Auspol January 2017: relentless incoherence and incompetence.

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Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

open24hours posted:

Is that in response to anything in particular? Are there seriously feminists out there who push a tough-on-crime approach as a singular solution to domestic violence?

nah just the daily dose of left renewals newest platform addition verbatim

# ? Jan 13, 2017 03:59

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# ? May 20, 2024 19:19

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Senor Tron posted:

In the event that someone had to completely resign (unlikely, they will all defend each other over this to protect themselves) how is that period waiting for a new member to be elected handled? In situations like now when the government only has a super slim majority I assume there is some system in place to stop them getting defeated in votes in the time between an MP resigning and their replacement entering parliament.

nope, just like they may lose votes if they had a member absent and the opposition refused to provide a pair.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:04

fiery_valkyrie: Mar 26, 2003; I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

adamantium|wang posted:

https://twitter.com/7NewsQueensland/status/819733542552801282

If I could get someone else to pay for it, I'd be taking plenty of holidays to the Great Barrier Reef before it dies too.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:11

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/PoliticsFairfax/status/819743670647693312

Time to take out the rubbish.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:15

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

Where does one watch such things live on a computer?

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:26

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

^^abc news livestream usually would

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsFairfax/status/819743670647693312

Time to take out the rubbish.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:29

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

Higsian posted:

Where does one watch such things live on a computer?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

They typically broadcast big political press conferences live.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:30

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Get rid of her quickly Turnbull, I don't want to miss the Nintendo presentation.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:38

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Get rid of her quickly Turnbull, I don't want to miss the Nintendo presentation.

lol if it doesn't have anything to do with the Parliamentarian's gravy train

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:40

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Reichminister Nichols trying to deflect away that one of their own defected

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:45

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsFairfax/status/819743670647693312

Time to take out the rubbish.

He's going to hold the Nintendo switch hostage unless he gets another term.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:46

adamantium|wang: Sep 14, 2003; Missing you

The man is deeply obsessed

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:47

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Former LNP minister Steve Dickson defects to Pauline Hanson's One Nation, with the move giving the party a seat in Queensland's hung parliament.

LOOOOOL

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:49

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:49

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Synthbuttrange posted:

Former LNP minister Steve Dickson defects to Pauline Hanson's One Nation, with the move giving the party a seat in Queensland's hung parliament.

LOOOOOL

His son is a nasty piece of work, wanting to join the Sunshine Coast council so he could shut down mosques

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:51

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

People are getting sick of politicians starting off with one set of policies and then jumping ship to support another
:ironicat:

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:51

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

adamantium|wang posted:

The man is deeply obsessed

bathroom crusader is the most moral calling

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:56

Resident Idiot: May 11, 2007; Maxine13; Grimey Drawer

adamantium|wang posted:

The man is deeply obsessed

I can't read the signature on my phone - which Bill Leak wannabe is this?

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:57

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Ley has officially resigned

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:58

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

He looks so dead inside.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 04:59

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

I'm glad of it.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:02

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Was this HIS phone? What an amateur.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:02

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

So this is to stem the rot, right? Now they can say "Expenses scandal over. She resigned. Nothing to see here. _{See you back in cabinet in 6 months Ley}"

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:02

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Literally laughed out loud

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:04

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Amoeba102 posted:

So this is to stem the rot, right? Now they can say "Expenses scandal over. She resigned. Nothing to see here. _{See you back in cabinet in 6 months Ley}"

He's proposing a new independent body to oversee expenses.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:06

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

Well I can't watch the turnball thing. I only just see Ley's resignation.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:08

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Now Tudge please.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:08

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

Ley resigns, they have an independent body. Does this mean that past transgressions for others will be ignored or will the media go for blood? I kept seeing JBishop stories and now Ciobo is in the news too travel expenses.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:10

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

He's proposing a new independent body to oversee expenses.

yeah but has to have an ex-MP on board, so how independent will it be?

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:09

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Get rid of her quickly Turnbull, I don't want to miss the Nintendo presentation.

It better be cheaper than the Wii U.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:10

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Recoome posted:

yeah but has to have an ex-MP on board, so how independent will it be?

Yeah I dunno. Just saying they're not trying to make it seem like her resigning solves everything.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:11

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

open24hours posted:

It better be cheaper than the Wii U.

299 USD, so no.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:15

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

Turnbull seemed pretty drat shook.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:17

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

I don't think I've ever heard One Nation talk about medicinal cannabis. What is even going on.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:18

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

quote:

Ms Ley famously changed the spelling of her first name to Sussan, after discovering a numerology theory claiming it would bring her an exciting and interesting life.

IT WORKED

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:18

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Yeah I dunno. Just saying they're not trying to make it seem like her resigning solves everything.

yes they are

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:20

Redcordial: Nov 7, 2009; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Synthbuttrange posted:

IT WORKED

Hahaha I was thinking the same thing once I read about that ridiculous story.

Pretty good day all in all.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 05:35

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Lid posted:

There has long been tension between often white, more affluent feminists calling for greater police powers, greater state intervention and incarceration as a primary response to the issue of violence against women, and those feminists that recognise the police, state intervention and incarceration as sources of violence themselves. Disproportionately, this is violence against Aboriginal people, as well as against poorer people, people of colour, queer people, and other marginalised groups.

Carceral feminism represents a critical misunderstanding of the real-world consequences of deploying the police; that they do not serve to ‘protect’. Ms Dhu was 22 years old when she died in custody in August 2014, in excruciating pain, after being repeatedly refused medical treatment. She had been held in custody for two days, after being arrested for unpaid fines. According to a March 2016 ABC article, a Senior Constable testified in relation to this death that Sergeant Rick Bond told her Ms Dhu was a junkie who was faking illness; Sergeant Bond was frustrated and she wanted to appease him because "his word was law" and he was known to "verbally attack" people who questioned him.

This is not a case of ‘one bad apple’ - the police as an institution is harmful and violent; violence against minorities is business-as-usual, not an outlier. Ms Dhu’s case is just one tragic case out of numerous deaths in custody, overwhelmingly of Indigenous people. Given the numerous instances of police violence towards women, it is dangerously wrong for carceral feminists to promote incarceration and state intervention as solutions to violence against women.

As Victoria Law writes, “Casting policing and prisons as the solution to domestic violence both justifies increases to police and prison budgets and diverts attention from the cuts to programs that enable survivors to escape, such as shelters, public housing, and welfare. Positioning police and prisons as the principal antidote discourages seeking other responses, including community interventions and long-term organising.”

To use an example from NSW, while already underfunded rape & domestic violence frontline services, women’s shelters and community legal centres - some of the primary free services in the areas of domestic violence and family law - are facing massive funding cuts, the NSW Government is pouring billions of dollars into new prison projects, which will undoubtedly increase and perpetuate instances of violence.

Violence against women is an immense and serious problem, but greater state intervention is neither the appropriate nor the non-violent response.

But this is a good and cool opinion?

# ? Jan 13, 2017 06:29

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Yes, because if there's one thing which typifies women being beaten and brutalised by their partners, it's the state's overwhelming response to it.

Won't someone please think of the men :ohdear:

# ? Jan 13, 2017 06:35

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WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Or you know it's the state's complete indifference to it unless it allows greater police spending. :shrug:

Like that's a pretty huge wilful misinterpretation there.

# ? Jan 13, 2017 07:07

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