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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Hey this guy^ is a scientist everybody!!
Beep Beep Bloop Blorp why do people with families or hobbies outside of work want to not be better at working? Note to self, research further

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JB50
Feb 13, 2008

FilthyImp posted:

Beep Beep Bloop Blorp why do people with families or hobbies outside of work want to not be better at working? Note to self, research further

This. Last thing Im doing outside of work is thinking about work.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Hah, some real dumbass idiots in this thread don't even know the point of existence is to toil and convert your time and energy into material wealth and prestige that you can then use to, whoops, you're dead from stress, hope your kids enjoy their inheritance.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
Material wealth and prestige would be a really nice reward for my toil. All I get is the ability to barely afford a one bedroom apartment. But at least I'm not a teacher.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Well that's how you get ahead as a teacher: work all summer.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Also lol at the dumbass that doesn't know that modern teachers post NCLB have mandatory Professional Development baked into their staff meetings.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



I think the argument that some people are trying to make with respect to blindly throwing more money at education is something like this: We all know teachers don't get paid enough for having to put up with so many kids while also trying to teach the brats. The problem is how top-heavy schools are, and all those administrators dip their beak in any extra money and the teachers get little of it. Much like the rest of, everything, the little guys get pitted against each other for crumbs while the guys in power eat all the pie.

For example, PDF warning, the HISD principals get paid a loving huge grip of cash http://www.houstonisd.org/cms/lib2/...%20Schedule.pdf compared to the teachers http://www.houstonisd.org/cms/lib2/...20Schedules.pdf

I will add, that for Houston, those are all comfortable salaries to live on. It's gotten more expensive here with respect to housing, but it's still not as bad as some other places in the country. Also, HISD takes roughly half of what I pay to the Harris county tax assessor each year. I have no children. Fort Bend county has some of the highest school district taxes in Texas, and they're the ones pissing it away on that stupid albatross of a football stadium. I wish there was more say on how the money gets spent when they come begging for more each year. I'd say give it to the troops on the ground instead of to administrators and football stadiums or whatever dumb poo poo they want to piss it away on. But I'm just some rear end in a top hat on the internet.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I don't think anyone is saying teachers get paid too much, just that in most areas their starting salaries are comparable to other college educated fields. A 21 year old in my area with a freshly minted degree can make $41k and finish their career at $80k+ (probably over $100k after 30 years of inflation). Those are good numbers. Maybe not great, maybe not as much as what they could've made working elsewhere - but good for public sector work. There are terrible places like North Carolina and Kansas, but they get lots of attention because they are exceptions to the norm.

But yeah, it's off topic and I don't want to see this thread closed so I'll stop talking about it.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
The last two posts picked on something that I'd like to mention.
So you decided to become a teacher. If you become good at it and want decent pay then work yourself up the ladder so you don't have to teach anymore!
You can't really be promoted enough without getting out of the classroom.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Fo3 posted:

The last two posts picked on something that I'd like to mention.
So you decided to become a teacher. If you become good at it and want decent pay then work yourself up the ladder so you don't have to teach anymore!
You can't really be promoted enough without getting out of the classroom.

This is literally the same as almost every other job. If you want to work up the ladder, you go into management or whatever the equivalent is.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

monster on a stick posted:

This is literally the same as almost every other job. If you want to work up the ladder, you go into management or whatever the equivalent is.

The problem with that is that management isn't taught. You are expected to just sort of work it out yourself.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

BloodBag posted:

I think the argument that some people are trying to make with respect to blindly throwing more money at education is something like this: We all know teachers don't get paid enough for having to put up with so many kids while also trying to teach the brats. The problem is how top-heavy schools are, and all those administrators dip their beak in any extra money and the teachers get little of it. Much like the rest of, everything, the little guys get pitted against each other for crumbs while the guys in power eat all the pie.

For example, PDF warning, the HISD principals get paid a loving huge grip of cash http://www.houstonisd.org/cms/lib2/...%20Schedule.pdf compared to the teachers http://www.houstonisd.org/cms/lib2/...20Schedules.pdf

I will add, that for Houston, those are all comfortable salaries to live on. It's gotten more expensive here with respect to housing, but it's still not as bad as some other places in the country. Also, HISD takes roughly half of what I pay to the Harris county tax assessor each year. I have no children. Fort Bend county has some of the highest school district taxes in Texas, and they're the ones pissing it away on that stupid albatross of a football stadium. I wish there was more say on how the money gets spent when they come begging for more each year. I'd say give it to the troops on the ground instead of to administrators and football stadiums or whatever dumb poo poo they want to piss it away on. But I'm just some rear end in a top hat on the internet.

lol I'd be circling the drain if I made 100k in this day and age. Get a comp sci major and business minor and coin out

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Fo3 posted:

The last two posts picked on something that I'd like to mention.
So you decided to become a teacher. If you become good at it and want decent pay then work yourself up the ladder so you don't have to teach anymore!
You can't really be promoted enough without getting out of the classroom.

