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Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Dexo posted:

Gar Foreman account spotted

i'm sorry gar can't build a poor 3 point shooting team like presti

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
This seems a little excessive:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/819276102166118400

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Metapod posted:

i'm sorry gar can't build a poor 3 point shooting team like presti

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html#team-stats-base::9

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html#misc_stats::12


Look at that true shooting and eFG%.

:smug: :colbert:

Dexo fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 11, 2017

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

If I was a fringe playoff team I'd probably sign rose for like 2/15 with the 2nd year not guaranteed,

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

thats less than the mid level exception lol

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Spacebump posted:

I will always wonder why (before they slightly changed it this year) does a player not pay people in China to sit and vote them into the ASG all day? They probably wouldn't even need a million votes and that could be had for relatively cheap. (Especially if they have anything in their contract about getting paid more if they make the all star game.)

Hahahah what the hell

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

:stonk:

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Lockback posted:

I'm doing the smart thing and offering to take 12/mil a year because I love the organization.

they've got banks in every city, lockback

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

euphronius posted:

thats less than the mid level exception lol

Yeah, well Rose is really bad so

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

euphronius posted:

McDermott is 25 already wow.

Well yeah, he was in college for like 8 years.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Yeah McDermott, Tony Snell, and Kawhi are all the same age it's weird
One day soon the 'row boys will come together to terrorize the league.

Just gotta get Stephen Jackson to come out of retirement so we can sign and trade him to the bucks for snell, fair exchange

Brolander
Oct 20, 2008

i am but a vessel

EvanTH posted:

One of my favorite all-time post-game responses, "That was nasty, right?":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsIiB5OPy7U&t=64s

cocked that joint back and banged on him

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Lockback posted:


I just want to say my prediction here was super bad and dumb and I don't understand the 2017 Houston Rockets at all.

I don't understand the Rockets OR the Raptors. How does either of them win so much?

I thought I understood basketball. I understand the different reasons why other good teams win. The Warriors have great passers on offense and contest every shot on defense, the Cavs have Lebron and all those shooters and rebounders, the Celtics roll you with depth and perimeter defense, if the Grizzlies can force you to play their old school style, they will beat you, etc.

I look at the roster for the Rockets and Raptors and even acknowledging the incredible talents of Harden and Low/rozen I don't see how either works to create a team that good.

edit - I read everyone's subsequent posts explaining the Rockets' success and I still don't see it. Which is why I'm not in an NBA front office I guess.

predicto fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jan 11, 2017

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

https://austinspurs.wufoo.com/confirm/january-26th-game-on-espnu/

Free Austin Spurs game! I'm goin'

Mr. Onslaught
Jun 25, 2005

For you, it was the last time you would ever post in YCS. But for me...it was Tuesday.
A video of the Kobe, Shaq, and Rodman era Lakers vs. the Rockets with Pippen, Barkley, and Olajuwon (with Jordan watching courtside next to Jack Nicholson):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kG7VOPVzq8

More highlights from that game (and they played in the playoffs around this time but I think the Lakers had Glen Rice then):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TH3CPSD6-Q

That's six Hall of Famers on the court at once, with Phil Jackson making seven on the sideline and His Airness watching, just sorta surreal to see so many icons of 90s basketball in one regular game.

Also, Rockets through Blazers era Pippen had such smooth handles, loved his game during this time period but do advanced stats prove he was actually bad?

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

If you like stuff like this you'll have fun with this list

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lpv_8ulAzb_4s6dgjPppJlatMnV8wY0BOYWM7jpvbB0/edit

it's from a while ago so i'm sure some don't work but a lot do

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/tmoore76ers/status/819291096098422784

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


I just saw the video of steph getting jammed on and it is sexy stuff

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

dokmo posted:

Also, the question about Houston's surprising season is not about their offense. They were good last year, they are better this season with better parts. The question is how the gently caress they have a league-average defense while starting Ryan Anderson and James Harden, losing Dwight Howard, and playing a midget at center for 20 minutes per game.

Jeff Bzdelik is a brilliant man. If Capela returns and continues improving, it'll probably be D'Antoni's best defensive team ever aside from that anomalous Knicks half-year with Tyson Chandler.

I guess the rest of the league going small ball increases the advantage of having Ariza/Beverley. Like the Raptors went small the other night, but since they can't shoot as well as the Rockets it was easier to hide Anderson/Harden.

Harden is mostly still an inveterate ball watcher, but he actually did a good job on DeRozan and blocked him twice.

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

With how the Rockets are doing I figured Ryan Anderson would have some amazing stats. Nope

PER of 14.2, .128 WS/48, a BPM of -0.4 and a VORP of 0.5

He's having one of the worst statistical seasons of his career as a key part of a top team. Also he's making $18m a year.

Anderson is not doing great by his previous standards, but he's still hitting a very high clip of three pointers and providing important spacing. Jimmy's big year is definitely in large part thanks to Gordon/Anderson knocking down shots instead of Dwight lumbering around in the paint with all the grace and elegance of a loving bridge troll trying to perform open heart surgery

e: This actually matches Anderson's best TS% year at .591%

chunkles fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jan 11, 2017

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

chunkles posted:

Jeff Bzdelik is a brilliant man. If Capela returns and continues improving,
e: This actually matches Anderson's best TS% year at .591%

Its not only tied for his most efficient, but he is also taking far fewer shots at the rim and far more from 3 than any other season. It means he is doing a lot more to stretch out the defense. He has to shoot less in general to do this, but Harden don't mind that.

