|
marshmallow creep posted:Is your username from the alternate universe where ME3 was a stoner comedy? nah i got it in a gbs post here to change your name thread, but a weed induced ME3 would make it make more sense
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 00:02 |
|
|
Section Z posted:I would forgive the Kai Leng stuff if you always had an interrupt option to make Shepard act like he has no idea who the gently caress Kai Leng is.  "Look, I'm the guy always pissing in people's cereal, do you remember me now?"
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:06
|
|
"Who are you! Who do you work for!"
|
Waltzing Along posted:If you were to take all three games and judge them independently of each other, ME1 is the best, ME2 is #2 and ME3 is a pile of poo poo that makes no sense. ME1 really hasn't aged very well though. Trying to get younger people to play it is a struggle. Even I balked at the thought of doing all the planet exploring and that 2-3 hour citadel segment after Eden prime. It has really fantastic moments. I remember playing the original with my best friend watching on the couch and we both lost our poo poo on Virmire when you talk to Sovereign and he starts dropping some mad truth bombs on you. The big problem is that for every great moment like that there is a load more filler.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:10
|
|
|
Bud K ninja sword posted:nah i got it in a gbs post here to change your name thread, but a weed induced ME3 would make it make more sense You know Mordin or Jack would hook you up.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:11
|
|
|
Lobok posted:You know Mordin or Jack would hook you up. id take that mordin poo poo anyday. I am natch the very model of a scientist salarian.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:13
|
|
|
I always thought the reapers reason for taking a long time getting here was it just takes a drat long time to get from Dark Space. Like the usual plan is: 1) Finish the current reaping. 2) Reset the Citadel again for ease of use. 3) Leave one of us behind to get ready for next reaping. 4) Go wait in dark space for a brief amount of time. 5) Commence reaping When it goes to pot after Mass Effect I assumed it went 3) If we have recieved no signal from inside the Milky way send an additional scouter to check, make sure things need resetting. Then if 2 is unavailable try building components and we'll be along in the next 20 or so years to check up and begin reaping.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 00:20
|
|
|
Skippy McPants posted:It would have been a better idea in that it actually tied into the themes and setup of the earlier games. ....such as? Like no seriously, the closest thing that comes to supporting it that I remember was that missable dialogue about a star mysteriously dying earlier than it should have and I don't quite remember any themes that actually deal with it, meanwhile ME1 has a plot critical conversation that creates an huge issue with it: Sovereign posted:Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it. With as many jokes as there are about killing the organics to save the organics, there would've been a ton more about killing the organics to stop them from ending the galaxy via using the technology we keep giving them without even including a warning sign on them.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 01:16
|
|
|
I wish bioware would just hire a serious sci-fi author to draw an outline for a story arc and let them fill in the rest. The Alistair Reynolds' Inhibitors are basically a better and more well thought-out version of the collectors.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 01:38
|
|
|
SaltPig posted:I wish bioware would just hire a serious sci-fi author to draw an outline for a story arc and let them fill in the rest. And Fred Saberhagen's Berserkers are better Reapers.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 01:41
|
|
|
SaltPig posted:I wish bioware would just hire a serious sci-fi author to draw an outline for a story arc and let them fill in the rest. Alistair Reynolds also had a hard science Ph.d and put long term effort and planning into his Revelation Space universe and knew 100% at the start of the series what the end game for the Inhibitors was, i.e You can't loving win and you'll probably just make something worse to fight them
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 01:47
|
|
|
I feel like any great author writing a mass effect game would just end up feeling hamstrung by having to write a power fantasy that constantly justifies the protagonist standing victorious on top of a mountain of bodies.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:02
|
|
|
tayvaan posted:I feel like any great author writing a mass effect game would just end up feeling hamstrung by having to write a power fantasy that constantly justifies the protagonist standing victorious on top of a mountain of bodies. It would be decently possible with Berserkers. Standard human tactics are to breach a Berserker's hull and board them, then destroy them from within - Berserkers are all but unstoppable in space, but their internal defenses weren't considered a priority by their original builders and are no match for human marines.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:07
|
|
|
Story wise I honestly think mass effect is amazing in a way. Like it's writing in a set of genres that has become almost forbidden in the modern age. Like star trek locked up the concept of writing about federations of alien species and the 80s, 90s and 2000s ruined the idea of writing about futures that are ever anything but bleak nonstop. In the modern era yeah, there are some writers writing anything you can think of, but the landscape is really barren. If you go back to 1960s sci-fi you can find a ton of stories about humans in the council of planets with the aliens in a future where history turned out pretty okay. If you look back at 1950s short story magazines you can find a million things that do the idea better. But in modern film and games and whatever that whole thing is rare enough that mass effect kinda is one of the best. There is handfuls of authors and books that do this stuff now, but honestly pretty drat rare. It's hard to name a movie that does this anymore. Not even star trek is about that stuff anymore 90% of the time.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:27
|
|
|
Exposure posted:....such as? I think the idea was that the galaxy is huge, using the Mass Effect is what kills stars, and if left to their own devices any civilization will start exploiting it once they discover eezo. Rather than try to monitor and comb the enormous galaxy constantly, the Reapers just seeded it with the relay network and designed it so it funneled the civs to the Citadel. Show up every 50,000 years, crop the weeds that sprung up and helpfully gathered themselves in your trap, cull the galaxy of the threat of anyone using the Mass Effect before they did too much damage. Civs that don't discover Element Zero and the Mass Effect won't discover FTL travel and won't find relays, so they aren't culled but they're also not a threat. Yeah it's dumb they didn't put up signs that say "hey we know this is super useful but it kills the universe, don't do it" but you know civs would just say "nah" anyway. Also, video games.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:40
|
|
|
DarkHorse posted:
"The Element Zero signs are a lie created by the Batarians to make human fleets noncompetitive."
