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Namaer posted:Sulu has a throttle in Nu Trek. First-run syndication means no network censors to report to.
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This Insurrection commentary with Sirtis and Frakes is amazing. Apparently the Enterprise joystick was a Rick Berman idea because "he thought it would appeal to the youth". 
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Jan 11, 2017 07:19
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This Insurrection commentary with Sirtis and Frakes is amazing. Apparently the Enterprise joystick was a Rick Berman idea because "he thought it would appeal to the youth". This movie looks like poo poo let's go skateb-IS THAT A JOYSTICK TUBULAR
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Jan 11, 2017 07:22
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Lord Krangdar posted:Do teens on Federation worlds rebel by being pro-Borg. Like threatening to join the Borg, Borg metal bands, and so on. Didn't the Doctor's fake family's son end up hanging out with Klingons?
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Kingtheninja posted:I think the 09 trek comic had data running the enterprise (I think it was supposed to be a Canon comic too?). Yeah they had reconstituted him in B4's body and he was kind of a dick. It's not really canon though as it was a prelude to the film that wiped out the TNG future.
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Jan 11, 2017 07:39
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I'm just starting the first episode of season 2 of TNG and the jump in quality is enormous. There is actual camera movement and there's attention being paid to lighting.
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Jan 11, 2017 07:56
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I honestly do not understand why the S1 bridge scenes are so overlit. How does no one in the entire production speak up and go "Uh, guys....?"
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Jan 11, 2017 07:59
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This Insurrection commentary with Sirtis and Frakes is amazing. Apparently the Enterprise joystick was a Rick Berman idea because "he thought it would appeal to the youth". The Fifty-Year Mission quotes Berman as claiming to have no idea why Nemesis bombed.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I honestly do not understand why the S1 bridge scenes are so overlit. How does no one in the entire production speak up and go "Uh, guys....?" They were probably in mortal fear of being summarily fired.
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Jan 11, 2017 08:06
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The Fifty-Year Mission quotes Berman as claiming to have no idea why Nemesis bombed. I'm really looking forward to Berman's comments on the Voyager and Enterprise years. He's clearly an intelligent guy when it comes to navigating studio politics, but he's either intentionally apathetic or blissfully unaware of how to manage his top-billed cast and keep them from derailing projects as the franchise went on. Nemesis in particular sounds like he had completely given up on controlling Stewart and Spiner.
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Jan 11, 2017 08:14
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So I'm watching Enterprise now. I'm legitimately laughing out loud every episode when there's a dramatic opening teaser and then it just slams right to that intro song, its incredible.
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Zesty Crab Legs posted:Neelix got much more tolerable after Kes left the show. He even had a decent episode before that (Jetrel). Jetrel was probably the best bit of acting he ever did on the show. Ethan Phillips is definitely a nice enough guy who should have been given a better role.
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I just saw a news story that explained how when the Verizon purchase of Yahoo is finalized, Yahoo will be changing it's name to Altaba and will fire it's CEO, Marissa Mayer. Altaba sounds suspiciously like some fringe Alpa Quadrant planet that's petitioning membership into the Federation. I don't like it. I don't like it at all.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I could absolutely buy that Barclay just breezed through tests and exams, and it's the real world where he has trouble. That happens in real life. Well, part of the problem is he has a mental illness in a society that allegedly cured that sort of thing a hundred years ago. Dude obviously has some sort of anxiety disorder, but everyone just treats him like the weird kid at school. His "holo addiction" is an unhealthy coping mechanism (Troi even says so), but no one seems particularly troubled by the fact that whatever issues he's been coping with have been dogging him at least as long as he was on the Enterprise and they're just now noticing. He never gets any real help. They all just feel bad for picking on him and try to include him more. Troi's "therapy" session is loving absurd even if you don't know how that sort of thing is supposed to go and mind boggling if you do. She spends the whole time acting like an HR director pretending to to be an employee's friend so she can figure out if she has to fire him and, despite being an empath (and, you know, female), has no idea why the lonely, male social anxiety patient seems uncomfortable when she sits next to him in a cleavage leotard. This baffling indifference to basic psychology happens all the time on the Enterprise. Children are orphaned and left to stay, alone, in their parent's room (I think this happens twice, actually). Worf tries to kill himself twice because he can't cope with "insanity"/disability and both times no one picks up on it until the knife's in his hand. Picard endures horrific trauma (and has blatant PTSD) and only takes a week off work. Every loving anomaly episode, someone sees some crazy poo poo in the corridor and doesn't report it because they think they're just seeing things. Why the gently caress don't they report that they're seeing things? Are stress induced hallucinations normal? Is mental illness so stigmatized in the future that everyone would rather go untreated than risk being thought of as "crazy?" Real loving progressive, Star Trek. It's just loving outrageous to me that a show that has a psychiatrist (well, "counselor") as a main character, literally never had a character suffering from a real mental illness that was identified as such. Everything Troi treats people for is situational -- grief, loneliness, workplace stress, that sort of thing -- but chronic mental illness basically doesn't exist in TNG (and wasn't exactly handled well in DS9). Sure there was space madness and alien diseases, but, apparently, anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress, schizophrenia, and a whole raft of other ailments simply don't exist anymore (even though various characters seem to have them).
