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negromancer posted:I wasn't intentionally trying to objectify her. I was just saying literally all I knew for about 24 years of my life was she was a famous white woman with big titties. I figured she was something like Elizabeth Hepburn or Dame Judy Densch. I found out much later "oh yeah, she's a legendary country singer".
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Who What Now posted:If we can only praise people who are perfectly immaculate then that's a pretty short list. This is a pretty weird thread for people to rally to the defense of a rural rich white woman, though. Fluffdaddy posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/dolly-parton-tennessee-fires.html?_r=0 Yeah, watch the actual dixie stampede show she runs. Unless it's radically changed in the last few years, there's always some dog-whistle jokes about minorities in it. And the reaction to the fires in Tennessee would mean more if they hadn't turned that foundation around and had it funded by donations instead of being directly funded from the coffers of her company and personal holdings. It's easy to be charitable when you do it with someone else's money.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:10
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:All good but you shouldn't need to know anything about a woman to know she's more than just tits, because no woman is just tits. Clearly. I just only knew that one thing she was famous for. Wasn't implying titties was the totality of her character. Because that's like having your brain set to being a porn parody of a real brain.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:11
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biracial bear for uncut posted:This is a pretty weird thread for people to rally to the defense of a rural rich white woman, though. Good lord, binow. You're being really patronizing, among other things. Negrotown is not your personal soapbox, if you want to play leftier than thou find some white thread to hijack instead. Hey white looky-loos: If you don't routinely badger white people for not scanning every person place and thing they like for traces of problematic you don't get to do it to black people here. Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Jan 9, 2017 21:12
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Good lord, binow. You're being really patronizing, among other things. Negrotown is not your personal soapbox, if you want to play leftier than thou find some white thread to hijack instead. I would like to announce that I am a YUUGE hypocrite that judges people for eating at Chick-Fil-A but still uses modified Paula Deen recipes. That is all.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:15
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:All good but you shouldn't need to know anything about a woman to know she's more than just tits, because no woman is just tits. Could you imagine if one was though? She would be unstoppable!
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Yeah, because custom titles bought for everyone that posted in either of the D&D ghetto threads by Trump supporter trolls mean anything. I'm sure Lowtax enjoyed the influx of  from bitter, sensitive splerglords, as it was explained to me in crystal clear detail the last time I brought this up in QCS.
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Yeah, no, I am not caving on Dolly. She is a gem and has been extremely good to her LGBTQ fans too. If she sets up a ride with nooses and burning crosses at Dollywood then we can talk.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Could you imagine if one was though? She would be unstoppable! Unless she had to run somewhere 
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Could you imagine if one was though? She would be unstoppable! I mean, that sounds good in theory for about 2 seconds then you think, so I paid x amount of dollars to see a human sized pair of titties, and realize you basically went to a strip club and paid to have a group erection.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Good lord, binow. You're being really patronizing, among other things. Negrotown is not your personal soapbox, if you want to play leftier than thou find some white thread to hijack instead. Sorry, I'm in kind of a sour mood because [redacted] and it's bleeding into being more of an rear end in a top hat than usual. None of my posts are about "playing leftier than thou" though (Dollywood literally has a plantation theme to part of it--whitewashed in a "remember when life was so much simpler", etc. way--so this whole derail about her being a nice old grandma racist is bizarre). Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Unless she had to run somewhere Thanks, that mental image was horrifying. 
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biracial bear for uncut posted:This is a pretty weird thread for people to rally to the defense of a rural rich white woman, though. You should probably not grossly misrepresent people in any thread. quote:It's easy to be charitable when you do it with someone else's money. So you're against the entire concept of not for profit charities? I don't really understand what you're getting at here. Edit: Im sorry to hear about your cancer. I hope it's not serious.  Edit2: Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Unless she had to run somewhere She could just roll wherever she needs to go, as long as it's downhill.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Sorry, I'm in kind of a sour mood because I've got yet another loving run of cancer brewing up and it's bleeding into being more of an rear end in a top hat than usual. None of my posts are about "playing leftier than thou" though (Dollywood literally has a plantation theme to part of it--whitewashed in a "remember when life was so much simpler", etc. way--so this whole derail about her being a nice old grandma racist is bizarre). Sorry I called you binow, a person you are not. I got SA usernames mixed up. I have no experience with such a thing, but if I did I'm sure I would find it both stupid and annoying. I do want you to really listen to black people here though, because we have agency and we get to choose what we will and won't let slide. No one is perfect, everyone makes good and bad choices. We all get to draw our own lines about that. I'm really sorry about your cancer, I can't imagine how you must be feeling but it's more than anyone should have to bear.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Sorry, I'm in kind of a sour mood because I've got yet another loving run of cancer brewing up and it's bleeding into being more of an rear end in a top hat than usual. None of my posts are about "playing leftier than thou" though (Dollywood literally has a plantation theme to part of it--whitewashed in a "remember when life was so much simpler", etc. way--so this whole derail about her being a nice old grandma racist is bizarre). Hello fellow survivor. Ping me if you ever want to chat about the highs and lows of chemo, and exactly how much balls it sucks. Answer: All the balls. Like every ball you could conceive of. All the balls in discovered and undiscovered dimensions, universes, and realities.
