the Raiders would stay in Oakland while the Vegas stadium is being built. Sam Boyd isn't up to nfl specifications
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a neat cape posted:Pretty sure the Raiders would stay in Oakland while the Vegas stadium is being built. Sam Boyd isn't up to nfl specifications And the place the Chargers are reportedly looking at does? Hell I don't know, maybe it does, it's a lot newer. It's just so tiny.
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a neat cape posted:Pretty sure the Raiders would stay in Oakland while the Vegas stadium is being built. Sam Boyd isn't up to nfl specifications Neither is the Coliseum tbqh
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Konstantin posted:This is a huge concession, and a big gently caress you to the Rams. If the Raiders continue to perform well on the field they could eat into the Rams' market share with this deal, especially if they are smart about marketing. Many LA fans would rather fly down to Vegas to see a good Raiders team rather than see a bad Rams team at home. If the Chargers end up moving, it will make it even more difficult for them to get fans, as they would start off third behind the Rams and Raiders. Also, if the Raiders decide to play in Sam Boyd for a year or two, you can bet the NFL will accommodate them with several road games and night games to start the season. TV revenues go entirely to the league to then be split evenly between all the teams, I believe. The market share still matters if it means the LA stadium doesn't sell out for home games, or if they sell less LA merch, of course, but the league wanting to put the Raiders on TV in the huge LA market is probably more of a revenue-maximizing strategy than a specific repudiation of the Rams. Presumably they'll schedule games to not compete for time slots in the same media market, and hope to build both fanbases simultaneously. The LA market is probably big enough to support two fanbases, given it's much larger than the SF Bay Area market and not much smaller than the New York market.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:Neither is the Coliseum tbqh They retrofitted the coliseum last year. And it seats a lot of people. Sam Boyd seats like 20k
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Konstantin posted:Many LA fans would rather fly down to Vegas to see a good Raiders team rather than see a bad Rams team at home. I feel like this statement can't be verified at all until the Inglewood stadium is built. That thing is going to be spectacular and if the Rams ever get decent a lot of families will go.
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a neat cape posted:Sam Boyd seats like 20k I see 35k normally and expandable to 40. The really tiny place is the one Spanos floated for the Chargers as an option. The Coliseum is only going to allow one NFL team to play there aren't they? I assume that's still true or they wouldn't be trying to sell people on that soccer stadium.
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kiimo posted:I feel like this statement can't be verified at all until the Inglewood stadium is built. That thing is going to be spectacular and if the Rams ever get decent a lot of families will go. 2019 is a long way away, fan loyalties could shift a lot during that time. People will check it out once or twice, but I'm not sure large numbers of people will pay a premium to attend multiple games year after year if the team is bad. If the Rams become good that won't be a problem, but that is a big "if."
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Akileese posted:If they rebrand the team they can eventually threaten to move another team back to San Diego as the Chargers. fixed that for you
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a neat cape posted:They retrofitted the coliseum last year. And it seats a lot of people. Nah, the Coliseum hasn't had significant renovations in ages, in recent years all that has happened was redoing the bathrooms, adding a giant screen, and adding credit card support at the concession stands (this only happened 4 or 5 years ago). There are big plans over the next 2-3 years for Coliseum, to actually (kinda) modernize it by redoing the seating, the stairs (cutting each section in half with an extra stair case), building a new media box and luxury boxes, and possibly a canopy to prevent the student section from melting in the sun
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Grittybeard posted:I see 35k normally and expandable to 40. The really tiny place is the one Spanos floated for the Chargers as an option. They want to shove the Chargers into the stub hub center because they know that they'll have no fanbase in LA. People in San Diego won't follow them and they'll be lucky to break 10,000 in attendance
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I usually prefer that relocated teams change their name and logo, but given the dogshit new team names we've gotten in American sports lately, they're probably better off just being the Los Angeles Chargers.
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coupbrick posted:Raiders fans fly to Oakland for games. Dodgers fans fill Percocet (I'm leaving that, gently caress you autofill that's too much to go back to fix and yes I see the irony here) Park when they play the Padres. 1) they all HATE Spanos now, for his bullshit with the stadium and relocation 2) SD natives have a general loathing for everything LA on principle
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The Glumslinger posted:Nah, the Coliseum hasn't had significant renovations in ages, in recent years all that has happened was redoing the bathrooms, adding a giant screen, and adding credit card support at the concession stands (this only happened 4 or 5 years ago). There are big plans over the next 2-3 years for Coliseum, to actually (kinda) modernize it by redoing the seating, the stairs (cutting each section in half with an extra stair case), building a new media box and luxury boxes, and possibly a canopy to prevent the student section from melting in the sun
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I've lived here for 9 years now and I still don't understand why this is. But I can confirm it exists
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a neat cape posted:I've lived here for 9 years now and I still don't understand why this is. But I can confirm it exists I grew up in San Clemente and most people there hated either big city equally. I would think the traffic from SD-LA and back on a Sunday/Monday night would be the dealbreaker. Just getting to Qualcomm in SD is nightmarish enough, add what, 100 miles on the 5 to that drive as well? edit: also any sort of accident on the 5 between oceanside and san clemente means you're just sitting in traffic with literally no where to go but the ocean and camp pendleton.