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:42
|
|
|
Chexoid posted:"The Element Zero signs are a lie created by the Batarians to make human fleets noncompetitive." WE CANNOT ALLOW AN EEZO "GAP" 
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 02:55
|
|
|
I wanna replay ME2 again to replay ME3 again because I never finished it. Do I actually need to import saves or am I remembering correctly that there were some questions asked in the beginning of the games to set things to what you 'wanted?' I deleted both of those a long time ago, so yeah.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:16
|
|
|
Pattonesque posted:https://www.masseffect.com/andromeda-initiative/training-hub/tempest-and-nomad So this... is the power... of Bioware....... Wow..........
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:19
|
|
|
TastyLemonDrops posted:I wanna replay ME2 again to replay ME3 again because I never finished it. Do I actually need to import saves or am I remembering correctly that there were some questions asked in the beginning of the games to set things to what you 'wanted?' I deleted both of those a long time ago, so yeah. if you're playing on PC there are saves available (on me2 saves I think) for me1 import characters
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:19
|
|
|
There is a DLC interactive comic for both games that lets you answer questions to set everything up. I think in ME2 if you don't have the DLC there are some questions you can answer when Miranda and Jacob are sanity checking Shep on the way to meet the Illusive Man for the first time that can change a few small things. You can also download crafted save files, either from people who beat the first game, or ones created using Gibbed's save editor that set things up. Using the ME2 comic DLC doesn't provide a 100% experience, it skips little things like Conrad Verner and focuses more on things like is Wrex alive and what did you do with the Rachni Queen.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:20
|
|
|
Phrosphor posted:There is a DLC interactive comic for both games that lets you answer questions to set everything up. I think in ME2 if you don't have the DLC there are some questions you can answer when Miranda and Jacob are sanity checking Shep on the way to meet the Illusive Man for the first time that can change a few small things. Did you just call Conrad Verner a little thing?
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:21
|
|
|
Gamers: Make a decent game for once! Bioware: You first.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:22
|
|
|
Phrosphor posted:There is a DLC interactive comic for both games that lets you answer questions to set everything up. I think in ME2 if you don't have the DLC there are some questions you can answer when Miranda and Jacob are sanity checking Shep on the way to meet the Illusive Man for the first time that can change a few small things. Isn't that conversation in ME2 really only for the question of who became counsellor because the save ME1 creates to import into ME2 happens before that dialogue.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:23
|
|
|
TastyLemonDrops posted:Did you just call Conrad Verner a little thing? To be fair, being able to encounter him all the way through to ME3 was riddled with bugs so its unlikely more then a fraction of 1% of people enjoyed his antics for more then ME1. I remember reading in Penny Arcade that their review copy of ME2 had a feature that allowed them to set all the major/minor decisions that carried over into the game and it sounded loving amazing but then they updated the review that said feature was not available for the commercial release.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:24
|
|
|
TastyLemonDrops posted:Did you just call Conrad Verner a little thing? I have never encountered him past ME1 so to me yes he is.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:25
|
|
|
My avatar is very disappointed, as you can see. Looks like I can just use a save editor though. Thanks for the info.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 03:45
|
|
|
After spending a few months ignoring everything to do with Andromeda, I finally decided to watch some of the reveal trailers and gameplay videos, mainly because there's already a release date. The combat looks as exciting as ever, and considering I spent some 350 hours on ME3MP, I am certain I'll spend even more on ME:A's MP. Like, gently caress the SP, its probably gonna suck, but I'll finally be able to scratch that co-op sci-fi shooter itch Warframe wasn't quite able to satisfy. Also, I did not miss how the Salarian pilot paused meaningfully before saying 'invited' in that latest Tempest/Nomad trailer.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 04:15
|
|
|
