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Keegers posted:If they made an eve anime which faction would our hero originate? Caldari. If there's something animes love, it's Japanese nationalism
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stale meme dot png posted:
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Dalael posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLRpi2_QdA0<--- Sub why do anime nerds care about dub or sub? is it about artistic vision of the original squeeky voice acter for your underage waifu or what?
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Most people don't. Its generally for a given anime there is one definitively better version most times. Sometimes both are p good tho.
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Rhymenoserous posted:why do anime nerds care about dub or sub? is it about artistic vision of the original squeeky voice acter for your underage waifu or what? The translation is often horrible and often doesn't fit the image. Its the same thing for movies or shows that are translated. I watch everything in its original language. Its also helpful for learning a new language. I know a lot of people who are now fluent in japanese simply because they watched way too much anime with subtitles.
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Dalael posted:I know a lot of people who are now fluent in japanese simply because they watched way too much anime with subtitles. no you don't
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SperginMcBadposter posted:no you don't you idiot
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Rhymenoserous posted:why do anime nerds care about dub or sub? is it about artistic vision of the original squeeky voice acter for your underage waifu or what? Not a huge anime nerd, but read the first two pages of this: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/true-tales-from-localization-hell/ It's an article/interview about dubbing Final Fantasy X to English, and the challenges of it -- the time pressures, why dubbing is significantly harder than just translating it, how a lot of cultural cues and little character quirks/tics have to be translated (or dropped on the floor), and how you end up with abominations like the FFX laughing scene. Same poo poo for anime, I imagine, except worse, because it's probably being done on a shoestring budget. I imagine that there's not really a ton of nerds buying anime DVDs in the US anymore, so the only real payoff for professional dubbing will be "maybe we can sell the dub to Cartoon Network in a few years."
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Dalael posted:The translation is often horrible and often doesn't fit the image. Its the same thing for movies or shows that are translated. I watch everything in its original language. Its also helpful for learning a new language. I know a lot of people who are now fluent in japanese simply because they watched way too much anime with subtitles. lol
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SperginMcBadposter posted:no you don't Actually, yes I do. 2 of them who are fluent and a 3rd who knows enough japanese to be loving annoying about it, always explaining the difference between san, chan and I forget the others cuz I don't pay attention to him. You have clearly never seen an american movie translated to french. Quebec french to be more precise. It's really bad.
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Dalael posted:Actually, yes I do. 2 of them who are fluent and a 3rd who knows enough japanese to be loving annoying about it, always explaining the difference between san, chan and I forget the others cuz I don't pay attention to him. nah you know a couple of people that know how to speak only in cliche anime dialogue
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SperginMcBadposter posted:nah you know a couple of people that know how to speak only in cliche anime dialogue Dude stfu. Not only do you not know me, but you don't know them. E: Although what you said could be applied to the 3rd person.
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Rawhide 'kobayashi' ken: I'm fluent in english from watching all of the big bang theory, bazinga-des~
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its actually a p common thing to watch foreign language shows when learning another language, i think some goons are getting too caught up their anime hate to make fun of something thats actually done tbqh
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Dalael posted:Actually, yes I do. 2 of them who are fluent and a 3rd who knows enough japanese to be loving annoying about it, always explaining the difference between san, chan and I forget the others cuz I don't pay attention to him. Subtitled films are a great language learning aid but if they are no bullshit fluent they put in a lot more effort than just watching subtitled anime. So either they studied it for real or they are deluded.
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i just speak english and a bit of spanish tho
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Who needs subtitles or even the Japanese language when Crispin Freeman does Alucard anyway. 
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Discussion Quorum posted:Subtitled films are a great language learning aid but if they are no bullshit fluent they put in a lot more effort than just watching subtitled anime. As far as I know, neither one of the 2 has taken japanese language courses. I may be wrong tho. If they did, it was long after having learnt enough of the language to be annoying about it. eonwe posted:its actually a p common thing to watch foreign language shows when learning another language, i think some goons are getting too caught up their anime hate to make fun of something thats actually done tbqh Pretty much yeah.
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eonwe posted:also im not sure dalael ever said they only watched anime to learn japanese either tho. really? Dalael posted:I know a lot of people who are now fluent in japanese simply because they watched way too much anime with subtitles.
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SperginMcBadposter posted:really? There's a difference between watching anime TO learn a language, and learning a language by watching too much anime. In their cases, its the latter. They watched so much of it, they ended up learning it.
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If the translations are terrible wouldn't the subs be just as bad? What's the advantage of reading a bad translation vs hearing it spoken?
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this thread made me laugh at work thanks guys
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I shot dreads last night in MY PROTEUS and yelled at some dude for talking about capswarm pings outside of capswarm 
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Dalael posted:There's a difference between watching anime TO learn a language, and learning a language by watching too much anime. Is it bad ? Lots of ppl learned english that way, cartoon network and nickelodeon in my country wasnt translated when i was a kid.
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Dalael posted:As far as I know, neither one of the 2 has taken japanese language courses. I may be wrong tho. If they did, it was long after having learnt enough of the language to be annoying about it. You can self study a language but barring being a literal savant nobody becomes fluent simply by watching subtitled films  You can also be able to spout off a lot of words and phrases but be completely unable to have a real conversation (source: me, currently trying to regain my formerly-advanced Spanish after a decade of disuse). That is not fluent.
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frozenphil posted:If the translations are terrible wouldn't the subs be just as bad? What's the advantage of reading a bad translation vs hearing it spoken? Subs are often made by japanese people who are fan of the anime and translate it. Its not perfect obviously, but its often better. Dub's are often made by company's trying to make it as cheap as possible. Your bases belong to us <--- is a great example of corporation doing it for cheap. Then again, that was back in the days I used to watch it, so sometime in the 90's and early 2000's. Things may have improved by now.
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Denis posted:Is it bad ? thats legit p cool. it must be impossible to do tho, based on what i've seen on this page.
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eonwe posted:thats legit p cool. it must be impossible to do tho, based on what i've seen on this page. Discussion Quorum posted:You can self study a language but barring being a literal savant nobody becomes fluent simply by watching subtitled films I learned English mostly by watching TV shows. Started by sesame street for the basic, then moved on to other shows and eventually went on the internet and learnt the rest. When I couldn't figure out a word or sentence, I'd open up my dictionary. So I beg to disagree. And I don't think anyone here or anywhere would call me a savant, literally or not.
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Dalael posted:And I don't think anyone here or anywhere would call me a savant, literally or not. An idiot, regardless.
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eonwe posted:thats legit p cool. it must be impossible to do tho, based on what i've seen on this page. children learn languages very easily daleals friends are idiots in the same way he is and are not fluent in anything except weeb
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also japanese anime voices are almost universally terrible have you loving heard the japanese goku i mean god drat
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:also japanese anime voices are almost universally terrible have you loving heard the japanese goku i mean god drat hahah you admitted to watching anime. (insert  here due to avatar)
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:children learn languages very easily They speak better Japanese than you can write English. Admittedly its not a high bar.
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i'm not a huge anime fan but occasionally i do watch em, i actually liked Attack on the titan in original 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:also japanese anime voices are almost universally terrible have you loving heard the japanese goku i mean god drat lol this nerd watches anime but for reals tho. Jojo is a perfect example of the sub being far above the dub. it owns.
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Dalael posted:They speak better Japanese than you can write English. Admittedly its not a high bar. It's Good that you keep reaffirming how incredibly stupid you are with this dumbass poo poo baby troll attempts 
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