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Zore posted:gently caress you think that's bad? I played Jade Empire and it had a threesome! Just ripping off the Witcher left and right. Honestly, it gets better: they can kick you out and continue by themselves. 
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Cythereal posted:Honestly, it gets better: they can kick you out and continue by themselves. Which is a bit weird, seeing as how they're cousins.
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Section Z posted:
The best paragon/renegade choice is Paragon: Exterminate Quarians Renegade: Exterminate Geth
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Skippy McPants posted:Which is a bit weird, seeing as how they're cousins. They don't know they're cousins at that point in the story.
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Cythereal posted:They don't know they're cousins at that point in the story. Don't they? It's been a while, but I thought the romance plots resolved after you find out that Master Li is Dawnstar's dad. Either way, awkward.
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Jan 7, 2017 00:00
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I liked the Jade Empire combat. Turning people into bonsai formations and then exploding them was a hoot.
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Jan 7, 2017 00:24
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It got a bit tedious after a while, but that's combat in most RPGs. I remember Jade Empire pretty fondly. Any setting that isn't just Medieval fantasy world #728 gets a plus from me, and the plot twist was actually pretty clever.
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Skippy McPants posted:It got a bit tedious after a while, but that's combat in most RPGs. I remember Jade Empire pretty fondly. Any setting that isn't just Medieval fantasy world #728 gets a plus from me, and the plot twist was actually pretty clever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqaCEPwWGtc
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Har. I do wonder, though. I know Jade Empire borrowed pretty much all of its tropes and plot beats from pulp Kung Fu films, and was whole "gifted pupil purposely trained with a secret vulnerability" thing lifted from one of them?
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Been looking up some footage on Youtube about the game, since it's being mentioned more frequently again all over the place. Obviously it doesn't divulge much about the story, but the combat kind of looks like a chaotic mess. Didn't really do much for me. Also, why are there plenty of humans, Krogans and poo poo already somewhat established in the Andromeda galaxy? Wasn't the shtick that nuSherpard was there first?
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tenshianna posted:Leaked audio file proves Liara's showing up in Andromeda: oh my god
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Combat Pretzel posted:Been looking up some footage on Youtube about the game, since it's being mentioned more frequently again all over the place. Obviously it doesn't divulge much about the story, but the combat kind of looks like a chaotic mess. Didn't really do much for me. Also, why are there plenty of humans, Krogans and poo poo already somewhat established in the Andromeda galaxy? Wasn't the shtick that nuSherpard was there first? Re Combat: The game is built on the same engine as Dragon Age: Inquisition, so even odds the combat will be a total cluster gently caress. Cross your fingers! Re Races: Stuff got fubar, and some folks arrived at the wrong time, got lost, etc., whatever justification we can come up with to skip having to develop a bunch of established native species cause that poo poo is expensive.
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I think what bugs me is that jumpy poo poo. Before, it was kinda optional hidden behind the biotic stuff, the cover and pewpew worked fine on its own. But Andromeda seems to have plenty of large enemies sprinting at you and wants you to make use of the jetpack to bounce around and away. At least that's the impression of the few snippers I've seen.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Been looking up some footage on Youtube about the game, since it's being mentioned more frequently again all over the place. Obviously it doesn't divulge much about the story, but the combat kind of looks like a chaotic mess. Didn't really do much for me. Also, why are there plenty of humans, Krogans and poo poo already somewhat established in the Andromeda galaxy? Wasn't the shtick that nuSherpard was there first? Some stuff happend and some ships got there late or something
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Skippy McPants posted:Re Combat: The game is built on the same engine as Dragon Age: Inquisition, so even odds the combat will be a total cluster gently caress. Cross your fingers! Yeah man, the Battlefield engine is going to be poo poo for shooting!