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Who What Now posted:She could just roll wherever she needs to go, as long as it's downhill. Have you ever seen one of those old comedy movies where someone took a long fall down a hill and how messed up they were when they got to the bottom? Or one of those russian youtube videos where someone thought they'd be okay doing that and ended up with pretty much all of the skin scraped off? Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Sorry I called you binow, a person you are not. I got SA usernames mixed up. I have no experience with such a thing, but if I did I'm sure I would find it both stupid and annoying. Don't worry about it, my current name is like the custom title (I didn't pick it), some random mod was playing around and gave everyone that posted in a particular thread in GBS a rename (it's my own fault for posting in GBS). quote:I do want you to really listen to black people here though, because we have agency and we get to choose what we will and won't let slide. No one is perfect, everyone makes good and bad choices. We all get to draw our own lines about that. I don't think I've ever said anything against that. It was just weird from my perspective to see anyone defend the character of a rich white person, especially after the recent pages of (true assertions) that all white people in America are racist, and how it's pretty much a given that any rich white person you examine in America will have gotten there as a direct result of slavery. quote:*removed to minimize further derails* Not to poo poo on the sentiment, but if it's likely to derail the thread I'm going to go back and edit that bit out. EDIT: Also it's not my first time going through it; I know exactly how much it will suck. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Fluffdaddy posted:From what I understand, Washington didn't leave ANY direct descendents, but a few cousins and a lot of mixed children.  Let me know if you need lookups on anything behind any paywalls on ancestry I got a good deal on a subscription around Black Friday (don't have the newspapers/fold3 because every time they were free access I never found anything pertinent but I have world). Also I have myheritage but never found anything there that I couldn't on ancestry though it does link to more free sites like familysearch and wikitree. Also apparently there's a genealogy thread in DIY we can post in if this is getting too far offtopic. Oracle fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Oracle posted:
Check and see if I'm related to someone who did something badass during the Civil War, like burn down his slavers house tia
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I don't think I've ever said anything against that. It was just weird from my perspective to see anyone defend the character of a rich white person, especially after the recent pages of (true assertions) that all white people in America are racist, and how it's pretty much a given that any rich white person you examine in America will have gotten there as a direct result of slavery. Saying that is "saying anything against that." We are not obligated to be model minorities. We don't have to hold ourselves to higher standards than you do, and you don't get to tell us what standards to hold to. We have agency. We are independent from you.
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negromancer posted:Check and see if I'm related to someone who did something badass during the Civil War, like burn down his slavers house tia
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:All good but you shouldn't need to know anything about a woman to know she's more than just tits, because no woman is just tits. Noted! Also, https://mobile.twitter.com/ILLCapitano94/status/818546009928241153
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MariusLecter posted:Noted! Good, maybe the local theater will change their mind and give Hidden Figures more time slots this week (opening weekend they only got two time slots on one screen).
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MariusLecter posted:Noted! With almost 2000 less screens and a huge snowstorm in major metropolitan areas to boot. drat.
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negromancer posted:I got into electronica music watching videos of EVE Online. everyone loves Stahlregen's videos
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zegermans posted:everyone loves Stahlregen's videos
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Fun Fact: It was Dolly Parton that wrote "I will always love you" that Huston stole. poo poo, did I just expose reverse musical racism?  Seriously though, Parton likes Huston's version of the song more than hers and went to Huston's funeral because of it.
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Gringostar posted:Fun Fact: It was Dolly Parton that wrote "I will always love you" that Huston stole. She didn't loving steal it, it was remixed by David Foster and given to her.
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Koalas March posted:She didn't loving steal it, it was remixed by David Foster and given to her. Hi. I was making a joke. And yes I know it was rearranged by Foster at the request of Costner.
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It's Houston, by the way. Whitney Houston. Names matter.
