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Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Sticking my dick in the same hole you poop out of doesn't really turn me on

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Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Porn is a really easy catch-all answer to "Why do so many men think x"

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

Leon Einstein posted:

Why are so many dudes convinced anal is a huge deal?

Because it's tighter, and more degrading for the woman/receiver.

I'm kidding, I think it's the taboo element of it for most men. And porn.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Andrast posted:

Porn is a really easy catch-all answer to "Why do so many men think x"

I dunno, porn doesn't invent fads so much as express them. Porn didn't invent the concept of anal sex.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Plenty of women enjoy anal as well, when it's done right.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Andrast posted:

Porn is a really easy catch-all answer to "Why do so many men think x"

True but as someone mentioned recently in the thread the same can be said for things like more violent blowjobs becoming more mainstream and then people see that and I think that's what's normal and that's what they want to do and it's because that's what they've seen and has been normalized.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Nazzadan posted:

Idk, sex? Are we at a point where we really need to have an acronym for regular vaginal intercourse? If someone says "sex," to me that refers to vaginal intercourse. It's everything else that should have a different name. Anal, bj, hj, etc.

All of those things are sex. If you ever had any, you'd know this.

According to this nerd, gay people don't have sex.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



I like looking at butts so I stick my willy in them. So what

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

JFairfax posted:

Plenty of women enjoy anal as well, when it's done right.
I didn't ask why or if they enjoy it; just why they act like it's a higher tier of intercourse that they need their women to submit to.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Lone Goat posted:

All of those things are sex. If you ever had any, you'd know this.

According to this nerd, gay people don't have sex.

Fair point. Alright I concede I may be the sperg in the situation of people that use PIV and some SA poster who thinks they are dumb.

Content also known as, "This is why you loving put the ages in the OP"

Took a much younger girl's virginity- not sure if it's right to proceed with a relationship due to age gap

quote:

To give some background information, I'm 41 years old and last night things got hot and heavy with an 18 year old girl. She's not some stranger, I've known her since she was 16 and I could tell she's always had an attraction towards me. She's very pretty, but I never saw her in a different light until recently.

Last night, she invited me over to her house for dinner (her parents weren't home) and while we were alone the sexual tension was too strong. I started kissing her on the ear and the neck and my god, her moans were sexy as hell. Seeing her tingle and be pleasured like that was amazing, I've never had a sexual partner react like that. We were kissing for a long time everywhere, she on bottom and trying to kiss every ounce of me while I continued to nibble on her ear and neck. I asked her if she's done anything with a guy, and she said no, and said, "I never even had my first kiss yet." I kissed her and she deeply kissed me back. I also asked her if she was sure if she wanted to continue, since I'm an "old 40 year old man" and she told me, "You don't look close to forty" and started kissing my neck. I couldn't stop myself after that. Anyway, to make a long story short, I ate her out, she gave me a brief handjob and we eventually went to PIV. I've never had a sexual partner, let alone a virgin, react the way she had throughout the entire experience. She was moaning, holding me close to her and kissing me in the right places. By far this has been the most sensual experience (I've had 9 sexual partners) and the fact that she was young, clean and athletic added on to it, I must admit. She said it felt so good and that she couldn't help but moan. She texted me this morning saying "I committed a deep sin" and she said she's deeply religious and hosed up but she doesn't blame me since she wanted it to happen. She also said she loved the experience regardless.

I feel a deep sense of affection towards her. I'm kind of guilty about taking her virginity but her reactions were amazing. She's beautiful, really, and I really like her. I know the age difference would qualify me as a creep and everyone would assume she has "daddy issues," but she's a very intelligent and well-adjusted young woman who's attending a very prestigious university this fall. She is a good student as well, devout church member, but has told me about her struggles with lust. She wants this situation to be a secret, since she doesn't want her church members or parents finding out and wants to continue with a sexual relationship, even if it's a sin. Is it a good idea to proceed? Will there be horrible repercussions from this? She's a very intelligent, well-spoken, confident young lady who seems to know what she wants, but then again she is 18 and hasn't finished high school. She isn't a stereotypical high school girl by the way she talks, dresses and by the things she likes to talk about (she reads the news a lot and has strong political opinions). I can't seem to see her as a teen
TL;DR; I (M 41) had great sex with virgin (18 F) and not sure if we should continue a secret sexual relationship.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

