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FactsAreUseless posted:I think 2 is better than 3. I enjoy the faster gameplay and not spending as much time in menus, the Big Shell is amazing as a giant facility to sneak around, even more than Shadow Moses, and I think that, aside from the bits of MGS3 with the Boss, MGS2 has more interesting writing. I think 2 has better writing but 3 has the better setting and concepts
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elf help book posted:uncharted 2 is widely considered a masterpiece Don't compare the original MGS to uncharted 2. One is nearly 20 years old and still holds up, the other is known for ???, being reviewed well isn't what makes it a masterpiece.
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Black Baby Goku posted:I think 2 has better writing but 3 has the better setting and concepts
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Jan 6, 2017 14:57
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All jokes aside though, Undertale is a masterpiece.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:18
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They're all really really really good games
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Jan 6, 2017 15:21
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1,2,3 and 4 are all very memorable to me and have some of my favorite moments in all of gaming period, 5 doesn't really stand the test of time already for me and I don't see myself ever returning to it unless doing another complete run through the series. I still play through MGS 1-4 on a near yearly basis since their releases though
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The one thing that's kinda odd about 4 is that every other main line MGS game takes place in a single location (except V which has two but you spend more time in Afghanistan and Africa than the length of other mgs games). But 4 has the act structures which always made it feel more disjointed to me. I wish the whole game took place in Act 3
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In Training posted:The one thing that's kinda odd about 4 is that every other main line MGS game takes place in a single location (except V which has two but you spend more time in Afghanistan and Africa than the length of other mgs games). But 4 has the act structures which always made it feel more disjointed to me. I wish the whole game took place in Act 3 I love the return to shadow Moses the most, and how they redeemed Raiden
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Jan 6, 2017 15:23
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I love how tiny and empty shadow Moses is
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Black Baby Goku posted:For 1998 it's a game with a 100,000 word script and the best gameplay on the psx, and is widely considered a masterpiece, unlike 5 Taken with its contemporaries, MGS1 is the greatest. It marked the dawn of a new era in gaming, and there's simply no comparison among other games released in 1998. There are glaring flaws in V, chiefly being that chapter 2 is basically a sick joke. The game is so blatantly unfinished it's almost hilarious; the final mission is literally the exact first mission again for chrissakes. The time spent running to your objective in each episode could've been shortened as well. This is why I rate 3 above it. Even with these things in mind I can't see how a game as primitive as MGS1 even approaches V's quality in terms of any aspect other than story.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:43
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progress is an illusion, see: mgs2
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2 will always be my favorite, it's the first game I got with my PS2 and I played it over and over and over. I think I only beat MGS1 once, twice if you count Twin Snakes
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Jan 6, 2017 20:03
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mgs2 is cool cause its in a weird place between the absolute cutting edge but still with some visible remnants of like the original msx/nes design
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Jan 6, 2017 20:31
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i guess most mgs is like that, like mgs1 being a remake of mg2 and whatever. but after mgs2 the 2d stuff started to become more and more irrelevant
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Jan 6, 2017 20:38
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The MGS saga stands together as one story, nitpicking it is like nitpicking the bible sorry
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Jan 6, 2017 22:29
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I will never call any MGS "bad" or "the worst" because together they make one great tapestry.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I will never call any MGS "bad" or "the worst" because together they make one great tapestry. This
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Black Baby Goku posted:I love the return to shadow Moses the most, and how they redeemed Raiden the Rex vs Ray fight is the greatest boss fight for me
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i think it was bbg that said it but i agree somewhat, V is a really awesome game but i dont see myself going back and replaying it over and over again like i do with literally every other metal gear game. it is completely devoid of charm
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Jan 7, 2017 02:01
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It's because it's 80 hours long. You can replay MGS1 in an afternoon
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In Training posted:It's because it's 80 hours long. You can replay MGS1 in an afternoon That's not why
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I totally agree that mgsv is kinda empty and like dry? but I still like it. and like people have said miller and ocelot are great. its kinda unique in that the snake character doesn't really have a character, so its the first mgs w/a kind of like, link/mario/chrono style player insert character instead of a real character. but I think it works.
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Jan 7, 2017 03:43
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Zas posted:I totally agree that mgsv is kinda empty and like dry? but I still like it. and like people have said miller and ocelot are great. its not that it works, its that the game still is fun to play despite it. the story of V is poopy rear end dicks from my balls and if the gameplay wasnt completely perfect like it is i would have been really disappointed in the game. but the gameplay does pwn so i still love it.
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Jan 7, 2017 03:47
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Hospital intro + truth tapes saved MGSVs story for me.
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Jan 7, 2017 03:50
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Plot wise I think of it as a weird ambitious spinoff focusing on secondary and background characters, 3xploring what it's like to be a pawn of the crazy MGS power games (or a pawn of a pawn I guess) with some interesting backstory stuff about Zero and BB. Like Kojima says it's not MGS5 it's MGS Vee. If you don't buy that I can see why you'd just hate it to be fair
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Jan 7, 2017 03:54
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I still think it's insanely funny that Skull Face spent 9 years perfecting his evil villain speech down to the full tour of his facility and timing, only to tell it to the wrong person, who didn't care
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Jan 7, 2017 03:56
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I still think it's insanely funny that Skull Face spent 9 years perfecting his evil villain speech down to the full tour of his facility and timing, only to tell it to the wrong person, who didn't care [stares silently]
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I didn'tt realize David Hayter cowrote the first X-Men movies lol Also he was Lupin in Castle of Cagliostro? sounds cool I never watched the dub
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Jan 7, 2017 04:12
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Zas posted:I didn'tt realize David Hayter cowrote the first X-Men movies lol I didn't realize a bunch of stupid poo poo that has nothing to do with the conversation as well LOL. Any other cool trivia you would regale us with?
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Jan 7, 2017 04:14
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I got 100% in MGSV for PS4 and I've almost got 100% in the Steam version
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Jan 7, 2017 04:29
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Lumpy the Cook posted:I got 100% in MGSV for PS4 and I've almost got 100% in the Steam version
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Black Baby Goku posted:I didn't realize a bunch of stupid poo poo that has nothing to do with the conversation as well LOL. Any other cool trivia you would regale us with? Uncalled for.
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Jan 7, 2017 04:45
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net cafe scandal posted:Uncalled for. 
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bbg is extremely salty this week
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Jan 7, 2017 04:55
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I'm sorry everyone but I'm not gonna stand for people saying MGS 1 is primitive and ranking 5 above any of the other 4
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Jan 7, 2017 04:56
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I love mgs1 thats why I was talking about the voice actor for solid snake and his interesting life
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Jan 7, 2017 04:57
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I've only ever played Twin Snakes but I played it like 12 times
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Jan 7, 2017 05:14
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Twin Snakes is win and all haters of it can meet me outside to get attacked with a shotgun
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Jan 7, 2017 05:15
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I get that the new controls made some parts too easy but all MGS games are easy lol
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I get that the new controls made some parts too easy but all MGS games are easy lol Yeah I guess if you play on easy mode
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