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I feel like I'm fuckin' up, but I haven't seen anything I can get involved with until like the 23rd of january out here in wny. There's a $500 per person dinner tonight, but I don't have 500 bucks to spend on that I'm really heartened to see all these elections changing things, though. These local parties all need to be better!
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Grondoth posted:I feel like I'm fuckin' up, but I haven't seen anything I can get involved with until like the 23rd of january out here in wny. There's a $500 per person dinner tonight, but I don't have 500 bucks to spend on that that's so democrats
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Grondoth posted:I feel like I'm fuckin' up, but I haven't seen anything I can get involved with until like the 23rd of january out here in wny. There's a $500 per person dinner tonight, but I don't have 500 bucks to spend on that Sounds like a good time to "reform" your dem party. Grab some friends, hold open meetings, register candidates, primary bitches.
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Grondoth posted:I feel like I'm fuckin' up, but I haven't seen anything I can get involved with until like the 23rd of january out here in wny. There's a $500 per person dinner tonight, but I don't have 500 bucks to spend on that I dunno where you happen to be, but out in California the best way to get involved is in local democratic clubs. For example, I went to my State, California, http://www.cadem.org/, found the county listing, http://www.cadem.org/our-party/our-county-committees, went to my county, http://acdems.org/, then went to their club page, http://acdems.org/clubs/. From there you can check the websites, or make some calls or send some emails. There should be something roughly equivalent wherever you are, although since some places are much better organized than others, you truly might be SOL.
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Lemming posted:I dunno where you happen to be, but out in California the best way to get involved is in local democratic clubs. For example, I went to my State, California, http://www.cadem.org/, found the county listing, http://www.cadem.org/our-party/our-county-committees, went to my county, http://acdems.org/, then went to their club page, http://acdems.org/clubs/. From there you can check the websites, or make some calls or send some emails. There should be something roughly equivalent wherever you are, although since some places are much better organized than others, you truly might be SOL. http://ecdems.com/ this is my county's webpage. I learned about the free event on the 23rd from their facebook. They are still ready for hillary.
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Grondoth posted:http://ecdems.com/ this is my county's webpage. I learned about the free event on the 23rd from their facebook. Lol, jesus, what a useless pile. From some quick googling, maybe try here? http://www.wnyprogress.org/index.html There's a slightly earlier meeting, at least. Maybe send someone there an email
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Grondoth posted:http://ecdems.com/ this is my county's webpage. I learned about the free event on the 23rd from their facebook. Ah the wonders of the NY Democratic party. Assholes. My advice to you would be to shop around, county by county, website by website, to see if there's a more inclusive local Dem party that's within a comfortable distance, and try going to their events. While there, maybe try asking around about your county. I'm of the opinion that most of the NY Dem apparatus is purposefully poo poo in order to keep it as a good ol' boys club.
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found a semi-complete list of CA ADEM results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MRMu7qklC-8boWbid4ETHvIA0jnfMjo4WfTStYdNKIk/edit#gid=0 there's a few results that haven't come in yet but it's looking like progressive candidates won a majority of delegate and executive board seats, with many districts having most or all of their delegates primaried in favor of progressive slate candidates.
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Grondoth posted:http://ecdems.com/ this is my county's webpage. I learned about the free event on the 23rd from their facebook. Ok, this really sucks, but you might be in a position to be a real troublemaker if you can learn the bylaws and other rules. That said, it may not just be people trying to keep you out, it's probably also apathy and incompetence.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Ok, this really sucks, but you might be in a position to be a real troublemaker if you can learn the bylaws and other rules. I think that 99% of the time it's just apathy and inertia, from old establishment Dems in districts either too blue to be challenged in or too red to have a chance in, and don't put in the effort to make things more accessible because new blood is hard to come by in the first place. I'm really hopeful that the success in the CA elections can be repeated elsewhere because those turnout numbers were huge; hundreds of people who don't usually participate in local politics suddenly showed up to vote for outsider candidates and shook things up immediately. Most American politicians depend on political apathy/inertia and a sudden influx of new blood can change things very quickly.