Section Z posted:I would forgive the Kai Leng stuff if you always had an interrupt option to make Shepard act like he has no idea who the gently caress Kai Leng is. That's the funny thing about Kai Leng. There's a bunch of that in the game already. Thane talks about how lovely he is to lose to a dying drell. Bailey stops him by hacking the elevator. And Shepard spends the whole last encounter talking about how he's a whiny little loser. I think a decent chunk of the writing team thought of him the same way the played does. It's just that it wasn't unanimous.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 05:15
|
|
|
I didn't care about the voice acting with that salarian ship tour video, but goddamn they sure made a boring video. Also, I'd have forgiven Kai Leng if Bioware had put some flags such that if you beat him in battle and took a minimal amount of damage the dialog would show him becoming more and more scared of you or something and he became more and more unwilling to actually get int ocombat with you - eventually just giving up or showing up and then running away before being killed for being a pussy by TIM. That would have been okay, sorta. I mean, Kai Leng still was still a Gary Stu piece of poo poo and was terribly written/incorporated into the game. Drifter fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jan 13, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 05:44
|
|
|
Kibayasu posted:Isn't that conversation in ME2 really only for the question of who became counsellor because the save ME1 creates to import into ME2 happens before that dialogue.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 06:36
|
|
|
Drifter posted:I didn't care about the voice acting with that salarian ship tour video, but goddamn they sure made a boring video. Pet peeve: Mary Sue is gender neutral. It refers to overly perfect author self-inserts of all genders!
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 06:38
|
|
|
SaltPig posted:I wish bioware would just hire a serious sci-fi author to draw an outline for a story arc and let them fill in the rest. Yeah, like the worst written big franchise games did.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 07:05
|
|
|
marshmallow creep posted:THAT is never a guarantee. Bioware seems married to the idea of CC lighting being completely distinct from the rest of the game. So is Bethesda for that matter. If you want to change your appearance in Fallout 4 you have to go into a dingy poorly lit basement.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 07:19
|
|
|
I think the reason I liked ME1 so much is if you go back to the beginning it probably is the best Star Trek game ever made, sure it has dark moments just like the show however overall the Mass Effect Universe as first introduced was still optimistic and a little idealistic in tone. You're exploring the frontier of galactic civilization as part of the Federation attempting to stop the Borg from bringing down civilization. The entire final battle/scene is essentially an interpretation of the episode Best of Both Worlds, with how powerful Sovereign + Geth are compared to the Citadel Races, and how the main crew bring him down by infiltrating?
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 08:25
|
|
|
Jack2142 posted:I think the reason I liked ME1 so much is if you go back to the beginning it probably is the best Star Trek game ever made, sure it has dark moments just like the show however overall the Mass Effect Universe as first introduced was still optimistic and a little idealistic in tone. You're exploring the frontier of galactic civilization as part of the Federation attempting to stop the Borg from bringing down civilization. The entire final battle/scene is essentially an interpretation of the episode Best of Both Worlds, with how powerful Sovereign + Geth are compared to the Citadel Races, and how the main crew bring him down by infiltrating? This is true, I still like ME2, but it would be nice to have a bit of hope.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 11:37
|
|
|
Mass Effect 2 shifted its inspiration from Star Trek to Firefly.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 13:27
|
|
|
Last night I preordered this game. If my 360 was still alive I'd probably play through the previous games in preparation but I guess I will settle for watching some YouTubes. Any recommendations? Preferably something that just has the important story elements and without nasal nerd commentary.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 14:16
|
|
|
marktheando posted:Last night I preordered this game. The games are backwards compatible on the Xbox One, so if you still have the games, you can load them on that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 14:25
|
|
|
marshmallow creep posted:The games are backwards compatible on the Xbox One, so if you still have the games, you can load them on that. I got a PS4. It's very rare that I'm jealous of xbone owners, but this is one of those times. The other time was the whole Bethesda console modding fiasco.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 14:33
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 00:02 |
|
|
In that case, cheaper to get them on pc. Or watch an lp like you proposed, but I don't know of any that are any good.
|
|
#
?
Jan 13, 2017 14:53
|
|