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Robot Style posted:Does anyone have any experience with the fanmade Mass Effect D20 system? I'm currently playing a campaign with some friends, and our hacker party member seems way too OP. At level 2, he was able to open all the holding cells on a military flagship through an air conditioner control inside his cell, which seems a little ridiculous. "Tech Points: A Salarian Scientist starts the game with a number of tech points equal to his Intelligence modifier times Salarian Scientist level (minimum of 1)." "Tech Points: The Volus Protector’s tech points are equal to his Intelligence modifier times Volus Protector level (minimum of 1)." First version wasn't clear whether you kept gaining points every level or not, but most of the classes use the Volus Protector's language. Presumable he's either an Engineer or Infiltrator. At Level 4: 18 int base, +2 from being Quarian, 7 skill points in all relevant skills, +2 for White Hat feat (+2 to damping/decryption/electronics/hacking), and +5 for Skill Focus (level 3 feat). If your GM is a complete doormat, he took the Savant achievement feat (pg 315) at level 1 and got +3 electronics/repair and +2 damping/decryption/hacking. That gets us to +21 and it already doesn't matter. The highest DC for a hacking check (Hack a military-grade defensive IFF and alter it) is 30 and he can just take 10 to autosucceed on that. He can choose to do things in half the time if he takes +5. ...unless he just wants free money. To hack a bank terminal to transfer you money is DC (15+[amount of money desired/500]) and takes a number of rounds equal to the DC divided by 3 (round down). Let's say he wanted to withdraw 5500 credits and wanted to do it fast, that would DC 26+5 = 31, 10 rounds base divided by 2 is 5. So 30 seconds with a bank terminal and he can withdraw 5500 credits from any bank terminal he runs into. The rules note he can only do this once per terminal. He might spend that money on: Quarian service vest: Light armor, 2700 credits, +2 to damping, decryption, electronics, hacking, and repair checks (not typed, stacks with everything) Omnitool upgrades: +1/2/5 to any given skill for 100/800/2500 credits. So +5 to damping, decryption, electronics, and hacking would be 10k credits (again, not typed, so it stacks with everything) Neural amplifier: 300 credits+4k or 16k credits for +2 or +4 to int Skill implant: +3 competence bonus to a skill for 5250. So if you guys spent some time robbing banks with the explicit one-roll Rob Bank rules, he could have up to a +33 to hacking at level 4. edit: You need an Omnitool for any damping, decryption, electronics, first aid, hacking, and repair checks so he should not have been able to do any hacking in the holding cell unless they inexplicably let him hang onto his tools. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Boy do I feel silly for guffawing at how ham-handedly Revenge of the Sith handled a transition over to fascism. Turns out it's going to be even easier than that! Lucas was just a decade too early. But like for real one of the villains is named loving Nute Gunray and their flagship is the Invisible Hand.
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If you download a Mass Effect D20 RPG you deserve what you get.
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Serf posted:Lucas was just a decade too early. But like for real one of the villains is named loving Nute Gunray and their flagship is the Invisible Hand. The big Trade Federation ship that Anakin blew up in Ep 1 was a Lucrehulk-class Battleship
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Plutonis posted:If you download a Mass Effect D20 RPG you deserve what you get. Just play feelings and lazers
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gradenko_2000 posted:The big Trade Federation ship that Anakin blew up in Ep 1 was a Lucrehulk-class Battleship Unsubtle but very necessary.
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Serf posted:Unsubtle but very necessary. Much like Watto
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Robot Style posted:Is this guy just taking advantage of a poorly QC'ed fanmade game, or is there active bullshit going on? There are two types of D20 adaptations: awfully-balanced fussy piles of bullshit, and the figment of the author's imagination that he believes he actually wrote.
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Robot Style posted:Is this guy just taking advantage of a poorly QC'ed fanmade game, or is there active bullshit going on? Does the end of the campaign involve different colors of explosions? On a different note, have you thought about using a different engine? It may not be D20, but Cortex+ could be a better fit for your group.
