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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

d0s posted:

Pretty insane, the standing models that are game specific aren't even very comfortable to play on (by design), it's expensive and takes up a ton of space. Go with a candy cab (or two if you don't like rotating the screen) and swap the boards imo. you get a larger and better screen, controls that actually work well, and they're comfortable to use

I was planning on picking up some blast city cabs, the only non-candy cab I'd get is Daytona, and that's because it's my favorite arcade game

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d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I just get the boards of games I like, they're expensive and there's no such thing as a flash cart that plays all arcade games so it's self limiting in the way that makes you focus on what little you have without filling your house with large machinery

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

The real insane thing is Pachislot collecting

I was at a game store one time and I was talking to the manager about something. Out of the blue he just goes "Do you like Hokuto no Ken," and I'm like yeah I do. He says "Well I got a buddy who has the Hokuto no Ken pachislot and he wants to get rid of it, do you want to buy it." I had to say no because I was unemployed at the time, and it was probably for the best, because pachislot collecting is the true madness

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I just want a nice medium desktop or cocktail can with maybe 2 boards in it. Or the bartop being a mame machine with a limited selection, maybe 10 games.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

hokuto no ken pachislot machines are absolutely huge in Japan for some reason, this is a picture I took when I was there last year, and you see stuff like this in front of a lot of pachinko places. I actually never tried Pachinko even though I thought I was going to, actually seeing them in person they seem just as depressing and lovely as a slot machine filled casino in the US and I had zero desire to try it

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

d0s posted:

hokuto no ken pachislot machines are absolutely huge in Japan for some reason, this is a picture I took when I was there last year, and you see stuff like this in front of a lot of pachinko places. I actually never tried Pachinko even though I thought I was going to, actually seeing them in person they seem just as depressing and lovely as a slot machine filled casino in the US and I had zero desire to try it



This is one of the reasons why I decided not to pursue a KOF collection, I knew I would eventually have to buy like 10 pachislot machines

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



d0s posted:

hokuto no ken pachislot machines are absolutely huge in Japan for some reason, this is a picture I took when I was there last year, and you see stuff like this in front of a lot of pachinko places. I actually never tried Pachinko even though I thought I was going to, actually seeing them in person they seem just as depressing and lovely as a slot machine filled casino in the US and I had zero desire to try it



I'm pretty sure they release one of those every six months.

That wasn't a joke, BTW. It really is that crazy.


The only Hokuto no Ken machine to have is the one that can break your hand.

Edit:

I was looking for something, and this turned up:



For those of you who don't like those one pachislot game per disk releases.

(WTF does it use wifi for?! :psyduck:)

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jan 6, 2017

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Random Stranger posted:


(WTF does it use wifi for?! :psyduck:)

Leaderboards. Compete for being the luckiest. Seriously.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Random Stranger posted:


(WTF does it use wifi for?! :psyduck:)


It's kinda weird how the Wii's online services from Nintendo have been shut down for over 2 years now, when the 360 and PS3 online stuff is still going strong and has no indication of shutting down soon. The only 360 thing that's going to shut down is the Xbox Live Indie Games service, which closed to new games in October last year, and you won't be able to buy them past September this year.


Speaking of which, if you have a 360 I really recommend you buy the Red Tie Miner series before that closes out. They're good little platformers and the guy hasn't ported them over to the PC, the way a lot of the other good XBLIG titles have been - and like most XBLIG titles they're a buck each. Other XBLIGs you should buy are: City Tuesday, Dead.Kings, Cataboom, Boss, TTY GFX ADVNTR, Growing Pains, Without Escape, My Cat vs Zombies Ep I and MegaCity. There's also Dark Reign Redux, which I'm not sure you really want to play on the 360 since it's a port of a 90s PC RTS, but it's interesting it's there.

Good XBLIG titles that are on PC these days, but you might want on the 360 anyway, are Solar 2 and Vidiot Game.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
The Wii services are shutdown because they were run by Gamespy and instead of moving everything and buying domains, Nintendo just dropped support.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Elliotw2 posted:

instead of moving everything and buying domains, Nintendo just dropped support.

Nothing they could do when the IPs were hardcoded on the DS carts / Wii discs and no patching system existed. They would have to buy Gamespy entirely to keep those old consoles working online and :laugh:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Saoshyant posted:

Nothing they could do when the IPs were hardcoded on the DS carts / Wii discs and no patching system existed. They would have to buy Gamespy entirely to keep those old consoles working online and :laugh:.