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The shallow view of mental illness that the writers of the show had made them just assume as part of the setting that all mental illnesses that weren't situational would be 'cured' by the 24th century no problemo nothing to see here. Part of that was the idea that psychiatrists like Troi were so omnipresent that stuff like anxiety disorders and depression could be nipped in the bud (as if that were all it took) And of course they had no loving idea that the hilarious lolawkward poo poo they gave Barclay were signs of a disorder. Just hah aren't awkward people funny.
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MikeJF posted:The shallow view of mental illness that the writers of the show had made them just assume as part of the setting that all mental illnesses that weren't situational would be 'cured' by the 24th century no problemo nothing to see here. Part of that was the idea that psychiatrists like Troi were so omnipresent that stuff like anxiety disorders and depression could be nipped in the bud (as if that were all it took) And just aside, I can't credit Dwight Schultz enough for acting the hell out of the Barclay character.
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Pwnstar posted:So I'm watching Enterprise now. I'm legitimately laughing out loud every episode when there's a dramatic opening teaser and then it just slams right to that intro song, its incredible. Just wait until the third season. The song gets twangier & happier sounding and even more jarring because the season is GRIM and DARK for the most part. Wheezle posted:And just aside, I can't credit Dwight Schultz enough for acting the hell out of the Barclay character. He saved a bunch of Voyager episodes just by being in them. Barclay turns out to be a great character in the end, and it's mostly due to Shultz's acting.
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Barclay is great because he's not a perfect Star Fleet human and his interactions with others expose the fact that they aren't either. Most of the main cast are total dicks to him in that first episode and even the ones that try to be nice, like Geordie and Troi, still treat him like a square peg that needs to stop whining and get back into its round hole. Anyone who's been an outsider in school or work can instantly relate to that feeling of being miserable and overlooked and only seeming to get noticed when you screw up. Early TNG treated its characters, especially the junior officers, like well-oiled little cogs in an immaculate machine and the closest any of them came to having actual problems was Wesley getting teen angsty sometimes. It was incredibly refreshing to see the writers finally acknowledge that emotional distress wasn't something people (or species) just grow out of. What's really interesting is that even though a lot of the cast comes of as pretty clueless in that episode (especially Troi), seeing them utterly flail when confronted with a basic social challenge like what to do about an unreliable coworker is actually really refreshing. I'm hardly the first person to comment on the how off-puttingly cliquish of the TNG cast was (also a big part of Lower Decks) and I think acknowledging it for what it was helps humanize them. If all the junior officers are happy with just following orders and being left out of the staff meetings and poker games, then being this tight-knit inner circle is just the natural order of things, but if other characters aren't happy with being excluded or treated like nameless functionaries, then the cliquishness becomes a character flaw they have to overcome. A little thing like that often leads to more actual character growth than tragic backstories, daddy issues, or metaphorical rapes ever could. Of course, later on, we get the exact opposite message with Blue Shirt Picard, who apparently deserved to be overlooked and excluded because he's just too boring. But, eh, c'est le Trek. Also gonna agree on the Shultz love. In lesser hands, Barclay might have come off looking like an insufferable nebbish or a pathetic manchild, but Shultz brings some real soul to the character that makes you really feel for him and the pain he's in even when he's being goony as gently caress.