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a neat cape posted:I've lived here for 9 years now and I still don't understand why this is. But I can confirm it exists
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I was going to argue with that but I drove back from San Diego to Studio City in July and it took nearly 4.5 hours because of multiple wrecks. gently caress that I can drive to Mammoth or Vegas in that amount of time. There needs to be a bullet train or something for that to work, but phase 1 won't be completed until at least 2025 and phase 2 (LA to SD) has no start dates whatsoever at this time.
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I mean, I'm sure there are good books on the sociology of urban rivalries, but it's pretty hilarious that a sports fan of all people would not understand this poo poo intuitively. It really has nothing to do with concrete differences and conflicts between the cities.
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Just have Charger games at 2:00 AM, it's less than a two hour drive at that point.
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rjmccall posted:I mean, I'm sure there are good books on the sociology of urban rivalries, but it's pretty hilarious that a sports fan of all people would not understand this poo poo intuitively. It really has nothing to do with concrete differences and conflicts between the cities. The sports part of it is easy. That makes sense and its tangible. Padres fans hate the Dodgers because theyre a divisional rival and fairly close. Cool. People here hate every single thing about Los Angeles and it's weird. I grew up in Palm Springs which is about two hours away from both cities and I have no problem with either. And it doesn't seem like anyone in LA has a problem with San Diego. They all hate San Francisco. I wonder if Portland/Seattle is the same way
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new yorkers are like the borg, an evil empire of assholes that you can tell apart from regular people (new york accent, timbs, yankees hat), while people from los angeles and san diego are more like romulans: closer to human but the smaller gap belies a more sinister cultural fissure (putting french fries on burritos) edit: also pico de gallo
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Everyone hates LA but it's always one sided and LA is oblivious to any kind of rivalry. Talk to anyone in the bay area and they can tell you about some intense "SF-LA rivalry" but no one in LA will have any clue what you're talking about and don't think about any other cities ever. It's pretty funny.
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kiimo posted:oh god another san diego thread is about to be dominated by burrito chat what's your fav. burr. ??
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kiimo posted:oh god another san diego thread is about to be dominated by burrito chat if you haven't been to senor pedro's in san clemente i don't know what to tell you, sad human
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a neat cape posted:The sports part of it is easy. That makes sense and its tangible. Padres fans hate the Dodgers because theyre a divisional rival and fairly close. Cool. Peeps in Seattle barely think of Portland but Portlanders have a little brother thing.
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FCKGW posted:Everyone hates LA but it's always one sided and LA is oblivious to any kind of rivalry. Talk to anyone in the bay area and they can tell you about some intense "SF-LA rivalry" but no one in LA will have any clue what you're talking about and don't think about any other cities ever. I think there's a pretty solid NorCal/SoCal divide (and an ongoing argument about where to draw the line, exactly) but LAers are fairly oblivious to other rivalries like San Diego or whatever. As a NorCal goon I mostly hate LA because of the horrible traffic and the oppressively hot weather. Don't really have any beef with people from LA. Once upon a time, Niners fans had a rivalry with LA (and Dallas), but nowadays that's shifted to Seattle.
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Leperflesh posted:I think there's a pretty solid NorCal/SoCal divide (and an ongoing argument about where to draw the line, exactly) but LAers are fairly oblivious to other rivalries like San Diego or whatever. Allow me to trigger you, NorCalGoodSir, when I mention one phrase: WATER THEFT.
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FCKGW posted:Everyone hates LA but it's always one sided and LA is oblivious to any kind of rivalry. Talk to anyone in the bay area and they can tell you about some intense "SF-LA rivalry" but no one in LA will have any clue what you're talking about and don't think about any other cities ever. The only city LA hates is Boston
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As far as I can tell, it's more of a thing that people from San Diego have basically no reason to go to LA for anything. It's less 'hate' and more 'why would I ever go there'. You can add an involuntary scoff or burrito at the end of that, I guess.
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