Not quite impossible, but generally yes. It might be possible to fudge the Wii's netcode to push all that through a VPN to Nintendo's servers. The games would never know the difference.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
Why would they have to buy Gamespy in its entirety? Gamespy said they wouldn't 'sell' the IP ranges? Or Gamespy had a contract with an ISP that the IPs were only to be used by them?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Saoshyant posted:

Nothing they could do when the IPs were hardcoded on the DS carts / Wii discs and no patching system existed. They would have to buy Gamespy entirely to keep those old consoles working online and :laugh:.

They could have bought out the appropriate parts of the service, there would not be a need to buy all of GameSpy's business, lots of which had nothing to do with the services they ran for Nintendo. Nintendo simply cheaped out.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Not quite impossible, but generally yes. It might be possible to fudge the Wii's netcode to push all that through a VPN to Nintendo's servers. The games would never know the difference.

No need to even do that though, as Nintendo should have been able to acquire all necessary domains and IPs just fine. They do have billions on hand after all. They just didn't want to spend the money.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
To be fair, there's not exactly a whole lot timeless classics dying in the world of Wii online multiplayer so it's really not much of a loss. The only thing actually worth keeping was the Wii Shop Channel and Nintendo actually did that much at least.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I was legit sad when the news,weather, etc apps went offline, they were nicely done and the news app had a cat

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Neddy Seagoon posted:

Not quite impossible, but generally yes. It might be possible to fudge the Wii's netcode to push all that through a VPN to Nintendo's servers. The games would never know the difference.

Yeah, basically put put an override in the network driver to direct any references to those IPs somewhere else.

Really not worth the effort, though.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

To be fair, there's not exactly a whole lot timeless classics dying in the world of Wii online multiplayer so it's really not much of a loss. The only thing actually worth keeping was the Wii Shop Channel and Nintendo actually did that much at least.

I don't think I even used the Nintendo Wi-Fi service beyond the apps and the store until its final week in operation when I decided, "I might as well play as many of these online as I can before they get turned off."

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Random Stranger posted:

I don't think I even used the Nintendo Wi-Fi service beyond the apps and the store until its final week in operation when I decided, "I might as well play as many of these online as I can before they get turned off."

I think the only Wii game I played online was a few rounds of Goldeneye's multiplayer just for curiosity's sake. It was actually pretty good.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

d0s posted:

I was legit sad when the news,weather, etc apps went offline, they were nicely done and the news app had a cat

Yeah the weather and news apps were real cool. Weather in particular was real chill, too.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





It's a New Age Retro Christmas Part 2: Portuguese Delicious Edition!

Hmm, now what could we have in this strangely Brazilian-looking box?



I’ll tell you right off, it’s not two copies of Speedy Gonzales. That’s a good guess though. The seller shipped this in an original Tectoy shipping box. Tectoy is the company that sold and distributed the Master System in South America.



Why it looks like two games for the Sega Master System! The lot was around $55 and came with 3 games, but I've set one aside for next year. Supposedly there’s no region lock on Master System games? I’ve heard as much and I’m going to feel really stupid if that turns out not to be true. Here's hoping they're all worth it at around $18 each.

They mean to win Wimbledon: Hrmm, another tennis game already? I’m starting off tonight with lowered expectations and if you’ve played any of the “Great” sports games for the Master System, you already know why. My first experience with a sports title on the Master System was Great Football, which I have to assume was planned, designed, developed and manufactured on opposite day on the cube planet that that hosed up version of Superman comes from. Well, lets open ‘er up.

Is it still technically new and sealed if there's a rip in the plastic?





The outer plastic (not the shrink wrap) on the case itself is a different texture from the cases found in the US. It’s smoother and feels more heavy duty. The font on the cart is smaller too. This one comes with the manual, naturally, and a nice big two-sided poster for various Master System games and Aladdin for the same.






It’s weird top think how long the SMS lasted in South America. Mortal Kombat got a port to this system. Mortal Kombat. And that wasn’t anywhere near the end of its lifespan either. Wimbledon was a 1992 release fwiw.

Anyway, moment of truth. Will it work?



Success! Wait… Wimbledon 2? Eh, whatever.

I’m bad at this, but not quite as bad as I was with Sega Tennis 2K2. The ball certainly moves a lot slower, and if I set the difficulty to easy and pick one of the weakest players as my opponent, I actually don’t do half bad. You need to target the ball a little more carefully than 2K2, but like I said, the ball is much easier to connect with. The soundtrack is actually upbeat and catchy and keeps you interested. To my surprise I’m actually having fun with this even though I’m bad at it. The graphics are pretty good for the Master System and your player does a funny little angry jig when they lose.

Worth-it-ness: I could actually see myself playing this again, which is way better than I thought, so I'll give a tentative yes even though I wouldn't otherwise have paid this much for it.