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Baronjutter posted:I like when data was in command and his lovely racist first officer was useless and doubted him and practically had to be threatened with arrest and then data saves the day with actually really good command. Pretty much every sequence where someone else gets command of a ship/the Enterprise is solid, it's too bad the show never evolved in a Star Trek VI direction where someone permanently got their own command with occasional crossover action. A new series wouldn't even have to divide the overarching plot that much between them, one ship could be the other's escort like in a modern carrier battle group.
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Holy poo poo. http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-the-cruise-day-two-recap Yoga with Terry Farrell. loving JOE PISCOPO. Wine tasting with Casey Biggs. Picardo singing Gene's lyrics to the theme song.
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Cojawfee posted:Wine tasting with Casey Biggs. Kanar with Damar!
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Cojawfee posted:Holy poo poo. Ahahhaha Marina Sirtis looks loving miserable at the black jack tournament Edit:  Blast Fantasto fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:Ahahhaha Marina Sirtis looks loving miserable at the black jack tournament An eternity trapped with nerds, it's the Norwegian Pearl Star Trek Cruise all over again.
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Jan 11, 2017 20:59
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God drat. They had a hell of a lot more guests than I thought.
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Cojawfee posted:Holy poo poo. I make it a rule to stay off cruise ships, but here I'd make an exception. Also, Joe Piscopo evidently did not gently transition into old age. He went from twentysomething to geezer.
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I really want a Niner's hat. You can see a mix of qualities in the group photo. One guy just has a black hat, gently caress off. A couple of them have the lovely bootleg ones which are just a patch sewn on. The one lady in the front has the proper one with a embroidered logo directly onto the black hat. I want a proper niner's hat 
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Are the type of people who go on Star Trek cruises the type that would have enjoyed Joe Piscopo on Star Trek or the type that would have not liked it and wonder why he was on the cruise?
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Cojawfee posted:Are the type of people who go on Star Trek cruises the type that would have enjoyed Joe Piscopo on Star Trek or the type that would have not liked it and wonder why he was on the cruise? The type of people that believe having just been near Star Trek = greatness
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Jan 11, 2017 21:39
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Blast Fantasto posted:The type of people that believe having just been near Star Trek = greatness To be fair, it's largely thanks to those fans the actors of supporting characters who otherwise would have faded into oblivion can make a decent living on the convention circuit.
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FuturePastNow posted:I did not know Terry Farrell was a yoga instructor What's the word on her regretting leaving DS9 before it ended? Does she at all or nah?
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WickedHate posted:To be fair, it's largely thanks to those fans the actors of supporting characters who otherwise would have faded into oblivion can make a decent living on the convention circuit. I think James Doohan once said that he did so many conventions and college appearances in the '70s and '80s that he could have retired off that alone. VanSandman posted:What's the word on her regretting leaving DS9 before it ended? Does she at all or nah? She doesn't regret leaving -- she was really just done with doing an hourlong sci-fi show full-time -- but has always said that she didn't want to be killed off, because she was open to a part-time role in the seventh season. At least that's what I recall from an interview she gave back in 2010 or 2011.
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She left after six seasons, so I imagine there's way less regret than something like a Denise Crosby situation. Plus then she got that sweet Becker money.
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Cojawfee posted:Holy poo poo. What, no Vic Fontaine? Listen, pally, I didn't pay all this latinum to see some holographic doctor sing joke songs! I want swing music from 400 years ago! Sir... I think you've had enough Kanar.
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Becker was on for like a hundred seasons so you can't say she really made the wrong choice. Also I have no problems with Trek actors being kept afloat by conventions and the nerds who attend them. But I'm also not going to ignore the hilarious awkwardness that comes with them, it's good poo poo.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Becker was on for like a hundred seasons so you can't say she really made the wrong choice. She got fired after the fourth. 
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TheBigAristotle posted:What, no Vic Fontaine? Listen, pally, I didn't pay all this latinum to see some holographic doctor sing joke songs! I want swing music from 400 years ago! Hey hey hey, they've got the Cherry Poppin' Daddies instead. This cruise is the entirety of 1998 at sea. Alternate joke; The Cherry Poppin' Daddies performing on a cruise full of virgins.
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