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remusclaw posted:\ Maybe that's part of the "weeding out" process. Not willing or able to travel a few hundred light years to take an in-person class? Maybe our space exploration agency is not for you.
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After The War posted:But then we wouldn't get extremely Why would you even feel the need to live in San Francisco when you can just do this?
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stories like how babby Sisko transported home for dinner every night his first week.
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The transporter thing makes me wonder about things. Putting aside new Scotty and whatever he may have done with long distance transport, you would think that for the sake of quick travel there would transport relays all over the Fed to allow people to be wherever they are needed pretty much immediately. Extrapolating Trek tech would be an interesting world(universe) building exercise.
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remusclaw posted:Extrapolating Trek tech would be an interesting world(universe) building exercise. Everyone on Voyager should have just used the Scotty Transporter Buffer Trick while the ship autopilots itself in a beeline home.
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remusclaw posted:The transporter thing makes me wonder about things. Putting aside new Scotty and whatever he may have done with long distance transport, you would think that for the sake of quick travel there would transport relays all over the Fed to allow people to be wherever they are needed pretty much immediately. Extrapolating Trek tech would be an interesting world(universe) building exercise. This was one thing I liked about SG-1 and Atlantis - aside from travelling to another galaxy (mostly) and a few other circumstances, just dial up any stargate anywhere in the network, and you're there in one shot. I feel like the Trek version would be huge chains of relays, but only between heavily travelled planets, otherwise it would get ridiculous quick.
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Deathwing posted:This was one thing I liked about SG-1 and Atlantis - aside from travelling to another galaxy (mostly) and a few other circumstances, just dial up any stargate anywhere in the network, and you're there in one shot. They wound up doing the relay thing in Stargate to try and get around not being able to gate to other galaxies on the regular. Stargates from uninhabited worlds were placed in a row in the space between the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies. http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/McKay/Carter_Intergalactic_Gate_Bridge 
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egon_beeblebrox posted:
Why would anyone willingly strand themselves at sea with Trekkies? Not just any Trekkies either, Trekkies who go on cruises. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Why would anyone willingly strand themselves at sea with Trekkies? Not just any Trekkies either, Trekkies who go on cruises. Picture it now, waves and waves and waves exploding at them. Can you imagine the pleasure?
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egon_beeblebrox posted:
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The worst part about Neelix is that Ethan Phillips is a really cool and friendly dude who deserved a much less lovely role, and he tried to make the most of it.
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remusclaw posted:The same way the extremely talented on his way up First Officer never moves onto his own command. Can you imagine how much it must piss off all the junior officers that he won't get out of the way? 1st Officer on the Federation's flagship is an extremely prestigious position that would lead to any command you could think of. And this rear end in a top hat's hogging it for drat near 20 years.
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Except Data was next in line and as progressive as the Federation is I don't see them giving an android a command.
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Lt. Cmdr. Shelby certainly wasn't thrilled with Riker refusing commands.
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remusclaw posted:The transporter thing makes me wonder about things. Putting aside new Scotty and whatever he may have done with long distance transport, you would think that for the sake of quick travel there would transport relays all over the Fed to allow people to be wherever they are needed pretty much immediately. Extrapolating Trek tech would be an interesting world(universe) building exercise. I expect there'd be relays from Earth to Moon, or even Earth to Mars, but... Okay they usually say transporters are about 40k km range. Earth to Moon would be 10 relays. Earth to Mars would be 10,000 relays. Earth to Vulcan - a very close star system - would be 3,785,000,000 relays. Space big. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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Earth to Moon would still be doable. Pop in fifteen (because the Feds are safety conscious and would build in redundancy) or so satellites between earth orbit and the moon and you're all set. Anything further than that? Yeah, that's why we still need starships.
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jng2058 posted:Earth to Moon would still be doable. Pop in fifteen (because the Feds are safety conscious and would build in redundancy) or so satellites between earth orbit and the moon and you're all set. On the new U Scotty, Spock claims that old Scotty invented that kind of beaming. Was that in the series? Was it something he was supposed to have done after turning up in Next Gen?
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Actually in trek there's no sense of scale at all so they could just say there's 1 relay to get to the moon, 2 to mars, and 5 to other star systems and it would be canon.
