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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Centrists must die

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

anime was right posted:

is that why bernie is immortal

maple syrup is a good lubricant for those creaky grandpa joints

just has a can and squirts it under his armpits so he can start gesticulating at the robber barons

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Lastgirl posted:

maple syrup is a good lubricant for those creaky grandpa joints

just has a can and squirts it under his armpits so he can start gesticulating at the robber barons

im pretty sure bernie's joints are self-mapling

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Serf posted:

let the neolibs stand up and be counted so that they may be more easily branded and purged in the future

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Oh Snapple! posted:

im pretty sure bernie's joints are self-mapling

lol self-mapling

[mops up sweat on forehead with handkerchief and squeezes it out in a bucket, oozing viscous maple syrup in the process]

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

docbeard posted:

Even aside from the 'gently caress you, corporate slave' side of the argument, this is a really dumb time for Democrats to stand in the way of literally anything that lowers health care costs, now that it's becoming increasingly clear (it was always clear to us) that the Republicans really are going to go through with repealing the ACA and replacing it with "gently caress you".

(Yes, yes, I want Single Payer instead of the half-assed ACA too.)

The cynical side of me says that they intentionally hosed over their own amendment so they could talk about how they tried to help people afford medicine without actually allowing Trump to reap the benefits of people being able to afford medicine under his administration

Serf
May 5, 2011


HorseRenoir posted:

The cynical side of me says that they intentionally hosed over their own amendment so they could talk about how they tried to help people afford medicine without actually allowing Trump to reap the benefits of people being able to afford medicine under his administration

the cynical side is always the correct side

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

That'd be a neat trick, Trump taking credit for Bernie's bill. I think it's more likely that Obama would've vetoed.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

anime was right posted:

cory booker is not a democrat

to think i liked that guy

rip

Cory Booker is actually a poster child Democrat. That's the problem.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
I mean really, what incentive is there for congressional Dems to actively improve peoples' lives right now? Peoples' quality of life improving in any way would just enable Donald Trump, so might as well go full accelerationist and let people blame the sitting president for all their problems like they always do

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That'd be a neat trick, Trump taking credit for Bernie's bill.

This is exactly what would have happened. I'm mildly surprised that Trump hasn't yet taken credit for the sun rising.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

HorseRenoir posted:

I mean really, what incentive is there for congressional Dems to actively improve peoples' lives right now? Peoples' quality of life improving in any way would just enable Donald Trump, so might as well go full accelerationist and let people blame the sitting president for all their problems like they always do

Neo liberalism is conservatism

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That'd be a neat trick, Trump taking credit for Bernie's bill. I think it's more likely that Obama would've vetoed.

i'm slightly doubtful of that, just by virtue of the loving balls it would take to veto that thing.

then again, when you're on your way out, balls don't really factor into anything anymore.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

HorseRenoir posted:

I mean really, what incentive is there for congressional Dems to actively improve peoples' lives right now? Peoples' quality of life improving in any way would just enable Donald Trump, so might as well go full accelerationist and let people blame the sitting president for all their problems like they always do

Being obstructionist on policy that would improve peoples' lives won't work for Dems, because they can be primaried on it. (Far) Right Wing Republicans could get away with striking down legislation they wanted, because they could claim it didn't go far enough. How are Democrats going to say legislation doesn't go far enough, after they spent so much time arguing against Bernie for going too far?

Ed: I guess I'm just not convinced that cynical politics will work for Dems because Liberals and Leftists are already incredibly cynical, compared to conservative rubes.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Jan 12, 2017

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Thoguh posted:

I dunno, look what Canadian drugs did to Baloogan.

G-Hawk
Dec 15, 2003

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

lmao

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



hey guys just checking in to see if this thread is making GBS threads on 2020 candidate Cory Booker enough

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Shear Modulus posted:

hey guys just checking in to see if this thread is making GBS threads on 2020 candidate Cory Booker enough

It's not. Don't know how much they shat on him over the last couple pages, but it's not enough.

Serf
May 5, 2011


when cory gets the nom in 2020 i will bravely reach across the aisle to the neolibs and hand them a bouquet of dicks

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

God drat it who or what can i even support now

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Serf posted:

when cory gets the nom in 2020 i will bravely reach across the aisle to the neolibs and hand them a bouquet of dicks

the ge in 2020 is going to be another republican primary

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


GalacticAcid posted:

I'm pretty sure these drugs would be re-imported anyway. As in, US pharmaceutical countries make them, Canada buys in bulk at low cost, and then wholesalers reimport them based on that low cost. So they're created under FDA jurisdiction lol.

edit - please correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't read anything substantive on this poo poo

you are correct for the most part, i'm sure there's some pharma manufacturing in canada

for some mysterious reason canada is able to get the drugs much cheaper than a US citizen can but i'm sure it has nothing to do with using the united bargaining power of millions to negotiate a good deal or anything

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Uncle Wemus posted:

God drat it who or what can i even support now

bernie 'would have won' sanders

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Uncle Wemus posted:

God drat it who or what can i even support now

Full socialism now?

Serf
May 5, 2011


let me be clear: i will in no uncertain terms vote for cory booker in 2020, but only because the alternative is *the yawning sound of the lightless gulf between worlds and the soft, fleshless things that claw at the walls of reality*

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Uncle Wemus posted:

God drat it who or what can i even support now

bernie and keith and socialism

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
cory booker bad

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Concerned Citizen posted:

cory booker bad

corey booger

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



i bet his potential voters are pretty cory shooker

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
cuomo worse

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



its going to own when the usual suspects write 10000 articles in 2020 about how the elizabros are all racist for not supporting booker

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Preet must save us from Cuomo

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Cuomo sounds pretty allspice, if you ask me.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Uncle Wemus posted:

God drat it who or what can i even support now

Jezebel's even writing anti-Booker articles now

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



EugeneJ posted:

Jezebel's even writing anti-Booker articles now

good, bury him before he can start rallying any kind of support. and do the same to cuomo please.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

logikv9 posted:

the big issue is that sanders bases his campaigns against the rich, but too many rustbelt / flyover country voters see being rich as something that is inherently good and if there is "income inequality" it's because you aren't trying hard enough at working! also obama!!

Knowing many of these sorts of people, it's heavily context dependent.

They are concerned about taxing the rich as a whole because by default they think that if they themselves were rich they would be one of the "good ones", and the people that are "wealthy" in their town are!

But rural/rustbelt rich is not the sort of rich that is the primary target here, and many of them hate what they see as the rich elite (emphasis "elite", here) even if they don't hate the concept of wealthy people in general. At least among those I know, there was very much an undercurrent of distaste for those like, say, Romney, or for Wall Street Traders or whoever. People where it easy to make the argument that they didn't make their money by "creating" wealth and thus don't deserve it.

I think that's an in, for them - focus on the wealthy parasites.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Cubey posted:

good, bury him before he can start rallying any kind of support. and do the same to cuomo please.

"Cuomo is a loving Snake", via Jezebel. lol.

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
andrew cuomo, worst cuomo

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