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HorseRenoir posted:I think that 99% of the time it's just apathy and inertia, from old establishment Dems in districts either too blue to be challenged in or too red to have a chance in, and don't put in the effort to make things more accessible because new blood is hard to come by in the first place. I'm really hopeful that the success in the CA elections can be repeated elsewhere because those turnout numbers were huge; hundreds of people who don't usually participate in local politics suddenly showed up to vote for outsider candidates and shook things up immediately. Most American politicians depend on political apathy/inertia and a sudden influx of new blood can change things very quickly. I think it's not entirely just apathy. I don't think people are necessarily thinking about it like a scheme, but the biggest threat to someone entrenched within the party is people participating at the party level, rather than just showing up to volunteer/phone bank/knock on doors/whatever. Getting increased membership in clubs and showing up to county meetings is the only way they get knocked out of place, so I'm guessing trying to get people to show up to those isn't a huge priority for them. It's what makes them weak, though.
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Went to the Town Meeting tonight. First time doing anything with local politics. Very interesting. I voted on stuff, heard people talk about the town budget. Glad I went to this instead of the DSA meeting, but definitely need to try the DSA meeting next month. They also asked for volunteers for Town Board and I considered it... but what time I have is gonna need to go into Dem party reformations, I think, so probably not the place for me right now. Got my first local Democratic Party meeting on Thursday, looking forward to it.
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Here's a pretty interesting article on how to organize a takeover of local Dem parties on the precinct level: https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2017/01/09/how-to-take-over-your-local-democratic-party-step-by-step/#more-11951 It's primarily focused on NC but I'd imagine that a lot of it useful for organizing in other states as well.
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Didn't think I'd ever register democrat. Changed my mind, registered on site, and then roused enough of my non-democrat friends to put our hardcore labor rights socialist genuine motherfucker as the top vote getter. Garbage choices for the executive roles, so all my friends just left that stuff blank and bullet voted for the hardcore folks who we personally know. It was hard and confusing, so the way we figured it out was that there was only one slate that had our man, and we refused all other slates lacking that name, so we got to vote for the right people, I think. As the current chairperson and other folks spoke to try to organize us and talk to us as the party as it is, everyone in the audience was coughing and making gentle noises to show subtle disapproval. There were no mics, so it really showed a mood among the ultra bernie progressives. They came out, they conquered. District: California, rural, ag. Heavy D leaning. A longtime conveyor belt from local school board to state level positions, and pretty much dominated by hacks who literally got their party position passed down from their father/mother dynastically. Despite incompetence.
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Martin Random posted:Didn't think I'd ever register democrat. Changed my mind, registered on site, and then roused enough of my non-democrat friends to put our hardcore labor rights socialist genuine motherfucker as the top vote getter. Garbage choices for the executive roles, so all my friends just left that stuff blank and bullet voted for the hardcore folks who we personally know. It was hard and confusing, so the way we figured it out was that there was only one slate that had our man, and we refused all other slates lacking that name, so we got to vote for the right people, I think. Hell yeah. The Democrats as a party are absurdly way weaker than they appear, it's pretty stunning how much you can accomplish by showing up. Nice work.
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I went to the Boston DSA meeting as promised! Here's what I found and can still remember, at least of the things people have asked me about / probably might want to know: - Demographically speaking, the group is mostly T-accessible folks in their 20s and 30s, though there were some much older people there. Mostly white, though there was a small amount of people of color and LGBTQ folk there. - Of the 75-100 people in the room, I would guess 80% of us were at our first meeting? I get the impression that the Boston chapter of the DSA is fairly new to begin with though, and therefore the influx of people will have a decent say in the direction the group goes in the future. - Relatedly, the place that meetings normally happen in was way too small, so they're looking for a new one. - Since so many of the people there were new, the meeting was very newbie-oriented, with discussions about what the DSA is and what it does, and discussions about how to get more involved with the various working groups they have active. - Politically speaking, I got the impression that most of the newbies were "Bernie Would Have Won" Democrats, though there were certainly some voices in the crowd giving textbook Full Communism Now (Marxist? Leninist? I dunno) answers to some of the "what do you think DSA is?"