WampaLord posted:

I dunno, porn doesn't invent fads so much as express them. Porn didn't invent the concept of anal sex.

it sure propogated it as the 'hardcore' sex act more extreme than missionary/cowgirl, though

like it's not an unusual thing to try and maybe decide you like but there is no way all of these dudes would have independently arrived at such an intense fixation on buttholes had they not been told about that having a special significance, had media fashion gone another way they would probably all be equally obsessed with the idea of loving in public or something

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

it sure propogated it as the 'hardcore' sex act more extreme than missionary/cowgirl, though

like it's not an unusual thing to try and maybe decide you like but there is no way all of these dudes would have independently arrived at such an intense fixation on buttholes had they not been told about that having a special significance, had media fashion gone another way they would probably all be equally obsessed with the idea of loving in public or something

Sure, I get it, but saying that porn drives behavior doesn't explain everything, or else we'd see an uprising of incest and step-sibling loving based on current trends.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

My (25/F) boyfriend (28/M) of two years is upset that I went on a date once with someone famous 3 years ago and didn't tell him.


the taint of kpop can never be washed clean

I bet it was Dennis Rodman summering down south.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Let's not forget that even breast fetishism is something that ended up being introduced and propagated from the west to the east. Kissing also (which some cultures still don't do). People are influenced by the culture around them, and pornography is part of culture.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Eww, what a gross old dude. My dad has a friend his age that we knew for years, and he tried to creep on my sister too. He creeps on everything though; he's in an open marriage.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

WampaLord posted:

Sure, I get it, but saying that porn drives behavior doesn't explain everything, or else we'd see an uprising of incest and step-sibling loving based on current trends.

poo poo when the 13-year-olds of today start having real sex lives we might

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 6, 2017

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
^just look at that guy posted who wanted to see his girlfriend with he makeup all down her face and poo poo despite her clearly saying she was uncomfortable. Super hosed up. Plus I've said this before but porn, and violent porn, is very, very easy to access. It's not the same poo poo as when I was 12 years old a 14 years ago (what the gently caress) where boys in my class would try and watch the blurred out playboy channel in hopes of catching a nipple. Kids are getting more and more access to their own devices and it's not unusual for a boy or girl coming into puberty to be curious. It's just hosed up that their first points of contact can be some s really sketchy poo poo. There's no denying it.

Nazzadan posted:

Fair point. Alright I concede I may be the sperg in the situation of people that use PIV and some SA poster who thinks they are dumb.

Content also known as, "This is why you loving put the ages in the OP"

Took a much younger girl's virginity- not sure if it's right to proceed with a relationship due to age gap
Humblebrag and :barf: mixed into one. I'm guessing he's a friend of her dads or something.

54 40 or fuck fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jan 6, 2017

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

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Nazzadan posted:

Fair point. Alright I concede I may be the sperg in the situation of people that use PIV and some SA poster who thinks they are dumb.

Content also known as, "This is why you loving put the ages in the OP"

Took a much younger girl's virginity- not sure if it's right to proceed with a relationship due to age gap

This 41 yo just said PIV. No wonder he connected to a naive loving 18 yo

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

54 40 or gently caress posted:

^just look at that guy posted who wanted to see his girlfriend with he makeup all down her face and poo poo despite her clearly saying she was uncomfortable. Super hosed up.

Humblebrag and :barf: mixed into one. I'm guessing he's a friend of her dads or something.
I find his use of "clean" to describe her very disturbing. This guy is going to obsess over this teenager and destroy his life, just wait.