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
I also just now learned that Capela is one of those guys who played soccer and then switched to basketball because of height at age 13. Like many of the previous basketball greats, such as Hakeem Olajuwon and Hasheem Thabeet.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Lockback posted:

Its not only tied for his most efficient, but he is also taking far fewer shots at the rim and far more from 3 than any other season. It means he is doing a lot more to stretch out the defense. He has to shoot less in general to do this, but Harden don't mind that.

The Pels often used him as the shot creator in bench lineups.

Gordon would start but wouldn't have many playmaking duties because he had trouble keeping possession of the ball when he was the focus of the offense. Still the only guy that could throw good passes to Asik.

They were both hitting long 3s like they are for the Rockets, though.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Derrick Rose is back
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/65988/how-does-roses-unexcused-absence-impact-his-knicks-future

quote:

And then there is the potential price tag. Some close to Rose have told friends he will seek a max contract this summer. For Rose, that pact would be for five years and nearly $150 million.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Man what did rondo get from the Kings ? 1/10? Rose should be looking for like 1/15 or so.

NickRoweFillea
Sep 27, 2012

doin thangs
lol just lol at 🌹seeking a max after this year

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

chunkles posted:

I also just now learned that Capela is one of those guys who played soccer and then switched to basketball because of height at age 13. Like many of the previous basketball greats, such as Hakeem Olajuwon and Hasheem Thabeet.

Hahahaha

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Looking at what Evan Turner got I don't blame him for seeking that much.

Bums get paid every year b.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Even a lovely contract in the NBA is crazy high these days.

The league is rolling in dough

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Even turner was a fluke year deal.
He hit the lottery

Mr. Onslaught
Jun 25, 2005

For you, it was the last time you would ever post in YCS. But for me...it was Tuesday.

Cool Buff Man posted:

If you like stuff like this you'll have fun with this list

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lpv_8ulAzb_4s6dgjPppJlatMnV8wY0BOYWM7jpvbB0/edit

it's from a while ago so i'm sure some don't work but a lot do

:allears: So far the ones I've clicked on have all worked, this is great

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
Evan Turner himself literally couldn't believe what Portland gave him.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

I will also be seeking the NBA max and likely be just as successful

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
I was reading about Lonzo Ball and decided this quote is good enough to skip the draft thread.

"Lonzo can adapt and play with anybody," Lavar said. "Put all the stars together, Zo comes out as the guy that knows how everybody's game is. Somebody has to be the alpha of the alphas."
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18268717/ucla-bruins-lonzo-ball-family-just-beginning-relationship

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
the alpha of all alphas...no, a mere legend, a story for children...

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
Gees Rhyno has almost quadruple the amount of win shares as Derrick Rose.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Dokmo are these good hires

https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/818943645583863808

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Ex-NBA Player Orien Greene (-0.7 WS) Arrested for Creepy Butt Rub
http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/10/orien-greene-arrested/

https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/818893844431466496

🌹
🌹
🌹

Mr. Onslaught posted:

Also, Rockets through Blazers era Pippen had such smooth handles, loved his game during this time period but do advanced stats prove he was actually bad?

Not bad but overrated due to playing alongside Jordan for so many years.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Report: Distance from son in Chicago ‘weighing very heavily’ on Derrick Rose
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/01/10/report-distance-from-son-in-chicago-weighing-very-heavily-on-derrick-rose/

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

With how the Rockets are doing I figured Ryan Anderson would have some amazing stats. Nope

PER of 14.2, .128 WS/48, a BPM of -0.4 and a VORP of 0.5

He's having one of the worst statistical seasons of his career as a key part of a top team. Also he's making $18m a year.

270 3PAs at 41% is some of the best 3P shooting this year. He's on pace to have his best 3P shooting season by far.

Lockback posted:

It's not like an election or anything so they can just throw away a whole mess of votes if they think something shady was up with them.

That happens in real elections anyway.

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Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

predicto posted:

I don't understand the Rockets OR the Raptors. How does either of them win so much?

I thought I understood basketball. I understand the different reasons why other good teams win. The Warriors have great passers on offense and contest every shot on defense, the Cavs have Lebron and all those shooters and rebounders, the Celtics roll you with depth and perimeter defense, if the Grizzlies can force you to play their old school style, they will beat you, etc.

I look at the roster for the Rockets and Raptors and even acknowledging the incredible talents of Harden and Low/rozen I don't see how either works to create a team that good.

edit - I read everyone's subsequent posts explaining the Rockets' success and I still don't see it. Which is why I'm not in an NBA front office I guess.

You know how they say there is only 1 ball? What they really mean is there is only 1 possession; each team gets 1 possession per turn. The back and forth of turns is the pace. Since all professional​ teams are relatively the same, and use their possessions almost equally well; the differentiation​ is whether one team can outpace the others due to whatever special factor at different parts of the game, since the pace will be the same for the majority of the game.

rockets and raptors are known for doing 2 things well, 3s and ft.. the raptors also don't waste turns by TO.

3s artificially increase pace. you still got your 1 possession that turn, but you accomplished​ almost as much as 2.

FT artificially buff your possession, making sure it counts due to ease of fts.

that's basically it. doing these 2 things can swing pace, affect decision makings, lead to wins. most people don't think they have a chance, because their are teams that do the 3 things better, and for the raptors, they lack political capital to get fouls in the playoffs, ironically because their messaging is that their star is not good enough.

Femur fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jan 12, 2017

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