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Gringostar posted:Hi. The reason that white people stealing culture from black people is ironically funny is the same reason any joke whose premise relies on a black person stealing something from a white person isn't funny.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:It's Houston, by the way. Whitney Houston. Names matter. drat I just noticed you were out of goon jail 
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Fluffdaddy posted:drat I just noticed you were out of goon jail And the first thing I see when I get out is you goodposting here in the anime and white indignance thread 
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Kind of on the topic of stealing black culture: Elvis. What's the opinion on him? My mixed gf has mentioned that her entire family hates the guy because he stole black music and claimed it as his own, especially Hound Dog (being stolen from Mama Rae). I've heard others claim that he brought black music more mainstream, and always claimed that he had influences from black musicians.
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Koalas March posted:She didn't loving steal it, it was remixed by David Foster and given to her. If anything it was musical reparations.
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seiferguy posted:Kind of on the topic of stealing black culture: Elvis. What's the opinion on him? My mixed gf has mentioned that her entire family hates the guy because he stole black music and claimed it as his own, especially Hound Dog (being stolen from Mama Rae). I've heard others claim that he brought black music more mainstream, and always claimed that he had influences from black musicians. Thats the basic excuse everyone uses for cultural appropriation and thievery. Brings it more mainstream makes it sound like white culture is the MAIN culture and everyone else's is the aberration. If his influences were black, he sure didn't do a good job of putting some money in some black folks pockets. It is almost a guarantee that if something hits white American mainstream, it was stolen from some other culture. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:And the first thing I see when I get out is you goodposting here in the anime and white indignance thread Every weekend is an exploration into the fragile white egosphere. Fluffdaddy fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Fluffdaddy posted:Every weekend is an exploration into the fragile white egosphere. Join Fluff Costeau as he delves deep into the terrors of the white abyss.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Thats the basic excuse everyone uses for cultural appropriation and thievery. Brings it more mainstream makes it sound like white culture is the MAIN culture and everyone else's is the aberration. Yeah, makes sense. I had seen the same excuse made when Fred Astaire wore blackface for Bojangles. He said he was honoring Bill Robinson, one of the best tap dancers ever. But Bill Robinson was alive at the time, so why couldn't he have invited Bill Robinson to tap dance with him in the movie? Does seem like an overall cop out.
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seiferguy posted:Kind of on the topic of stealing black culture: Elvis. What's the opinion on him? My mixed gf has mentioned that her entire family hates the guy because he stole black music and claimed it as his own, especially Hound Dog (being stolen from Mama Rae). I've heard others claim that he brought black music more mainstream, and always claimed that he had influences from black musicians. I never connected these dots in my mind before, but to me Elvis is kind of like Macklemore. These are guys who genuinely truly love the music they're influenced by, and the black artists who made it. Accusations of cultural appropriation leave them hurt and confused, because in their minds they're just adding to the body of work they already love. Since they're so aware of their black predecessors they assume their fans are too, but they aren't. There's a great bit in fellow complicated racial attitudes-having white culture-maker Steve Martin's autobiography, where Elvis meets him and compliments him on his "oblique sense of humor." Martin observes that Elvis had an oblique sense of humor too, but he kept it under wraps because his fans didn't get it. There's a lot about Elvis that his fans didn't get, and his awareness that he was but a pale imitation of the black rock and rollers he loved was a big one. There's also a fascinating but very hard to discuss concept with people who are angry that our idea of songs being "owned" is a very modern thing and just barely post-dates Elvis. There's a great, really can't recommend it enough book called How The Beatles Destroyed Rock and Roll that talks about the rise of the album vs. singles, and the concurrent shift in expectations of what a singer was - now it has to be someone who writes their own music and tells their own personal story ("a public expression of a private truth," to dig from my Rock history research pile again) rather than someone who just puts their voice on the Standards, a pre-existing body of work without an authorship that is much contemplated or discussed by the public that listens to it. All of that to longwindedly say that yes, Elvis "stole" songs and he shouldn't have done that, but he did not have our modern concept of what a song even was. Elvis is dead, so I ain't mad at him anymore. I leave that for the real history-ruiners, like Reagan.
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Nevvy Z posted:The reason that white people stealing culture from black people is ironically funny is the same reason any joke whose premise relies on a black person stealing something from a white person isn't funny. White people stealing from black people isn't funny though. Black people stealing from white people on the other hand isn't really stealing at this point. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:It's Houston, by the way. Whitney Houston. Names matter. Oh god damnit.
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Gringostar posted:Oh god damnit. Not that I didn't enjoy imagining Anjelica in Kevin Costner's arms, throwing drinks in his face while he whisks her away from the paparazzi.
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