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post
How about something not related to bustin' nuts in butts

quote:

My (23/M) brother's (28/M) girlfriend (25/F) has a bunch of bruises all around her arms and neck

They've been together three years. She's basically part of the family now. To my knowledge, they've always been happy together. Yeah, they argue, but no more than your average couple. That said, when my bother and I were younger, living at home with our parents, he always had a bit of a temper problem. We got into fights all the time, and I'm not saying I didn't deserve to get my rear end kicked, because I probably did, but he always took it too far. I used to go to school with bruises, bloody noses and busted lips all the time. One of my teachers thought I was getting beat up by my parents but I explained that it was my older brother, and they dropped the topic immediately. I guess it's not as serious if your older sibling is the one hitting you as opposed to your parents? Doubly so because we're boys and it was the early 00's.
It got so bad once that our parents had to physically separate us. My brother moved in with our aunt and uncle in the next town over, and I stayed behind. He was around 17 at the time, so he probably would have moved out soon anyway.

That said, I've never seen him act aggressive with his girlfriend. Or any girl for that matter. His temper is nowhere near as insane as it used to be, and he graduated from university with a double major, works full-time in finance. In other words he turned his life around, and I would give most of the credit to his girlfriend.

I sometimes wonder why she's with my brother, which I know is kind of an rear end in a top hat thing to ask, but when you grow up with someone like that and then you see them in a relationship with their polar opposite, it really makes you wonder.
Over the holidays, I noticed something really odd about her. It's the middle of winter and it's cold outside where we live, but my parents' house is always warm. They always have the heat cranked. For some reason though, my brother's girlfriend was bundled up in thick layers of clothing, and she was also wearing a shitload of makeup. I figured she was wearing so much makeup because it was a special occasion (Christmas) but what reason could she possibly have for wrapping a wool scarf around her neck? It was really warm inside the house, and she was definitely shifting and fidgeting around as if she was burning up underneath. I remember my mom asked her if she wanted to sit next to the fireplace, thinking she was cold, but she declined and just stayed quiet the remainder of the day.

Later on at night, when everyone was winding down from the party, I went to use the bathroom thinking no one was in there. I opened the door and saw my brother's girlfriend inside. She wasn't on the toilet or anything. She was just standing in front of the sink, looking into the mirror and washing her hands. Her scarf was off and the sleeves of her sweater were rolled up to her elbows, revealing big reddish/purple bruises along her arms and neck. I must have stared for a good second or two before I snapped out of it and ducked out to give her privacy. I apologized in the hallway after but she didn't say anything, which is very unlike her. I definitely saw something I wasn't supposed to. The rest of the night, she was bundled up again, and she left without saying anything to anyone. This girl is normally very cheery and quick-witted. Even my mom noticed something was off, but we left her alone, and to my knowledge I was the only one who saw the bruises. I haven't told anyone (1) because I don't know where the bruises came from and it's none of my business, and (2) because I don't want to start drama.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if I made a mistake by keeping quiet. I don't want to point fingers and make crazy accusations, but I can't stop thinking about what happened to me when I was younger and just how many people saw my bruises and refused to say or do anything because they didn't want to get involved. My brother has a history of being aggressive, and even though I've never seen him act that way towards any women (or anyone besides me really) he could very well have given his girlfriend those bruises. At this point I would rather start drama and know for sure, than ignore it like my rear end in a top hat teachers and relatives.

I just want to know how I should go about this. My parents aren't the same as they were before. They've changed a lot, and I know they'd take my brother's girlfriend's side if anything ever happened. They're not above holding him accountable for his actions anymore. But this isn't about them. This is about her. Regardless of where the bruises came from, she clearly doesn't want anyone to know about them. My parents and myself included. If I were to do something, what are my options? Do I go to the police? Do I call a hotline? Do I approach my brother's girlfriend directly? She already knows that I know, and she is fully aware of mine and my brother's rough past, so she probably knows that I've connected the dots. We've never had any problems, and she's actually a really good friend of mine at this point. This past July she helped organize a surprise birthday party for me. I wouldn't say we're "close" but we've had some deep conversations in the past and I've told her some things about my brother that I haven't told anyone else, so if I were to approach her asking if she's safe ... I'm pretty sure she wouldn't lie to me. Then again, I've never been in a situation like that with a SO, so I don't know the lengths someone's willing go to hide what's going on.