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tenshianna posted:Leaked audio file proves Liara's showing up in Andromeda: I hope she does the graey alien Riddick post next.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I think what bugs me is that jumpy poo poo. Before, it was kinda optional hidden behind the biotic stuff, the cover and pewpew worked fine on its own. But Andromeda seems to have plenty of large enemies sprinting at you and wants you to make use of the jetpack to bounce around and away. At least that's the impression of the few snippers I've seen. Keep in mind, a lot of that is them juicing it to the max for trailer purposes. If you go back and look at the combat in earlier ME trailers, you'll see bunch of Vanguards charging around all over the place because that looks zippy and frenetic in quick cuts. I'd be shocked if the actual game didn't also have the more methodical sniper and biotic playstyles. Those just don't get any screen time, cause they're not xtreme enough.
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Skippy McPants posted:Keep in mind, a lot of that is them juicing it to the max for trailer purposes. If you go back and look at the combat in earlier ME trailers, you'll see bunch of Vanguards charging around all over the place because that looks zippy and frenetic in quick cuts. I'd be shocked if the actual game didn't also have the more methodical sniper and biotic playstyles. Those just don't get any screen time, cause they're not xtreme enough. Or the debuff and control style that pure tech has leaned towards throughout the series.
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Veotax posted:Yeah man, the Battlefield engine is going to be poo poo for shooting! I didn't say the shooting would be bad, I said the whole combat system might be a mess. A lot of the powers in DA:I were clunky and poorly designed, so I'm not so sure it'll be different here. On the upside, they're going with a "no classes" system, so there ought to be at least a handful of powers that are effective and feel good to use somewhere in the bundle.
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Drifter posted:Pull is one of the best talents.
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nerdz posted:You gotta remember that bioware started saying poo poo like this when developing inquisition: to be fair. they are trying hard as gently caress to make up for the abortion that was DA2: one city, one dungeon and basement. Skippy McPants posted:Re Combat: The game is built on the same engine as Dragon Age: Inquisition, so even odds the combat will be a total cluster gently caress. Cross your fingers! i doubt the combat will be as bad as inquestion. inquestion(in my opinion) had the same problem final fantasy 13 had. it didnt know what it wanted to be. personaly i would rather have just active regular combat like witcher 3 or even final fantasy 15 then the half baked MMO poo poo in inquestion. my guess is the combat will be like 3 but with some stat poo poo from 1.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i doubt the combat will be as bad as inquestion. inquestion(in my opinion) had the same problem final fantasy 13 had. it didnt know what it wanted to be. personaly i would rather have just active regular combat like witcher 3 or even final fantasy 15 then the half baked MMO poo poo in inquestion. The Dragon Age series has been clinging to the "tactical RPG" concept like a diseased limpet since its inception. They are stubbornly unwilling to give up on the idea of cramming both an old-school party-based RPG and a modern 3rd person action RPGs into a single shell. It's awful. They need to get over it, settle on one, and cut the other loose. I agree the combat is unlike to be as bad as Inquisition. As you point out, they seem to have a much better idea of what the core combat in ME is.
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[quote= Aaryn Flynn] Last I checked, we were like other Frostbite games on PS4 and XBox One - 1080p and 900p respectively. All are at 30 fps. PC has uncapped framerate. I think we've even gotten over the 30 fps cap in cutscenes, but I'll double-check in the next couple of weeks. [/quote] Pretty much expected consoles, unfortunately. I'm glad they resolved that cutscene garbage on PC though.
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Enigmatic Cakelord posted:Pretty much expected consoles, unfortunately. I'm glad they resolved that cutscene garbage on PC though. Have anyone ever expected modern games to run at over 30 on a console?
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tenshianna posted:Leaked audio file proves Liara's showing up in Andromeda: 
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Skippy McPants posted:Have anyone ever expected modern games to run at over 30 on a console? Overwatch does, MGSV does, some CoDs do.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Overwatch does, MGSV does, some CoDs do. Sure, but isn't it always a rare exception rather than the expected standard?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Overwatch does, MGSV does, some CoDs do. I feel like overwatch is a special exception cause blizzard has been making games run smoothly on potato computers for years. It's kinda one of their things.
