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paranoid randroid posted:Here Lies Rural America, They Never Scored Actually the problem is they're scoring too much.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:30
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paranoid randroid posted:Here Lies Rural America, They Never Scored I guess that explains the population decline.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:31
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logikv9 posted:Don't forget they're taking the "abstinence" method on drug abuse, rip rural america Have you tried... not being addicted? Problem solved!
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Jan 6, 2017 18:31
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paranoid randroid posted:Here Lies Rural America, They Never Scored such strange last words. "It was Economic Anxiety I swear!"
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Jan 6, 2017 18:31
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zegermans posted:Bernie's pro-rape essays have just as much allure and lack of factual basis as BENGHAZI and swift boating, for starters. It's not about Scandal Points, and it's never been about Scandal Points. It's about the narrative. None of those dovetail as nicely with Trump's campaign as the "lying crooked Hillary is a big gov elitist globalist stooge" narrative as exemplified by That Email Thing If they tried to make a thing out of the rape essays, and it looked like it was working, that's the perfect time to drop "grab 'em by the pussy." Ok, Bernie made some weird analogies in college, whatever, Trump is a literal rapist. That's not a narrative-winner, and so that's not the issue that's gonna sink Bernie. When both candidates are outsiders loathed by The Establishment, Trump can't use that narrative anymore and is suddenly hobbled by the fact that he's Your rear end in a top hat Boss, same as Romney was. There is not really any dirt on Bernie that can counter that.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:32
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zegermans posted:Actually the problem is they're scoring too much. relatives dont count
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Jan 6, 2017 18:32
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Sometimes I look at the rest of the rural America and wonder if I'm missing out on this whole meth/painkiller addiction thing.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:33
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logikv9 posted:baloogan is my alt sometimes i dont know where baloogan stops and i begin
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Jan 6, 2017 18:33
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also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs Why would you do krokodil, already known as That Drug Which Will Literally Kill You, when you can cheaply and easily get your hands on some kind, sticky bud by walking into a store and giving them $20
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Jan 6, 2017 18:34
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pussygate wasn't dropped tactically nor was it in the possession of somebody who would
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Jan 6, 2017 18:34
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loquacius posted:also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs there a high multiplier of x5.0 associated with riskiness
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Jan 6, 2017 18:35
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loquacius posted:also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs colorado and washington have both had legal weed for a long time now, you could probably begin to put together some decent reports if the statistics are available
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Jan 6, 2017 18:36
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loquacius posted:It's not about Scandal Points, and it's never been about Scandal Points. It's about the narrative. None of those dovetail as nicely with Trump's campaign as the "lying crooked Hillary is a big gov elitist globalist stooge" narrative as exemplified by That Email Thing that's not at all how it works though. Trump's big thing was 'the government has abandoned you and won't help you' with a nice sprinkling of 'and those goddamn minorities get all the government benefits'. Sanders would have just as hard a road to get over because all his plans involve saying that the government isn't the problem it's the people running it that are. "Change" isn't some universal thing, most of Trump's voters were told by a white nationalist movement that those goddamn (((globalists))) want more of your money to spread around (and you know who it gets spread to) and they use evil regulations and all to keep you yes you right there from starting the next Walmart. Trump's not anything special, he's a generic hyper capitalist with a heavy coat of generic white nationalist paint.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:37
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loquacius posted:also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs because shooting windex and battery acid in your arm gets you way more hosed up than smoking 20 dollar pot????
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Jan 6, 2017 18:38
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paranoid randroid posted:relatives dont count I meant drugs. Don't be classist.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:38
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that's like saying 'I don't know why these kids are stealing spraypaint to huff when they could smoke pot', they have no money and spraypaint will gently caress you up way better for zero dollars
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Jan 6, 2017 18:40
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Tatum Girlparts posted:that's not at all how it works though. Trump's big thing was 'the government has abandoned you and won't help you' with a nice sprinkling of 'and those goddamn minorities get all the government benefits'. Sanders would have just as hard a road to get over because all his plans involve saying that the government isn't the problem it's the people running it that are. If it came down to people who think their wallet would be best served by the government getting completely hosed vs people who think their wallet would be best served by the rich getting taxed more and the personalities involved were Trump and Sanders I like those odds. Both of them offer easy scapegoats and argue against them effectively. If it comes down to a battle of demagogues, the one who can also depend on California and New York and doesn't have a toxic personality should win.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:41
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loquacius posted:also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs You've never been to Russia, have you?
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Jan 6, 2017 18:42
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Shinjobi posted:Sometimes I look at the rest of the rural America and wonder if I'm missing out on this whole meth/painkiller addiction thing. Depends on if you're okay with missing out on having teeth/being able to take a dump
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Jan 6, 2017 18:42
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zegermans posted:I meant drugs. Don't be classist. im taking a wokeness cheat day to keep my qi balanced
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Jan 6, 2017 18:42
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Tatum Girlparts posted:that's like saying 'I don't know why these kids are stealing spraypaint to huff when they could smoke pot', they have no money and spraypaint will gently caress you up way better for zero dollars I've been to a CO dispensary, you can get a gummy thing there for like the price of a burrito Cheap isn't free, but legal weed is near enough Captain_Maclaine posted:You've never been to Russia, have you? My understanding is that Russians actually want to die
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Jan 6, 2017 18:43
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Tatum Girlparts posted:that's not at all how it works though. Trump's big thing was 'the government has abandoned you and won't help you' with a nice sprinkling of 'and those goddamn minorities get all the government benefits'. Sanders would have just as hard a road to get over because all his plans involve saying that the government isn't the problem it's the people running it that are. Hmm. Perhaps it might have been better not to run a campaign on the idea that what we have now is the best we're ever going to get?