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. The player in question is playing a Quarian Engineer so is probably doing something similar to what was suggested by Gobbledygook, combined with our GM being a first timer who just wanted to try a Mass Effect game without giving a lot of thought to trying to do conversion on an existing system.
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Ominous Jazz posted:Just play feelings and lazers or impulse drive if you're a pbta fan
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i mean i don't think a rules light story game is exactly good for replicating the feel of mass effect. but you should never ever ever trust a d20 fan game
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Someone on tumblr posted a way back about using Strike! for Mass Effect. I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the series myself, but as far as I understand they're essentially sci-fi RPGs with some cover-based shooting, so it does not seem that far-fetched an idea. You could probably even hack the emotional attributes system in some way to make a Paragon/Renegade system. Maybe? I don't know.
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Ratpick posted:Someone on tumblr posted a way back about using Strike! for Mass Effect. I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the series myself, but as far as I understand they're essentially sci-fi RPGs with some cover-based shooting, so it does not seem that far-fetched an idea. You could probably even hack the emotional attributes system in some way to make a Paragon/Renegade system. Maybe? I don't know. yeah the cover + positioning stuff of strike could actually be a real good fit for how mass effect 2 and 3 play is that emotional attributes system from a supplement? i don't remember it being in the core book
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Ratpick posted:Someone on tumblr posted a way back about using Strike! for Mass Effect. I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the series myself, but as far as I understand they're essentially sci-fi RPGs with some cover-based shooting, so it does not seem that far-fetched an idea. You could probably even hack the emotional attributes system in some way to make a Paragon/Renegade system. Maybe? I don't know. Yeah it would be a good fit, especially since the Class/Role system lines up pretty well with the class system Mass Effect uses(especially the version 3's MP uses)
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Brother Entropy posted:yeah the cover + positioning stuff of strike could actually be a real good fit for how mass effect 2 and 3 play It's in the core book, but it's an optional rule. I think the example given was using it for a Sanity system, but one of the Kits (the moneybags kit) used it for Greed. Of course it'd have to be hacked so that it's not a single scale but a continuum, but I could see it working.
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Ratpick posted:It's in the core book, but it's an optional rule. I think the example given was using it for a Sanity system, but one of the Kits (the moneybags kit) used it for Greed. okay yeah found it on page 73 i'm not sure you'd necessarily need it to be a continuum, you could maybe have paragon and renegade as two different skills? i remember in at least one of the MEs the two didn't cancel each other out and you could potentially have both maxed through new game+ the whole 'stop becoming a PC or lose the skill at 6' is a little extreme for paragon/renegade though. i'm actually getting kinda interested in running a mass effect strike game now, if anyone's got any other ideas of how to do paragon/renegade stuff(or if it's really even necessary) i'm all ears
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Brother Entropy posted:the whole 'stop becoming a PC or lose the skill at 6' is a little extreme for paragon/renegade though. i'm actually getting kinda interested in running a mass effect strike game now, if anyone's got any other ideas of how to do paragon/renegade stuff(or if it's really even necessary) i'm all ears Oh, definitely, that'd have to be the first to go. In general I'm not a fan of any kind of emotional attribute system where at some point you lose agency over your character: V:tM's Humanity comes to mind, but Burning Wheel also has it for Dwarves, Elves and Orcs (although there it's a much slower process and much better tied with the rest of the game's mechanics). But yeah, the Paragon and Renegade stuff might be completely unnecessary to the game, and even though it works in a single player experience like a CRPG it might be jarring to have a party with multiple different Paragon/Renegade scores across the board.