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Skippy McPants posted:Have anyone ever expected modern games to run at over 30 on a console? some do. mostly dice and the various cods as well as few others. ill be a weird gently caress and say while i love 60fps, i dont really care one way or another as long as it doesnt crash. Skippy McPants posted:The Dragon Age series has been clinging to the "tactical RPG" concept like a diseased limpet since its inception. They are stubbornly unwilling to give up on the idea of cramming both an old-school party-based RPG and a modern 3rd person action RPGs into a single shell. It's awful. They need to get over it, settle on one, and cut the other loose. this.id honestly prefer if it went full witcher like combat(but improved) but that's me. 2 felt like it was headed in that direction but 2 was also terrible. mass effect outside of 1 doesnt really have issues with combat and i am sure andromda will be fine in that regard. i am more worried about the story and characters sucking.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:some do. mostly dice and the various cods as well as few others. ill be a weird gently caress and say while i love 60fps, i dont really care one way or another as long as it doesnt crash. Oh, it's Bioware. We know every character will suck, and there'll probably be cutscenes leading up to that once you start romancing them. I just hope the characters are well written, and interact well in the game.
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Drifter posted:Oh, it's Bioware. We know every character will suck, and there'll probably be cutscenes leading up to that once you start romancing them. I just worry Bioware will make the new group of companions to be shallow copies of the original ME characters. Like they are going to try to force the female Turian into gender swapped Garrus without really understanding why every one lived him.
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BexGu posted:I just worry Bioware will make the new group of companions to be shallow copies of the original ME characters. Like they are going to try to force the female Turian into gender swapped Garrus without really understanding why every one lived him. Now, people are going to say, there's no need for additional marketing material. However, a short one minute video demonstrating how their cast of characters are cool and unique would put at least this idea to rest. I mean, it's not like ME2 did it five months prior to their release date.
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Milky Moor posted:Now, people are going to say, there's no need for additional marketing material. What are you talking about? We already got a two minute lovely mockumentary about the two Ryder voice actors. That's not enough for you animals? smh
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Drifter posted:What are you talking about? We already got a two minute lovely mockumentary about the two Ryder voice actors. 
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Peebee's name (Peebee) is a reference to the character Princess Bubblegum from the animated TV phenomenon Adventure Time.
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Skippy McPants posted:I didn't say the shooting would be bad, I said the whole combat system might be a mess. A lot of the powers in DA:I were clunky and poorly designed, so I'm not so sure it'll be different here. Isn't that a per game problem rather than an engine problem? Also you're full of poo poo if you say with any amount of certainty one way or the other that this game will be poo poo/amazing. Wait and loving see you god drat grogs. Decoding what's going on from rumors and playing trailers backwards to listen for satan is dumb as gently caress and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for not just doing literally anything else than claiming poo poo about the game that is provably wrong from earlier trailers. The smart money is it'll just be another bioware RPG, with everything that goes with that. If you hate bioware RPGs lately chances are it's not for you, if you like bioware RPGs lately chances are you'll like it. LITERALLY MY FETISH fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Isn't that a per game problem rather than an engine problem? Sure, but with everything else being equal, a Bioware game with minimal mmo filler quest/game design vs one with DA:Inq levels of maximal mmo filler quest/game design could seriously make or break the game. And yeah, we don't know. But it's definitely cause for concern - seeing as I don't think there's really any "cinematic" rpg experience set in space like this. Zero future-space rpgs, that aren't D-grade SPiders' games or whatever. Mankind DIvided is *close* (after a fashion), but I DO enjoy the combat gameplay of the Mass Effect series. Drifter fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Isn't that a per game problem rather than an engine problem? Maybe? Whatever the cause, the combat in Bioware games has always been fairly middling. ME 3 is probably the best they've done, and it is by no means immaculate. Also, you seem to be projecting a lot of aggression on to me, for some reason. I think Andromeda is likely to be a good game. I like Bioware RPGs—I even liked Dragon Age 2—but I can enjoy their output while still being critical of the areas where they tend to fall short.
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