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oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


Gorilla Salad posted:

Further confirmation, if more is needed, that Prompto truly is the most useless member of the band.

You shut up, Prompto's photos are my favorite part of this dumb game.

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
My combat enjoyment of Prompto is entirely reliant on his techs, really (Said the guy loving around with sidequests so much he's just hit chapter 6 at level 40. Without using any exp boosters outside of hotel stays).

Mostly when I want to hurt multiple people, but I find myself relying on his "Just shoot them" outlook in life in fights against stuff I'm used to Gladio loving up his pathfinding and depriving me of a sweet 9999 pop up, for example. "Gladio, buddy. Walk AROUND the giant crab corpse...welp that was sure worth two tech bars."

Also if you really hate Prompto, unlock his Star Shell tech ASAP. Because of course, they made the party member with the least HP the one with the taunt skill :v:

Section Z fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jan 5, 2017

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Prompto is the thing that makes the game work because he's, at least to me, what makes it clear that SOMEONE is in on the joke of how insane and dumb this game is

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Every group of friends has a Prompto. In my clique it was Dave, a bit more hyper than the rest of us, constantly quoting Beavis and Butthead and super into things the rest of us weren't, but he was just as much a part of the team as the rest of us even if he'd rather watch wrestling than play D&D.

E: If you don't know who the Prompto is in your group, it's you.

Bruceski fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jan 6, 2017

Bocc Kob
Oct 26, 2010
I'm starting to get on board with this game after the tonally bizarre "emotional" scenes of Noctis trying to deal with his country (city...?) being torn apart while he's dressed like a stupid rear end in a top hat.

dimenticon
Jun 16, 2014

Me irl, whatever, who cares

Bocc Kob posted:

I'm starting to get on board with this game after the tonally bizarre "emotional" scenes of Noctis trying to deal with his country (city...?) being torn apart while he's dressed like a stupid rear end in a top hat.

If a JRPG doesn't let you ruin character moments with dumb costumes or attachments it isn't worth playing.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
How many fashionable items can you unlock or get for your boy band?

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Did any pictures get taken on the return to City 17? Or are they lost forever now. It seemed to shunt you to Hammerhead immediately afterward, and all the most recent pictures are from there.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

At first, they were upset.

Then, they realized pushing the car was easier without Noct.

Over an hour's worth of "Looks like Noct was holding us back :iamafag:" jokes ensued.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer



This game is great.

e: not being sarcastic

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
Finally, I found the one I was actually looking for.

Ok this is enough from me :v:

Benson you've got to keep trying. You can cause an accident. Believe in yourself!

Lunethex fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jan 6, 2017

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
https://twitter.com/everglow8444/status/813843398469844993

dimenticon
Jun 16, 2014

Me irl, whatever, who cares

Scaramouche posted:

Did any pictures get taken on the return to City 17? Or are they lost forever now. It seemed to shunt you to Hammerhead immediately afterward, and all the most recent pictures are from there.

I'm surprised there weren't any taken during the cutscene on the cliff; I got at least one taken there but I guess it's random for everyone. The frequency might depend on Prompto's photo level, but he does take pictures during cutscenes he's around for (like of that fancy guy throwing coins at the resort).

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


dimenticon posted:

I'm surprised there weren't any taken during the cutscene on the cliff; I got at least one taken there but I guess it's random for everyone. The frequency might depend on Prompto's photo level, but he does take pictures during cutscenes he's around for (like of that fancy guy throwing coins at the resort).

I always figured the game didn't take any pictures there because prompto as actually being respectful and poo poo, and wasn't going to take pictures of noctis freaking out about his dad dying.

Lt. Conquistador
Oct 25, 2011

Because "Lieutenant" didn't fit.

oath2order posted:

I always figured the game didn't take any pictures there because prompto as actually being respectful and poo poo, and wasn't going to take pictures of noctis freaking out about his dad dying.

"My father...My kingdom...They're gone..."
"THAT'S IT! I've come up with a new recipe! :v:"

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010

:munch:

Lt. Conquistador posted:

"My father...My kingdom...They're gone..."
"THAT'S IT! I've come up with a new recipe! :v:"

Tears of the Fallen.

The ingredient is always on hand, just find a bottle!

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
When they're heading back to Insomnia and come across the cutscene roadblock with the mechs, they get around it by driving off road for a bit.

When you get control back, can you run back to the roadblock and fight the big robots?

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Gorilla Salad posted:

When they're heading back to Insomnia and come across the cutscene roadblock with the mechs, they get around it by driving off road for a bit.

When you get control back, can you run back to the roadblock and fight the big robots?

I don't know how immediately you can go there, but the closed road to Insomnia is an area that does exist and has enemies.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
I just love how soon after their entire lives were upended and ruined they were soon again casually playing games on their phones outside a Winnebago.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Lunethex posted:

I just love how soon after their entire lives were upended and ruined they were soon again casually playing games on their phones outside a Winnebago.

This game has about as much care and polish as far as maintaining the gravity of the situation as Bioshock Infinite.

White Coke
May 29, 2015

Lunethex posted:

I just love how soon after their entire lives were upended and ruined they were soon again casually playing games on their phones outside a Winnebago.

But now they're sad games, so it's character development.

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012

Lunethex posted:

I just love how soon after their entire lives were upended and ruined they were soon again casually playing games on their phones outside a Winnebago.