I could always ask my brother what's going on, but I don't want to endanger his girlfriend in case he was the one who gave her those bruises. He could lose his temper on her thinking she told me.

What should I do?

tl;dr My older brother used to beat me up a lot growing up. It got to the point where my parents had to send him away to live with our aunt and uncle just to keep me safe. He's calmer now, and he's doing really well for himself, keeping away from negative influences. I've never seen him act aggressive towards any women, but over the holidays I accidentally walked in on his girlfriend while she was in the bathroom and I noticed bruises along her arms and neck, which she had been hiding under makeup and thick layers of clothing for most of the night. She was also unusually quiet the entire night. I'm sure you know what I'm getting at here. I don't know what to do. I don't know what's going on with them, whether he's the one who gave her those bruises, and I don't want to point fingers but I also don't want to ignore the signs like everyone did with me when I was the one he was beating up. What should I do? Talk to the police? Talk to her? I don't want to approach my brother with this because if I'm right and he's the only who gave her those bruises, he'll probably just lose his temper on her thinking she told me.

Ugh, this is such a lovely situation to be in. Given the older brother's history I'd say talk to her alone and let her know what he used to do to you then offer support.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

WampaLord posted:

Sure, I get it, but saying that porn drives behavior doesn't explain everything, or else we'd see an uprising of incest and step-sibling loving based on current trends.

This has been observed.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


That's an anecdote, not a trend.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

54 40 or gently caress posted:

^just look at that guy posted who wanted to see his girlfriend with he makeup all down her face and poo poo despite her clearly saying she was uncomfortable. Super hosed up. Plus I've said this before but porn, and violent porn, is very, very easy to access. It's not the same poo poo as when I was 12 years old a 14 years ago (what the gently caress) where boys in my class would try and watch the blurred out playboy channel in hopes of catching a nipple. Kids are getting more and more access to their own devices and it's not unusual for a boy or girl coming into puberty to be curious. It's just hosed up that their first points of contact can be some s really sketchy poo poo. There's no denying it.

tbf quite a lot of our generation grew up fixated on bad drawings of Disney's Robin Hood and girls being inflated with bicycle pumps so at least kids these days are being conditioned to get it up over other actual humans doing physically possible things analogous to healthy sex

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*


And Dahmer watched a lot of gay porn.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

tbf an apparently significant number of our generation grew up fixated on bad drawings of Disney's Robin Hood and girls being inflated with bicycle pumps so at least kids these days are being conditioned to get it up over other actual humans doing physically possible things

I would argue that it's better for people to have fetishes for weird poo poo that is impossible that just leads them to draw bad artwork than to actively victimize other people.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

tbf quite a lot of our generation grew up fixated on bad drawings of Disney's Robin Hood and girls being inflated with bicycle pumps so at least kids these days are being conditioned to get it up over other actual humans doing physically possible things analogous to healthy sex

Speak for yourself :stare:
But really, I think this is far too big of a conversation to really get into here. All I can say is that a lot of porn is based in things like degradation and that's really unhealthy for boys and girls to be exposed to, it completely fucks up the idea of what's normal/acceptable. Like someone else said, I think I'd rather someone have some weird, totally out there fetish drawing poo poo than think it's okay to go rear end to mouth and beat someone to death with your dick or w/e

54 40 or fuck fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jan 6, 2017

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




La Brea Carpet posted:

How about something not related to bustin' nuts in butts


tl;dr My older brother used to beat me up a lot growing up. It got to the point where my parents had to send him away to live with our aunt and uncle just to keep me safe. He's calmer now, and he's doing really well for himself, keeping away from negative influences. I've never seen him act aggressive towards any women, but over the holidays I accidentally walked in on his girlfriend while she was in the bathroom and I noticed bruises along her arms and neck, which she had been hiding under makeup and thick layers of clothing for most of the night. She was also unusually quiet the entire night. I'm sure you know what I'm getting at here. I don't know what to do. I don't know what's going on with them, whether he's the one who gave her those bruises, and I don't want to point fingers but I also don't want to ignore the signs like everyone did with me when I was the one he was beating up. What should I do? Talk to the police? Talk to her? I don't want to approach my brother with this because if I'm right and he's the only who gave her those bruises, he'll probably just lose his temper on her thinking she told me.

