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hillary clinton had more money than our lord god jesus h. christ of nazareth but she still had to charge $20 for a fuckin yard sign
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Jan 12, 2017 18:20
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logikv9 posted:I would pay up to $50 for an ED balls yard sign  Serf posted:hillary clinton had more money than our lord god jesus h. christ of nazareth but she still had to charge $20 for a fuckin yard sign Also this. Like, the base idea of such a rich campaign being penny pinchers with loving SIGNS is baffling.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:20
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Serf posted:i tried to buy a clinton yard sign but it cost $20 and ain't nobody got that kinda money What's the point of all these free trade deals with China if you can't get cheap yard signs?
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Jan 12, 2017 18:21
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Tatum Girlparts posted:no, but they, ya know, keep the candidate's name in people's minds. Yard signs are effective in creating a social group, you just need a few in an area for it to look like a (that candidate) area. They also, ya know, let the campaign interact with people really easily, and get them on, say, a mailing/phone list, and provide at least a glimpse at where people are standing when canvasing areas and all. yes i am sure hillary clinton desperately needed to keep her name in people's minds. people had no idea who she was. and this was in no way just a retread of complaints from every presidential race ever.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:21
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Serf posted:hillary clinton had more money than our lord god jesus h. christ of nazareth but she still had to charge $20 for a fuckin yard sign Yeah when I saw you had to pay for a loving campaign sign I said gently caress it as far as getting any Democrat supporting poo poo.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:22
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Concerned Citizen posted:yes i am sure hillary clinton desperately needed to keep her name in people's minds. people had no idea who she was. and this was in no way just a retread of complaints from every presidential race ever. how does someone in this business not know the basic concept of signs being a super easy foot in the door for a campaign. They don't literally win elections on their own but they're useful tools and maybe something you should have a stock of just in case.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:23
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Matt Yglesias is obsessing over the idea of Matt Damon running in 2020 and sadly if the field is a bunch of Cory Booker types I'd probably vote for him. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/819592443414937600
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Jan 12, 2017 18:24
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yard signs are useful for trolling your neighbors and for displaying visible, open support for your candidate and they shouldn't cost money gently caress they should be paying us
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Jan 12, 2017 18:24
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this isn't so much 'if only she had signs she would have won' as it is 'the fact that she had no signs in many areas, even as campaign areas were asking for them, is a fantastic illustration of her campaign's core issues'
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Jan 12, 2017 18:24
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Tatum Girlparts posted:if Clinton ever wants a voice again in politics she should release a video of her and Bill smashing whatever computer Mook's lovely computer model was on, I assume an old LISA given their track record. die motherfuckers die motherfuckers still fool
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Jan 12, 2017 18:25
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to be clearer, I don't think if she had x more signs she would have won, but I do think she lost because she ran a campaign that told local offices 'no, you don't need signs, signs don't work' when they asked for signs because people wanted them.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:26
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Tatum Girlparts posted:how does someone in this business not know the basic concept of signs being a super easy foot in the door for a campaign. They don't literally win elections on their own but they're useful tools and maybe something you should have a stock of just in case. yard signs are loving useless. everyone in "this business" hates yard signs, except for candidates and dumb people. campaigns often invest in yard signs solely to get people like you to shut the gently caress up about yard signs. 1. they are somewhat useful for getting people in the door, but most people who come to get one are either already in the system or absolutely adamantly refuse to do anything other than display a sign. 2. they're expensive, and cost a lot of money to ship 3. they constantly get stolen 4. people demand they get delivered to their home because they feel entitled to signs 5. they do nothing. they don't increase turnout. they don't increase support levels. all they do is waste time. they're the vanity plate of political campaigns. i fondly recall selling obama yard signs for $15 in a field office in 2012, so this is all nothing new. Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 18:30 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Jan 12, 2017 18:28
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MaxxBot posted:Matt Yglesias is obsessing over the idea of Matt Damon running in 2020 and sadly if the field is a bunch of Cory Booker types I'd probably vote for him. I'm gonna make the same reference I did last time someone suggested this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOaCD_JNgkA We'd look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own celebrity candidate, don't matter how shouty
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Jan 12, 2017 18:28
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MaxxBot posted:Matt Yglesias is obsessing over the idea of Matt Damon running in 2020 and sadly if the field is a bunch of Cory Booker types I'd probably vote for him. why the gently caress not, if republicans can get an idiot clown with a piss fetish elected than surely the democrats can get some worthless hollywood prettyman in office as well i mean poo poo that's basically ronald reagan
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Jan 12, 2017 18:31
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yard signs are good if somebody sees that a neighbor supports Hillary, they might ask why at a barbecue or something. not everybody gets their opinions and social interaction from online
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Jan 12, 2017 18:32
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Concerned Citizen posted:yard signs are loving useless. everyone in "this business" hates yard signs, except for candidates and dumb people. campaigns often invest in yard signs solely to get people like you to shut the gently caress up about yard signs. You need the votes of the dumb people too though. How many dumb people do you think voted for Trump?