During the OSU terror attack, college students were posting dope photos of their classroom's shelter-in-place rigs, and in every photo with students in it they were all playing with their phones. Noctis' MySpace status update afterward was probably filled with a bunch of emo whining and very importantly letting us know he's listening to My Chemical Romance right now, and prompto probably just tweeted out sadface emoji dookie emoji to his 3 followers.

And then they all went back to candy crush.

topiKal
Mar 11, 2006

Rock Solid.
Heart Touching.
:frogsiren: DROPDATES :frogsiren:

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
I almost choked on food I was eating from laughing when Kuvo crashed the car. Also what is with the drop ships in this, do they appear by area or are they trying to simulate random encounters from the older games?

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
I hope you are ready for those dropships as according to others on the net they do not stop coming, people can't decide if it is just poor game design (likely) and/or they were trying to simulate random encounters in an open world environment. Either way you will be getting them dropping in often in the open world while doing quests and hunts.

A popular tactic seems to be to use magic attacks on them as they drop down as they are all bunched together in one group so you should hit all of them or most of them. So any sort of magic + aoe attack should hopefully kill them super quick.

Hope that helps in some way.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

Part that, part "the last heir and only thing stopping us from De Jure and De Facto rule of that country is down there is either helping our citizens live a better life, or just trying to get his rocks off for a reporter, let's kill 'em!"

That being said that seems brutal, I remember maybe having 2 drop ships popping up in rapid succession, but not that badly.

DFlux
Apr 25, 2008
Yeah the dropships happen because the empire is actively trying to kill your party. And yeah Magic makes the dropship troopers eat poo poo.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Fabulousvillain posted:

I almost choked on food I was eating from laughing when Kuvo crashed the car. Also what is with the drop ships in this, do they appear by area or are they trying to simulate random encounters from the older games?

They're actively trying to hunt you down. I'd assume you could see them coming if you can balance managing the chaos of battle and looking around at the sky occasionaly.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
Airship drops have two methods, and one variant.

A: They drop them off nowhere near you. So either you never notice them, or you double back for a quick curb stomping even if they are ten levels above you because the Empire are chumps :smug:

B: You're in the middle of trying to fight something you can't instantly murder normally, and it's the 3rd time they've airdropped more soldiers into the middle of your ongoing fight.

Bonus round: Instead of the stuff you can chump without magic, it's that one rear end in a top hat type magitech soldiers who Helicopter spin their way through your attacks and dodges. If you play smart and wait for proper openings, they carve up your boy band in the meantime if you don't accept nuking them alongside your team with lightning is a net gain (Because they airdropped them into the middle of your hunt again :v: )

FeyerbrandX posted:

That being said that seems brutal, I remember maybe having 2 drop ships popping up in rapid succession, but not that badly.

My current of record for interruptions is trying to do a Hunt fight, four airdrops full of Magitech Assholes, and wandering Coeurl joining in all at the same time. Then loving off as a fifth airship dropped a walker mech onto me while I was in the forced 'pause to catch breath' animation post fight to interrupt my sprinting

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.
https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/817543881856196608

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
What's supposed to happen is dropships spawn every time you cross certain boundaries.

This, uh, doesn't seem to work most of the time and the game just shits dropships all over you. This is fun, tbqh, all the way up until the Magitek Assassins start showing up. Then it's not fun anymore. Until you ram into the level cap with prejudice.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
Oh so they decided it was best to put a boundary on an area you have to search in circles for an item, great design. I guess it's less like random encounters and more like doing a crime in a Grand Theft Auto game and being punished by the police/FBI/national guard chasing you down, the crime is playing this game though.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Ok. Dropships. I will clarify the hint I made a while ago.

If you want to poo poo all over the game, and on groups of dropship troopers in particular, and be cost efficient while you're at it, combine 99 sheep's milk with 99 of any elemental energy when you're crafting magic. 99 sheep's milk costs 990 gil. This will get you 6 uses of dualcast -aga magic. Thundaga in particular is very useful for dealing with dropships.

It is up to the LPers whether you wish to use this power.

dimenticon
Jun 16, 2014

Me irl, whatever, who cares
The boundaries thing makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider people having multiple ships drop on them in a fight cus they're hopping a boundary line a bunch over the course of the fight. They're pretty fun imo, the battle system is a lot of fun to be good at when in a clusterfuck of a dropship, a hunt, and a pack of wild animals.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
I do think the combat looks pretty fun and drop ships from entering boundaries make sense, until the game asks you to search in a circle with a boundary line through it where you'll inevitably cross it over and over again resulting in 4 encounters in one area with hardly any time to search for the item you can't pick up because picking up rocks in combat is too hard. Then I start having a problem.

Samuel L. Chan
May 13, 2007

Smoking marijuana, eating Cheese Doodles, and masturbating do not constitute 'plans' in my book!
From my playthrough and what I've seen in other videos, this quest in particular is the worst for potential drop ship spam so at least there's that

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
In various videos of this I've seen some high class food porn of Ignis actually making the dish or whatev

Is that actually a thing in game or what

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Samuel L. Chan posted:

From my playthrough and what I've seen in other videos, this quest in particular is the worst for potential drop ship spam so at least there's that

Sounds like an easy way to farm XP with an endless stream of scrub tier enemies to me.

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