-type questions. Nobody directly uttered the phrase "seize the means of production" while I was there, but a small minority of people were giving answers that were clearly couched in that sort of terminology. - The organization as a whole definitely sounds like they are okay with you mixing your idpol with your ecpol -- they're not quite "No War But the Class War", and they even advertise things like a queer/trans rights rally going on this weekend, but they are also very quick to point out that idpol affects you differently based on ecpol. - They have 3 working groups going on right now: -- an Education working group, focusing on teaching more people internally and externally about socialist theory, and how to get the word out to friends and family in regular conversation -- a Coalition Building working group, that focuses on getting people into other organizations, and working on activism with those groups (like the various socialist groups in the area, the progressive Dems / Our Revolution types, as well as single-issue groups like Fight for 15) -- a Tech working group, mostly focusing on data security for DSA itself, best practices, that sort of thing Those 3 groups are meeting at various times this week and next, while the greater organization is next meeting in February. - They sounded very pragmatic in their approach -- trying to push for more actually-socialist candidates at the lower levels, while supporting progressive (not neoliberal) candidates for higher office if a viable socialist option is not available. This usually means working with the Democrats, though Greens and obviously Socialist Party / IWW / etc. members are always welcome. They didn't talk about any new candidates that they're actively supporting, though that's largely because the election just happened, and so much of this meeting was intro-focused. - As far as issues are concerned, Fight for 15, a Paid Sick Leave bill, and a Millionaire Tax that would support education are the big voter topics that we ended up talking about at that meeting -- there were handouts from raiseupma.org about those issues. Beyond that, they are strongly pushing for immigration rights, climate change matters, and worker's rights in general. They've also talked a bit about ranked-choice voting, though that's lower priority for now. The one thing we did cover as more of a deep dive was a discussion about Fight for 15, including a roleplaying exercise where people would act out the conversation with a skeptic who asks you about how small businesses will all die because of the $15 minimum wage. That was fun, and I think the Education subgroup does more of that, so if I end up sticking around that might be where I'll end up -- I'm a complete noob at this sort of thing, and that sounds like a good place for me to gain skills in spreading the good word about the class struggle. Even if you're not directly excited about socialism as a concept, they definitely seem like a great springboard for jumping into various other groups, especially since so many people in there have connections to many of the single-issue groups in MA. At the same time, if your goal is to reform the Democratic Party from within, you'd still probably want to go to Dem town / county / etc. meetings as well. DSA will certainly phonebank for advocate for progressive candidates, but you've still gotta be a Democrat to push the Dems around from within. GlyphGryph posted:Hey I figured setting up a discord room would be cool if anyone is interested. Also, this thing is great. Chat rooms for things other than terrible (or even some not terrible!) MMOs are so good. Taran has issued a correction as of 15:54 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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GlyphGryph posted:Went to the Town Meeting tonight. First time doing anything with local politics. Very interesting. I voted on stuff, heard people talk about the town budget. Glad I went to this instead of the DSA meeting, but definitely need to try the DSA meeting next month. They also asked for volunteers for Town Board and I considered it... but what time I have is gonna need to go into Dem party reformations, I think, so probably not the place for me right now. Went to my town meeting as well. It was packed, but wasn't a "everyone" votes kind of meeting, just the usual board doing town things. This is less for you but toward NE goons in general - just know that our politics do start off terribly local, so you won't get the sweet county results like you saw for CA for the most part. Work with the party, show your worth and you note that, at least personally in my town, a lot of the active democrats are already progressive, but just need more local support to push out what they want implemented.
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Word came in on Monday of some hosed up "busing in voters with prepared ballots" style corruption in SF from the establishment slate. They still lost, but you can see the lengths to which they will go to try to hang on to power.
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I wasn't able to attend the ADEM voting thing because I was still pretty sick on Sunday but I'm glad to hear that statewide the progressives are doing well.
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Did we ever find out why the Massachusetts Dems capitulated and bent so hard over MJ legalization and pushed back the start date so far?
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Fart of Darkness posted:Another Kentucky goon here. There really seems to be no local organization at all. You can get started by joining a facebook group called "Kentucky Bernie Delegate Coordination." Lots of groups over the Commonwealth have sprung from there. In Louisville there is the Louisville Socialists, the DSA (just kicked off). In Lexington there is the Kentucky Workers League. Kentucky Progressive Coalition might actually amount to something, we shall see. It's supposed to be a statewide organization. I focus mostly on local things. In other Ky news, we got hosed over hard last Saturday. Right work, various abortion restrictions bills, and other nonsense passed.
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Pollyanna posted:Did we ever find out why the Massachusetts Dems capitulated and bent so hard over MJ legalization and pushed back the start date so far? My guess is because establishment Dems by and large see marijuana legalization advocates in the same way that Republicans do: they're all that one really annoying guy from your dorm who constantly continually unrelentingly talked about weed and had stereotypical white guy dreads that were more dirt and hair oil than dread. Also law enforcement and police unions.
