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CountFosco posted:That's a pretty interesting way of remembering what you said. What you said was: i am insulted you think i would use whatnot unironically in this the year of our lord twenty seventeen
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While we're all arguing, can we settle the filioque issue? Also is the Immaculate Conception real, and are good works are necessary for salvation? I reckon Jesus had two natures, but both of them were an indistinguishable mixture of divine and human.
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Mo Tzu posted:i am insulted you think i would use whatnot unironically in this the year of our lord twenty seventeen I apologize for joking around in a way where you felt like you were being singled out for rhetorical belittling; all I can say is that I see and hear the word whatnot used without often (and notably recently when I listened to the vile Daniel Holtzclaw interrogation video where he nervously tosses the word around out of stress and pressure) and thus felt like you were actually calling me sexist for writing the word "he." This does not excuse me for being a bit mocking, as I reacted while feeling like I was being attacked in a less than exemplary manner. It seems like much of what I say, you find personally insulting and hateful. Perhaps it would be better for you to just block me, so that you don't feel any further anxiety while participating in the ongoing dialogue.
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The Phlegmatist posted:So actually, gently caress you unless you've done something for the least of these, who have the face of Christ. don't prooftext on something whose context you know perfectly well. you try counseling queer youth for whom gender stuff and people making lovely locker-room-quality jokes about their deeply difficult psychological obstacles is literally a life-and-death matter. some of us have actually done this thing professionally and are aware of how serious these issues can be. you want to get sanctimonious about people not doing something for "the least of these"? come dig your fingers into the dirt on my side of the tracks. telling someone to shut the gently caress up after a stupid joke is not "liberal intolerance," it's telling someone who made an rear end in a top hat joke to shut the gently caress up
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Mr Enderby posted:While we're all arguing, can we settle the filioque issue? Also is the Immaculate Conception real, and are good works are necessary for salvation? I reckon Jesus had two natures, but both of them were an indistinguishable mixture of divine and human.
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Guys, calm down. God is above such limited concepts as human notions of gender, and so we shouldn't let such things define our perception of fellow human beings. Mistakes were made, so move on.
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Keromaru5 posted:All I wanna know is, are we celebrating Christmas tomorrow or not? Anyone who celebrates Christmas in any form is nothing better than a pagan.
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CountFosco posted:I apologize for joking around in a way where you felt like you were being singled out for rhetorical belittling; all I can say is that I see and hear the word whatnot used without often (and notably recently when I listened to the vile Daniel Holtzclaw interrogation video where he nervously tosses the word around out of stress and pressure) and thus felt like you were actually calling me sexist for writing the word "he." This does not excuse me for being a bit mocking, as I reacted while feeling like I was being attacked in a less than exemplary manner. It seems like much of what I say, you find personally insulting and hateful. Perhaps it would be better for you to just block me, so that you don't feel any further anxiety while participating in the ongoing dialogue. i think maybe you don't get my deadpan humor, or my deadpan humor works better in the irl life
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The Phlegmatist posted:and this is how the christianity thread rips itself apart i was curious to hear their reasoning but knew it was against the rules but still i hate threads that aren't on full derail mode and they just barely mentioned it and i could be reading into it and be the thought criminal here .
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Bel_Canto posted:don't prooftext on something whose context you know perfectly well. you try counseling queer youth for whom gender stuff and people making lovely locker-room-quality jokes about their deeply difficult psychological obstacles is literally a life-and-death matter. some of us have actually done this thing professionally and are aware of how serious these issues can be. you want to get sanctimonious about people not doing something for "the least of these"? come dig your fingers into the dirt on my side of the tracks. telling someone to shut the gently caress up after a stupid joke is not "liberal intolerance," it's telling someone who made an rear end in a top hat joke to shut the gently caress up During my brief time as a Sunday School minister I had a kid call me up at 2 AM, waking me up. He was threatening suicide because he was gay and his parents wouldn't accept it. I had to talk him down from it. Do you *think* I don't know what goes on in churches today? Do you *think* I don't care? There's bad poo poo going down, but I'm here on the right side of the tracks trying to correct everyone slowly. We need more people like me. e: no abortion chat, it's against thread rules
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something something freedom deferred something something martin luther king jr something something
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Mr Enderby posted:While we're all arguing, can we settle the filioque issue? Also is the Immaculate Conception real, and are good works are necessary for salvation? I reckon Jesus had two natures, but both of them were an indistinguishable mixture of divine and human. A nature is a nature, you can't say it's only half.
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Mr Enderby posted:While we're all arguing, can we settle the filioque issue? Also is the Immaculate Conception real, and are good works are necessary for salvation? I reckon Jesus had two natures, but both of them were an indistinguishable mixture of divine and human. /me takes bait If Jesus did not have an unmixed human nature, he wasn't 'like us in all things but sin'; if Jesus did not have an unmixed divine nature, he wasn't God and thus did not have the authority to forgive sins that weren't committed against him as a man, but he forgave total strangers who hadn't done anything to him. (And to preempt the next argument, sin does not make someone human; sinning diminishes someone's humanity.) syscall girl posted:
Even expressing the reason behind one's opinion on That Topic is super-duper against the rules because it just doesn't go well. I love me a good "no, you're the one whose position is hateful and abhorrent!!!1eleven" argument, but I would rather it not happen to this thread.
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yeah p. much this calvinists be like  took me 20 minutes to learn, smdh calvinists The Phlegmatist fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Merry Christmas, everyone!