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Jan 12, 2017 18:34
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I'd vote for Matt Damon.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:34
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fits my needs posted:You need the votes of the dumb people too though. How many dumb people do you think voted for Trump? they're dumb people who already support us, so that doesn't help
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Jan 12, 2017 18:34
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Concerned Citizen posted:they're dumb people who already support us, so that doesn't help What if they just don't turn out to vote even though they support you because the dumbasses at the local office are too cheap to hand out lawn signs?
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Jan 12, 2017 18:36
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GalacticAcid posted:yard signs are good dropping mid 6 figures on yard signs and wasting thousands of hours assembling and distributing signs definitely seems worthwhile because at a theoretical barbeque someone might ask why they support hillary
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Jan 12, 2017 18:37
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logikv9 posted:bring back rigged yard signs Booby trapped Trump signs own.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:37
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i thought it was memes that cost elections
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Jan 12, 2017 18:37
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fits my needs posted:What if they just don't turn out to vote even though they support you because the dumbasses at the local office are too cheap to hand out lawn signs? this has never happened
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Jan 12, 2017 18:37
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Signs build solidarity and give a sense of investment in the campaign and force people to defend their positions to the ppl they interact with irl. They're good.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:37
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I think literally the only yard signs I ever saw in Minneapolis were for Gary Johnson.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:38
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Concerned Citizen posted:dropping mid 6 figures on yard signs and wasting thousands of hours assembling and distributing signs definitely seems worthwhile because at a theoretical barbeque someone might ask why they support hillary gotv expert right here docbeard posted:I think literally the only yard signs I ever saw in Minneapolis were for Gary Johnson. i saw tons and tons of trump signs in georgia. not a single clinton one
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Jan 12, 2017 18:38
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GalacticAcid posted:in all likelihood a bernie sanders presidency would have also adhered to neoliberal orthodoxy as reformist social democratic governments have the world over since Mitterand 
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Jan 12, 2017 18:38
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The largest yard sign I have ever seen was the 2008 Ron Paul sign taking up the entirety of a Providence head shop's front window in 2010
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Jan 12, 2017 18:39
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there are no yards where i live so i see bumper stickers, does this count
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Jan 12, 2017 18:40
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Concerned Citizen posted:this has never happened Oh, ok. I guess Hillary is President then and we aren't hearing about the sexual fetishes of our pissbaby president? Oh wait, you're wrong lmao 
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Jan 12, 2017 18:39
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fits my needs posted:Oh, ok. I guess Hillary is President then and we aren't hearing about the sexual fetishes of our pissbaby president? yes clearly hillary lost due to yard signs
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Jan 12, 2017 18:40
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Jan 12, 2017 18:40
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Dropping 6 figures on yard signs would have been a better use of resources than Robby Mook's gaming rig.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:41
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yard signs are the same as memes except they cost infinite more time and money, they add literally nothing.They only exist because its easier for campaign staff to just buy them than deal with the constant whining from people think they matter (they don't). If campaigns want to sell them fine whatever but actually paying for yard signs is lighting money on fire
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Jan 12, 2017 18:41
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Concerned Citizen posted:yes clearly hillary lost due to yard signs yet again, she didn't lose because of lawn signs, but she did lose because her campaign was the kind of campaign who literally told local branches who told them people wanted signs 'nah, the computer says signs don't work, no signs tell them to buy it online'.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:42
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Dropping 6 figures on yard signs would have been a better use of resources than Robby Mook's gaming rig.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:43
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docbeard posted:I think literally the only yard signs I ever saw in Minneapolis were for Gary Johnson. Minneapolis people must be weird with signs, in my neighborhood there are multiple "Stop Scott Walker" signs.
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Jan 12, 2017 18:43
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yet again, she didn't lose because of lawn signs, but she did lose because her campaign was the kind of campaign who literally told local branches who told them people wanted signs 'nah, the computer says signs don't work, no signs tell them to buy it online'. yeah except the campaign was right, so good work on campaign's part for turning down stupid requests from idiots.
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