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For my notably half-finished hack I basically made Paragon and Renegade minikits, more based on what a maxed out hero of that type would do than as any sort of morality scoring system.quote:Champion: quote:Badass:
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# ? Jan 12, 2017 11:47 |
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Isn't Paragon/Renegade a sort of gamified emulation of the sort of curated, player-driven plot you'd get with a human DM in the first place, such that you might not need an explicit representation of it anymore if you already have a human DM driving the game to begin with?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Isn't Paragon/Renegade a sort of gamified emulation of the sort of curated, player-driven plot you'd get with a human DM in the first place, such that you might not need an explicit representation of it anymore if you already have a human DM driving the game to begin with? It also serves as a mechanic to basically tie your charm/intimidation skills to your reputation, so you might want to include that in some way.
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Ratpick posted:Someone on tumblr posted a way back about using Strike! for Mass Effect. I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the series myself, but as far as I understand they're essentially sci-fi RPGs with some cover-based shooting, so it does not seem that far-fetched an idea. You could probably even hack the emotional attributes system in some way to make a Paragon/Renegade system. Maybe? I don't know. Here's unseenlibrarian's post with the race/class notes he wrote up for it. Strike! is what I would use if I was going to run ME. Fragged Empire would also work well but would require a lot more work, since that's not designed as a multi-genre toolkit game. Edit: Derp! He beat me to it.
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I'm digging through Shadow of the Demon Lord and theres a lot of cool stuff but so far I've noticed: -the author seems to have a scat fetish -seriously poo poo is everywhere -playing with poo poo -asslicking -artwork of a cigar smoking wizard in jorts riding a bubble through space
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The Whizzard and the piss trees.jpg
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Cinnamon Bear posted:I'm digging through Shadow of the Demon Lord and theres a lot of cool stuff but so far I've noticed: He really leans hard into the "Revulsion" style of horror apparently.
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Cinnamon Bear posted:I'm digging through Shadow of the Demon Lord and theres a lot of cool stuff but so far I've noticed: considering one of sotdl's big inspirations is a game infamous for its shitfarmer classes, I'm not sure what you expected
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Arivia posted:considering one of sotdl's big inspirations is a game infamous for its shitfarmer classes, I'm not sure what you expected I haven't found the small but vicious dog yet Actually its pretty good. I was more repulsed by the jorts though.
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Sounds like a good time to point out that Talislanta had (has?) a literal poo poo farmer class. Marukani Dung Farmer, as I recall.
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potatocubed posted:Sounds like a good time to point out that Talislanta had (has?) a literal poo poo farmer class. Marukani Dung Farmer, as I recall. I always wanted to play that...
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Cinnamon Bear posted:-artwork of a cigar smoking wizard in jorts riding a bubble through space
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https://twitter.com/icp/status/819296817401778176
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Dark Carnival Game Con
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Don't play with my heart Violent J.
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imagine that i linked that ettin written 'gently caress you' thing here
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Ominous Jazz posted:Dark Carnival Game Con I like to imagine that Dark Carnival Game Con is going to get complaints from a group of very serious Juggalo chessmasters, face paint replicating classic board positions and problems, about the jackasses playing a CAH ripoff and yelling about EROTIC FAYGO CONSUMPTION or whatever the hell is in a Juggalo-themed CAHoid deck.
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Not sure if it's better or worse than the other Juggalo game.
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It's less likely to get people arrested. I'm not sure if you'd consider that better or worse though, because juggalos.
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Juggalos are legit cool as hell if only a bit goofy and 90% of the hate against them is because they are lower class.
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Plutonis posted:Juggalos are legit cool as hell if only a bit goofy and 90% of the hate against them is because they are lower class. Well, as a loyal subject of the British Crown I can only say 'and..?' Nah but seriously, how do magnets work can someone please clear that up for me
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Plutonis posted:Juggalos are legit cool as hell if only a bit goofy and 90% of the hate against them is because they are lower class. What's it like to be this wrong about everything? People hate on anyone with the taste to base their life around a lower-talent version of Eminem crossed with KISS, regardless of social class. EDIT: And of course you also have a rap sheet a mile long for slurring minorities, so you're obviously the person to point out who the actually deserving people are. rkajdi fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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