Disney’s The Jungle Book: Not much to say here. I’m guessing this one will be a pretty bog-average platformer.

Rip in peace



Game, manual, cool poster. Case is a little different from the standard graph paper look of most SMS games in the US. Wow, color.



Registration card and a little document listing all of the places I could get my Master System serviced if I ever time travel back to Brazil, 1993. There was a second registration card in the back of the manual for some reason.



Mortal Kombat!



And on the back, more games. Poster is different from the one that came with Wimbledon but a lot of the titles are the same.



Popping the cart in gives me an error screen at first, but I try again and it comes through. Whew. You play as a banana-hurling Mowgli trying to find 8 gems on every stage. It’s… okay. Mowgli moves a little slow and needs to build up some momentum to get any distance on his jumps. Most enemies take multiple hits with your bananas, which you have an infinite supply of. It can be kind of tough getting the 2-3 hits off without getting hit yourself though. Even with an enemy all the way across the screen, you move so sluggish it’s only just possible to dodge. Some enemies are placed where you either won’t see them until they pop up right in front of you or where you can’t avoid a projectile when you reach the only logical place to attack them from. The game controls okay and the sound is alright. It’s not bad but you won’t remember it after you shut off the system. The intro music has this odd sort of bubbly sound effect to it that Virgin and other Euro developers loving love for some reason, and which feels like a warning sign that something bad is about to happen to your video game system. There was a lot of flicker on the screen. Not that the sprites were disappearing like on the NES, more that random scraps of sprite kept popping up here and there. It’s a little distracting.

Worth it?: Meh. This met my expectations and for the price I’d rather have a decent game on another system. Not that you’ll probably see this one around if you’re in the states, but I’d skip it. That third game in the lot better be good, but I guess I won't know until next year.

Tomorrow: May as well go for the Sega hat trick.

Edit: It dawns on me now that my rating system for this endeavor is entirely regret based.

Mace Bacon
Apr 16, 2008

YOU'RE SLEEPING HERE? IS THIS WHERE YOU'RE SLEEPING? HUH?!

I'm legit trying to get a SEGA Card Catcher for my SC-3000 and a Copy of Dragon Wang on a Sega My Card.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Quiet Feet posted:

The intro music has this odd sort of bubbly sound effect to it that Virgin and other Euro developers loving love for some reason

That technique was popularised on the Commodore 64 as a way to imply chords with a single voice - it's a little more convincing on C64 because you can filter the sound and add decay and other effects to mask the attack of the individual notes but it was always very conspicuous when used on other hardware, especially SMS.

You very occasionally hear it in Japanese chiptune music but only ever with staccato chord stabs, not the constant warble you hear from most European games.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Quiet Feet posted:

I have to assume was planned, designed, developed and manufactured on opposite day on the cube planet that that hosed up version of Superman comes from. Well, lets open ‘er up.

Excuse me, but Bizarro comes from Earth. Bizarro World, also known as Htrae, was originally a round planet that the Bizarros were relocated to and which Superman then reshaped into a cube for them. So I suppose Great Football was made on the planet that Bizarros come from... (Huh, I could have sworn we had an obnoxious nerd smiley.)

Anyhoo, nifty on the Brazilian Master System stuff. There were still European Master System games coming out at that point as well, though I think it was only about another year there while games kept coming out in Brazil until '98.

TheRedEye
Sep 10, 2003

WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU!

Dr. Spitesworth posted:

Yeah, even with the component cables, GBA games look pretty assy on the GB Player. You need TheRedEye's 240p hack to make it worthwhile. It was posted here a long time ago, so I'm sure someone has the link handy.

I do RGB (not component) so I do homebrew loader > Swiss > Game Boy Interpreter > RGB out on a PAL Gamecube, because only PAL supports RGB natively. It works because you're not ultimately spitting out a PAL signal, you're spitting out 240p.

You could do the exact same with component cables on an NTSC Gamecube if your target supports 240p over component (most late CRTs, Framemeister).

URL grey tea
Jun 1, 2004

IT'S A SAD THING THAT YOUR ADVENTURES HAVE ENDED HERE!!
People unwrapping new CIB retro video games is my new ASMR

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Neddy Seagoon posted:

To be fair, there's not exactly a whole lot timeless classics dying in the world of Wii online multiplayer so it's really not much of a loss. The only thing actually worth keeping was the Wii Shop Channel and Nintendo actually did that much at least.