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bump_fn posted:The DNC is hosting four regional forums featuring candidates for Chair and the other officer positions. The tentative schedule for the forums is: Update, from what I can tell, it's only going to be on the 14th. RSVP Here: https://my.democrats.org/page/signup/phoenix-dnc-regional-future-forum-rsvp quote:Thank you for registering to attend the DNC Regional Future Forum in Phoenix this coming Saturday, January 14th.
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Got me and my fiance on the central committee for our county party(Washoe County, NV). I know I am a salt cynic but we're going to vote some people into the executive board.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Update, from what I can tell, it's only going to be on the 14th. Figures it starts that early. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it in. 
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ZeeToo posted:Figures it starts that early. Here's more details, don't despair! quote:PHOENIX – On January 14, the Democratic National Committee will hold its first of four regional DNC Future Forums in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Is it proper to talk about local rallies cause I got an email about one this Sunday in Chicago presumably they're happening all over On Sunday, January 15, Democratic members of Congress, trade unions, senior groups, health care activists and all those who believe in economic and social justice are organizing a day of action called “Our First Stand: Save Health Care.” Rallies will be held in communities around the country. Our First Stand Rally With Sen. Dick Durbin & Rep. Jan Schakowsky Sunday, January 15ᵗʰ at 1:00 pm CST Central SEIU Healthcare HQ 2229 South Halsted Street Chicago, IL 60661
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https://berniesanders.com/ourfirststand/ Here's a link to those rallies on Bernie Sanders' website. If you click "Find A Rally Near You" you can, well, find a rally near you. Doesn't look like there's any in my area, sadly, but I might bring it up at the meeting tomorrow and see if anyone knows anything about it.
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Grognan posted:Got me and my fiance on the central committee for our county party(Washoe County, NV). I know I am a salt cynic but we're going to vote some people into the executive board. Speaking of posts like these, is there a good place to find news on local Dem party elections like this? I've been searching and haven't found much outside of a few states, and I'm not sure if that's due to a lack of organization or if the elections haven't happened yet. The next month or so is going to be critical for getting progressives inside the Dems' internal power structures and it would be nice to know where we stand as a whole.
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It's great to read this stuff about people taking over their local parties. I feel kinda demoralized though. Whoever Dems run in my town get blown outta the water. They haven't even been to field a full slate since 2008. I'm unsure what to do.
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OhFunny posted:It's great to read this stuff about people taking over their local parties. The key to turning over a local area is finding relevant, local issues and pressing them. (garbage dump? local lake polluted? no play areas for kids? walmart blighted commercial district?) Once people start buying into the platform, then more get involved and you get more candidates for local/state offices. But its hard to get that ball rolling. Damned hard. Do you have any nearby counties that aren't dead zones for Dems? Reaching out to them or the state party may get some resources diverted to help. If you live in a red hellscape though...welp. The good news is that it's probably been screwed up tremendously in some garish fashion, so you can find leverage issues easier. The bad news is that you'll have to crowdsource or self-support. Maybe get in touch with DSA if there are any likeminded folks?
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HorseRenoir posted:Speaking of posts like these, is there a good place to find news on local Dem party elections like this? I've been searching and haven't found much outside of a few states, and I'm not sure if that's due to a lack of organization or if the elections haven't happened yet. The next month or so is going to be critical for getting progressives inside the Dems' internal power structures and it would be nice to know where we stand as a whole. It's reeally hard to find this stuff out yourself. Your best bet is to try to physically show up somewhere and try to find out from people who know.
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Syndlig posted:https://berniesanders.com/ourfirststand/ Here's a link to those rallies on Bernie Sanders' website. If you click "Find A Rally Near You" you can, well, find a rally near you. Doesn't look like there's any in my area, sadly, but I might bring it up at the meeting tomorrow and see if anyone knows anything about it. i figured there'd be something like this im gonna go if only to refer to dick durbin as dick dorkins
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Syndlig posted:https://berniesanders.com/ourfirststand/ Here's a link to those rallies on Bernie Sanders' website. If you click "Find A Rally Near You" you can, well, find a rally near you. Doesn't look like there's any in my area, sadly, but I might bring it up at the meeting tomorrow and see if anyone knows anything about it. There's one at the VA in Buffalo if anyone's in WNY and have no fuckin' idea what to do, like me
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