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TheBigAristotle posted:He's got Eugene Tooms eyes. I lol'd and shuttered at the same time
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remusclaw posted:On the new U Scotty, Spock claims that old Scotty invented that kind of beaming. Was that in the series? Was it something he was supposed to have done after turning up in Next Gen? I think it was intended to be post-next-gen-movies that Scotty did it, but the tech does actually does turn up on Next Gen in the episode with Picard's fake son. Apparently it was abandoned for unreliability. That was Season 7, so it's entirely possible that Scotty helped develop it in the past year or so after he popped out of the Dyson Sphere. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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Namaer posted:Except Data was next in line and as progressive as the Federation is I don't see them giving an android a command. No, Data wouldn't seek the position. He doesn't want things like that, he has no ego to placate.
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Namaer posted:Except Data was next in line and as progressive as the Federation is I don't see them giving an android a command. WampaLord posted:No, Data wouldn't seek the position. He doesn't want things like that, he has no ego to placate. I think there was some book that had a scene where Riker had a personal "gently caress me, I'm being an rear end in a top hat" moment about this very thing. He realized that a non-zero percent reason why he delayed being promoted was because he unconsciously knew good-ol unemotional Data wasn't nipping at his heels to replace him. If he had a Shelby working with him full-time, there'd be a consistent pressure to vacate the First Officer spot. But Data wasn't that person.
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A Data in command arc could have been cool. He develops more as he has to make command decisions that risk people's lives. He loses crew members and begins to process something similar to grief. A faint hint of the thrill of victory could start driving him.
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MisterBibs posted:I think there was some book that had a scene where Riker had a personal "gently caress me, I'm being an rear end in a top hat" moment about this very thing. He realized that a non-zero percent reason why he delayed being promoted was because he unconsciously knew good-ol unemotional Data wasn't nipping at his heels to replace him. If he had a Shelby working with him full-time, there'd be a consistent pressure to vacate the First Officer spot. But Data wasn't that person. I think that was Vendetta, when the Federation was scrambling to battle the new planet-killer and Riker encountered Shelby again.
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I like when data was in command and his lovely racist first officer was useless and doubted him and practically had to be threatened with arrest and then data saves the day with actually really good command.
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Baronjutter posted:I like when data was in command and his lovely racist first officer was useless and doubted him and practically had to be threatened with arrest and then data saves the day with actually really good command. Bonus points for realizing that the best way to make the racist first officer do what he want was act like he was going to beat the poo poo out of him if he didn't do what he ordered.
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Baronjutter posted:I like when data was in command and his lovely racist first officer was useless and doubted him and practically had to be threatened with arrest and then data saves the day with actually really good command. Redemption is only so-so and I'm not a huge Data fan, but I love this moment too. The whole concept of the crew getting split up and taking their own commands in a fleet is a pretty cool one and I wonder if they'll go in something like that direction with Discovery. All the main characters having totally stagnant careers where they keep the exact same job and rank for years and years with maybe one or two new officers getting introduced is one of the weirdest recurring elements of Trek to me, I get why it happened in 90s tv but surely they have an opportunity now to do something a little more dynamic.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:
"YOU! THE ONE WHO IS EATING! EXPERIENCE BIJ!"
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Do teens on Federation worlds rebel by being pro-Borg. Like threatening to join the Borg, Borg metal bands, and so on.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Do teens on Federation worlds rebel by being pro-Borg. Like threatening to join the Borg, Borg metal bands, and so on. I like to think that some do, but 90% grow out of it, and the 10% that don't are summarily rejected by the Borg for not proving any benefit to the Collective. Now I've got the mental image of some pasty white late-teen trying desperately to make the Borg attack/assimilate him, but can't.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Do teens on Federation worlds rebel by being pro-Borg. Like threatening to join the Borg, Borg metal bands, and so on. Vortacore
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Blast Fantasto posted:Vortacore I wonder if the ironic "I want to be eaten by a Vorta, it's my fetish" teens ever get into fights with the ironic "I totally believe in the Romulan version of Eden" teens over terminology.
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Namaer posted:Just watched The Arsenal of Freedom and Riker mentions he was offered a command out of the academy but opted to serve on the Enterprise instead. Wait, what? That can't be right. Encounter at Farpoint had him coming highly recommended from Captain DeSoto of the Hood. ...wow, you're right. But like Big Mean Jerk said, that first season was all kinds of hosed.
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I don't care what anyone else thinks, i fuckin' love the big throttle lever from The Motion Picture and I'm sad it was only ever in that one movie. 
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Sulu has a throttle in Nu Trek. I just watched Conspiracy and the ending was insane. How did that air on broadcast television?
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Kazinsal posted:The worst part about Neelix is that Ethan Phillips is a really cool and friendly dude who deserved a much less lovely role, and he tried to make the most of it. Neelix got much more tolerable after Kes left the show. He even had a decent episode before that (Jetrel).
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