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Merry Christmas Eastern-calendar liturgigoons! I had to bail on attending Christmas service with HEY GAL, my eye has been really irritated and I probably have a scratched cornea. Prayers are appreciated.
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The Comna posted:Merry Christmas, everyone! Merry Christimas and a happy new year of our Lord! Pellisworth posted:Merry Christmas Eastern-calendar liturgigoons! To your health, stranger!
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Христос се роди! Merry Christmas everyone! I'm visiting my parents, my almost-2-years-old nephew is being adorable, it's -20C outside and the frost on one of the windows looks like a forest on a mountaintop, and I fully expect to end this day comfortably heavier than I am now. 
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The Serbian reply is apparently "indeed, He is born!" which I dont think anyone else does. Weirdos. Ваистину се роди my dad 
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Caufman posted:Ah, Josef Bugman, I always knew you were a good person with good tastes. The Glorantha series has the most thought-provoking depictions I've encountered of mythology and its role and its relativity between cultures. This is from while back, but from my reading Malkion can be considered sort of Jesus, in that he was the sacrifice that needed to die in order to experience something He hadn't understood. But we could also say that Hreostal was Jesus as well in that he dies for his new faith having tried to convert everyone, even the Vadelli, to his new and better understanding of Solace. But in truth you could even say that the White Moon of Peace is a representative aspect of Jesus in that it will rise and bring forth a new age of peace when the red moon empire withers away. I love Glorantha and I make no apologise for it. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Merry Christmas, Orthogoons
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Josef bugman posted:This is from while back, but from my reading Malkion can be considered sort of Jesus, in that he was the sacrifice that needed to die in order to experience something He hadn't understood. But we could also say that Hreostal was Jesus as well in that he dies for his new faith having tried to convert everyone, even the Vadelli, to his new and better understanding of Solace. Don't gently caress with the ducks ED: also, merry chism-as!
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Shut up and look at this church. Burgos cathedral is a good example of how a gothic cathedral fits in with the city. Its architecture makes you look up. Now take that same basic awesome design, and build it with stone available locally.  Albi is built out of red bricks. Clermont is near a volcano.  
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Worthleast posted:Shut up and look at this church.  Words fail me.
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The Phlegmatist posted:Merry Christmas, Orthogoons Christ is born! the phlegmatist, i forgive you for insulting me, but your contention that I have to sit there and take insults without defending myself unless I've done as much social work as you have is weird as hell. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Caufman posted:I am a little curious about your interest in weaponry, Hey Gal, but neither is it too much my business. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:The Serbian reply is apparently "indeed, He is born!" which I dont think anyone else does. Weirdos. They did a tribute to this concept in Talladega Nights but blasphemed it up by having Taco Bell and KFC on the table still in its packaging You could tell they weren't being sincere about Baby Jesus that way
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HEY GAL posted:i am a pretty bellicose person, and i've been interested in military things since earliest childhood. i'm also blind in one eye. so i'm a military historian instead of anything you know, real. Respect. I have an interest in military history and science as a current necessary reality of statecraft, though I don't think I myself am an aggressive person. I'm thoughtful of the Orlanthi saying, "Violence is always an option." It's considerable even if one is not considering the role of the aggressor. I'm also thoughful of what the 31st chapter of the Dao De Jing says about violence and war, and that victory in war ought to be observed like a funeral.
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Caufman posted:Respect. I have an interest in military history and science as a current necessary reality of statecraft, though I don't think I myself am an aggressive person. I'm thoughtful of the Orlanthi saying, "Violence is always an option." It's considerable even if one is not considering the role of the aggressor.
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HEY GAL posted:yeah--the more you learn about conflict, the more you learn about what a terrible thing war is. little kids are all hoorah-violence, teenagers on the internet yelling about tanks, but then you talk to people who have actually been hurt, or the relatives of the dead, and you stop thinking like that. Caufman posted:Respect. I have an interest in military history and science as a current necessary reality of statecraft, though I don't think I myself am an aggressive person. I'm thoughtful of the Orlanthi saying, "Violence is always an option." It's considerable even if one is not considering the role of the aggressor. You'd hope that things like the internet and the ability to talk to people who've suffered loss would reduce the human appetite for war. But as usual we continue to go "well this time it'll work out good". Also if people do want to run a heroquest cam PM me, I can always GM and set up a game in the Trad games area.
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hey Mo Tzu, here's your new year's temple visit
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HEY GAL posted:yeah--the more you learn about conflict, the more you learn about what a terrible thing war is. little kids are all hoorah-violence, teenagers on the internet yelling about tanks, but then you talk to people who have actually been hurt, or the relatives of the dead, and you stop thinking like that. Definitely. As I get older, I only get more humbled by the deadly seriousness of life, and therefore of one's relationship to the ultimate meaning, the telos, the imperatives of God. There was agonizing to do in the privacy and night of the garden.  And then there was resurrection to do, and the joy of eternal life and the victory of the Kingdom of Heaven. 
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Is it still bad to kind of have these weird moments of fantasizing where Crusades represent both war and eternal salvation? Asking for a friend.
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Ceciltron posted:Is it still bad to kind of have these weird moments of fantasizing where Crusades represent both war and eternal salvation? Asking for a friend. We still have the Crusades though. The best thing if you're worrying about salvation is to discourage others from participating.
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Hoover Dam posted:hey Mo Tzu, here's your new year's temple visit you're the second person to tell me about their new year's temple visit
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