Ugh, this is such a lovely situation to be in. Given the older brother's history I'd say talk to her alone and let her know what he used to do to you then offer support.

what if it's rough sex?

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Pick posted:

Let's not forget that even breast fetishism is something that ended up being introduced and propagated from the west to the east. Kissing also (which some cultures still don't do). People are influenced by the culture around them, and pornography is part of culture.

I don't usually go in for this cultural imperialism business, but a culture without kissing? Well that's just not right, says I.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


because prior to incest porn there was not a single incident the world over of older sibilings sexually abusing younger ones. this one mobile article from a random new zealand (???) tabloid surely is damning evidence of evil porn making rapists of men the world over

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

fruit on the bottom posted:

I don't usually go in for this cultural imperialism business, but a culture without kissing? Well that's just not right, says I.

In the time of New York City's "Satan's Circus", its most notorious den of depravity, prostitutes who provided anal intercourse or blow jobs were considered niche and were ostracized by other prostitutes.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Nazzadan posted:

My horse girl girlfriend got mad when I explained the stereotype of horse girls.

I also found out a week ago that at camp, she used to eat horse treats. So she might literally be a horse-girl
http://isyourgirlfriendahorse.com/ - protect your gems

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

what if it's rough sex?

Don't lift shirts

It very well could be. It could also be the beginning of another triple homicide r/relationships post. This is why updates need to be mandatory.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Kid watches pornography about loving his sister, and then fucks his sister. Yeah I'm sure it was all something else though

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Pick posted:

Kid watches pornography about loving his sister, and then fucks his sister. Yeah I'm sure it was all something else though

you are alleging its a direct cause. you need to prove how this case is different than the sadly all too common instances of familial rape that have been going on forever.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


WoodrowSkillson posted:

you are alleging its a direct cause. you need to prove how this case is different than the sadly all too common instances of familial rape that have been going on forever.

jeffery dahmer also watched a lot of porn and did weird sex stuff with his victims. clearly porn made him do it. its science, bitch

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pick posted:

Kid watches pornography about loving his sister, and then fucks his sister. Yeah I'm sure it was all something else though

I was talking about trends, not one-offs.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

WoodrowSkillson posted:

you are alleging its a direct cause. you need to prove how this case is different than the sadly all too common instances of familial rape that have been going on forever.

Not really, because this isn't really a debate stage. One of the commonest complaints that I hear when talking to my friends about sex is men who emulate pornography. I have no idea why people insist that they're thinking isn't affected by it. If a woman watches only Disney princess movies, I assume that she is affected by it. If a guy watches shitloads of anime, I assume he's affected by it. If people could easily separate fantasy and reality, advertising wouldn't work.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pick posted:

If a woman watches only Disney princess movies, I assume that she is affected by it. If a guy watches shitloads of anime, I assume he's affected by it.

Pick, do you think men watch porn in the same way we watch movies or TV shows? The time invested is way way different.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Pick posted:

Not really, because this isn't really a debate stage. One of the commonest complaints that I hear when talking to my friends about sex is men who emulate pornography. I have no idea why people insist that they're thinking isn't affected by it. If a woman watches only Disney princess movies, I assume that she is affected by it. If a guy watches shitloads of anime, I assume he's affected by it. If people could easily separate fantasy and reality, advertising wouldn't work.

Do you also believe movies and video games directly cause violence than, or is that considered separate? Violent music too? People can be influenced by all of those things, and pornography, but I have never seen anything to give them the power to drive such acts alone.

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

WampaLord posted:

Pick, do you think men watch porn in the same way we watch movies or TV shows? The time invested is way way different.

People are affected by 30 second advertisements. You seem to be suggesting that I think that pornography is different, it is not that at all. It is that I think pornography is exactly the same as all other forms of media, and influences people the same way. However, it tends to provide a disproportionate amount of the information that people receive about sex.

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