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Jan 6, 2017 18:46
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loquacius posted:If it came down to people who think their wallet would be best served by the government getting completely hosed vs people who think their wallet would be best served by the rich getting taxed more and the personalities involved were Trump and Sanders I like those odds. Both of them offer easy scapegoats and argue against them effectively. If it comes down to a battle of demagogues, the one who can also depend on California and New York and doesn't have a toxic personality should win. yea remember when Clinton lost California and New York? I have no idea what that last bit means, but even without that, and without diving into primary arguments, Bernie was a really fast advocate for Clinton as soon as he lost officially. He was out there being a demagogue and people didn't care. Like, I get that here on the internet revolution the response of 'YEA HE'S A SOCIALIST WHAT OF IT' is super cool and accepted, but the areas we're talking about winning have spent the past 50 years being told that any social programs are actually government plots to give hard working Real American money to gay illegal aliens for abortions. Trump's bullshit 'I'm a good business boy who will let business do whatever they want to my butt' is the solution in that world. Trump's voters constantly cited his business experience and all, you can't just call this a 'change' election, it was also a huge 'pro-business' capitalist election that he won on.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:46
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Tatum Girlparts posted:that's like saying 'I don't know why these kids are stealing spraypaint to huff when they could smoke pot', they have no money and spraypaint will gently caress you up way better for zero dollars A gram of weed is literally $5 (sometimes less), in Colorado.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:46
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am I seeing even a moderate hint of doubt that Bernie Would Have Won search your hearts, you know it to be true
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Jan 6, 2017 18:47
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loquacius posted:I've been to a CO dispensary, you can get a gummy thing there for like the price of a burrito It's not so much that they want to die but rather they generally accept the reality of baseline suffering on a level you don't much see elsewhere. Such is life.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:47
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loquacius posted:I've been to a CO dispensary, you can get a gummy thing there for like the price of a burrito Ace of Baes posted:A gram of weed is literally $5 (sometimes less), in Colorado. yea and I have windex and whatever the gently caress else is in arm destroyer super drug under my sink right now for nothing and I know for a fact it'll wreck me way better than a gram of weed will. Like, they're not doing this poo poo to chill out and listen to music.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:48
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Fullhouse posted:am I seeing even a moderate hint of doubt that Bernie Would Have Won It's because admitting Bernie would have won would involve them coming to the sefl-realization that they were wrong and people like not a step and lowercase were right, something that can't exist in their carefully constructed worldview.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:49
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this is the best argument we've had so far legalize krokodil who cares
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Jan 6, 2017 18:49
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea and I have windex and whatever the gently caress else is in arm destroyer super drug under my sink right now for nothing and I know for a fact it'll wreck me way better than a gram of weed will. yeah but this assumes that your average burnout has the wherewithall to cook his own crokodil
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Jan 6, 2017 18:49
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea remember when Clinton lost California and New York? I sure don't remember when Trump won them  I thought we were talking about a Trump/Sanders matchupquote:I have no idea what that last bit means, but even without that, and without diving into primary arguments, Bernie was a really fast advocate for Clinton as soon as he lost officially. He was out there being a demagogue and people didn't care. Everyone knew he was just trying to prevent a Trump presidency, no one thought it suddenly made HRC a champion of the working class. quote:Like, I get that here on the internet revolution the response of 'YEA HE'S A SOCIALIST WHAT OF IT' is super cool and accepted, but the areas we're talking about winning have spent the past 50 years being told that any social programs are actually government plots to give hard working Real American money to gay illegal aliens for abortions. Trump's bullshit 'I'm a good business boy who will let business do whatever they want to my butt' is the solution in that world. I'm not talking about red states, I'm talking about swing states that competent Democrats manage to win even without talking about all the poo poo you're talking about.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:50
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loquacius posted:also I am unironically convinced that legal weed would undercut illegal drugs hmm, why would i drink a bottle of scotch, when a gallon of listerine is cheap and easy to obtain?
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Jan 6, 2017 18:50
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Being a dirty socialist with actual plans to help the working class and actual conviction is more attractive to working class voters than being neoliberal trash that offers no real hope. Democrats don't win national elections the same way as Republicans. We don't win spewing negativity and smears without motivating voters positively to vote what we can do to help them once elected.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:50
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Fullhouse posted:am I seeing even a moderate hint of doubt that Bernie Would Have Won Bernie's still winning enough that CTR checks are still getting paid out to Peter Daou 
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Jan 6, 2017 18:50
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Oh no what happened I turn around for two seconds and just paragraphs and paragraphs of bad dem opinions!!
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Jan 6, 2017 18:51
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Terror Sweat posted:hmm, why would i drink a bottle of scotch, when a gallon of listerine is cheap and easy to obtain? so in this analogy is krokodil scotch You have some strange ideas either about krokodil or about scotch
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Jan 6, 2017 18:52
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i have no idea waht the gently caress is even being argued about rn
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Jan 6, 2017 18:52
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I just bought two bottles of bourbon so there's gonna be some real spicy takes headed your way tonight dem thread
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Jan 6, 2017 18:53
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Lord of Pie posted:Bernie's still winning enough that CTR checks are still getting paid out to Peter Daou oh, Peter Daou wishes he was getting paid for this. even the Clinton campaign thinks he's loving nuts
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