Excitebots' online mode was a hell of a lot of fun and I will treasure that experience. It's kind of a sad to think that the likelihood of anyone ever playing it online again are near zero.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

That technique was popularised on the Commodore 64 as a way to imply chords with a single voice - it's a little more convincing on C64 because you can filter the sound and add decay and other effects to mask the attack of the individual notes but it was always very conspicuous when used on other hardware, especially SMS.

You very occasionally hear it in Japanese chiptune music but only ever with staccato chord stabs, not the constant warble you hear from most European games.

I don't lurk in this thread too much anymore (and post almost never) but what I like about it is that I can mention some minute aspect of a game offhand and somebody else knows exactly what I'm talking about and has its origin story ready.

Random Stranger posted:

Excuse me, but Bizarro comes from Earth. Bizarro World, also known as Htrae, was originally a round planet that the Bizarros were relocated to and which Superman then reshaped into a cube for them. So I suppose Great Football was made on the planet that Bizarros come from... (Huh, I could have sworn we had an obnoxious nerd smiley.)

Anyhoo, nifty on the Brazilian Master System stuff. There were still European Master System games coming out at that point as well, though I think it was only about another year there while games kept coming out in Brazil until '98.

The normal Earth Superman should be called Orazzib where they come from. Or Bizarro should be called Namrepus. It's just silly otherwise. :colbert:

SeductiveReasoning
Nov 2, 2005

382 BC - 301 BC

URL grey tea posted:

People unwrapping new CIB retro video games is my new ASMR

Its not a bad idea for a potentially successful YouTube channel. Kinda like openboosters does for older Magic: The Gathering cards.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

Monopthalmus posted:

Its not a bad idea for a potentially successful YouTube channel. Kinda like openboosters does for older Magic: The Gathering cards.

This guy ripped an Alpha Black Lotus once, and I thought he was going to die.

If you want to see it, it's the video with five million views.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

SwissCM posted:

Excitebots' online mode was a hell of a lot of fun and I will treasure that experience. It's kind of a sad to think that the likelihood of anyone ever playing it online again are near zero.

There's hope!
https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Soul Glo posted:

This guy ripped an Alpha Black Lotus once, and I thought he was going to die.

If you want to see it, it's the video with five million views.
8 minutes in for anybody morbidly curious
i was promised card ripping. 0/5 would not watch again

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
hi im here for the snes bubsy vga 90+ tia

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Quiet Feet posted:

I don't lurk in this thread too much anymore (and post almost never) but what I like about it is that I can mention some minute aspect of a game offhand and somebody else knows exactly what I'm talking about and has its origin story ready.

What can I say, I have the same "oh gently caress, this game's gonna suck" reaction whenever I hear that sound.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
The only drawback with having the Everdrive is deciding on what games to pick beyond the familar ones. Is there a decent system to try random games. Just seeing them on the list doesn't get me to just boot it up, especially if the page is nothing but ancient sports games. Shame the GBA Everdrive feature of picking a random game isn't on the other versions yet.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Rirse posted:

The only drawback with having the Everdrive is deciding on what games to pick beyond the familar ones. Is there a decent system to try random games. Just seeing them on the list doesn't get me to just boot it up, especially if the page is nothing but ancient sports games. Shame the GBA Everdrive feature of picking a random game isn't on the other versions yet.
I don't think so. When I was watching someone do a Random Games stream with an Everdrive, they'd close their eyes and scroll down the list for a while before hitting a button. They had all their ROMs organized into alphabetical folders (A, B etc.) so they had to do this twice per game. It worked out reasonably enough.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

d0s posted:

I was legit sad when the news,weather, etc apps went offline, they were nicely done and the news app had a cat

You are quite lucky that you just posted this, because this finally went up literally this week!

https://riiconnect24.net/

It brings back the news, weather (!!), and even the mail system apps to the Wii. It works perfectly!

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
oh God I just realized the Wii literally came out over a decade ago. I feel like the Dreamcast was a decade ago :corsair:

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Uncle at Nintendo posted:

oh God I just realized the Wii literally came out over a decade ago. I feel like the Dreamcast was a decade ago :corsair:

Same.

I think what really screws with my perception of console generations is how long the PS2 lasted. I never got anything from the following gen, and they were still producing games for the ps2 for a long long time. I want to say the last game made for it came out in 2013?

Basically Sony's second console feels modern and current to me. Everything after feels like newfangled future bullshit. I occasionally have trouble mentally sorting the Dreamcast, GameCube and og Xbox out of the 32-bit generation. They feel like they were part of a different era. :corsair:

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Veib
Dec 10, 2007


Uncle at Nintendo posted:

oh God I just realized the Wii literally came out over a decade ago. I feel like the Dreamcast was a decade ago :corsair:

The Dreamcast is closer in time to the NES than it is to now. It's hosed up.

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