Because dealing with admins and ridiculous parents is totally the best part of the job, and what people look forward to most about a teaching career

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
We interrupt Teacher Derail Chat to tell you that American Apparel is closing stores.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/companies/american-apparel-closing-stores-layoffs/

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Bonzo posted:

We interrupt Teacher Derail Chat to tell you that American Apparel is closing stores.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/companies/american-apparel-closing-stores-layoffs/

Turns out telling people they're too ugly to wear the clothes you sell is a poor business strategy!

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Bonzo posted:

We interrupt Teacher Derail Chat to tell you that American Apparel is closing stores.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/companies/american-apparel-closing-stores-layoffs/

They already closed off everything here in Canada. My wife got a bunch of stuff for like 85% off.

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

1 part gin
1 part pomegranate syrup
Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice

Bonzo posted:

We interrupt Teacher Derail Chat to tell you that American Apparel is closing stores.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/companies/american-apparel-closing-stores-layoffs/

I was surprised they were still around when that 5 Seconds of Summer song came out.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bonzo posted:

We interrupt Teacher Derail Chat to tell you that American Apparel is closing stores.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/companies/american-apparel-closing-stores-layoffs/

...Is that Faye Regan?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

whiteyfats posted:

...Is that Faye Regan?

Probably. AA was also known for hiring porn stars to model their clothes.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Yes it is. They used adult film starlets in advertising campaigns for a while.

Automatic Slim has a new favorite as of 20:36 on Aug 22, 2021

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bunnyofdoom posted:

Probably. AA was also known for hiring porn stars to model their clothes.

Ah, I see. I saw the music video the drag queens they used ad models for a while did, but I didn't know they also used legit hardcore porn stars, as well.

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice
Just heard the Sears at the local mall is closing. It sucks cause that mall is actually doing really well. I was sure it was on its way to deadmall status a few years ago when half the food court was empty, a bunch of other stores closed and the toys r us next door moved. A field and stream moved into the toys r us and they put a big spa place up front near the food court. I don't think there's any empty storefronts now and all the food court stalls are filled. It's always busy unless it's really early or just after lunchtime. I hope the Sears closing doesn't affect things too bad cause it's nice to go to a mall where there's actually people and like that commercial, sears always has parking and you can cut through to the mall super easy.

That sears got a lot of business from me. In the past few years I bought a washer, a TV, lots of tools, a couple of watches and used the tire center for stuff like when I didn't have time to do oil change or rotations. I always had coupons or got stuff at super sale prices. Never paid full price for anything there. I try not to pay top price for anything, anywhere but I really taped sears for deals. I guess I should salute the SS Sears as we all watch it slip beneath the waves into the briney deep.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



There's no way they survive past 2018 the way this is going.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Turns out telling people they're too ugly to wear the clothes you sell is a poor business strategy!

That's Abercrombie and Fitch. American Apparel doesn't care if you are ugly, but you have to be thin since I don't think they even carried fatty sizes.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
Apparently the Circus... who knew?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Circo Hermanos Caballero assumes its rightful place as America's best traveling circus!

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

Just heard the Sears at the local mall is closing. It sucks cause that mall is actually doing really well. I was sure it was on its way to deadmall status a few years ago when half the food court was empty, a bunch of other stores closed and the toys r us next door moved. A field and stream moved into the toys r us and they put a big spa place up front near the food court. I don't think there's any empty storefronts now and all the food court stalls are filled. It's always busy unless it's really early or just after lunchtime. I hope the Sears closing doesn't affect things too bad cause it's nice to go to a mall where there's actually people and like that commercial, sears always has parking and you can cut through to the mall super easy.

That sears got a lot of business from me. In the past few years I bought a washer, a TV, lots of tools, a couple of watches and used the tire center for stuff like when I didn't have time to do oil change or rotations. I always had coupons or got stuff at super sale prices. Never paid full price for anything there. I try not to pay top price for anything, anywhere but I really taped sears for deals. I guess I should salute the SS Sears as we all watch it slip beneath the waves into the briney deep.

Do you know sears marks poo poo up then makes "sales" on them or is this :thejoke:

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Zero One posted:

Apparently the Circus... who knew?

Apparently getting rid of the elephants put the nail in the coffin. Pro-tip: don't listen to people who aren't customers.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Krispy Kareem posted:

That's Abercrombie and Fitch. American Apparel doesn't care if you are ugly, but you have to be thin since I don't think they even carried fatty sizes.

A&F was the one where the CEO flat out said he didn't want ugly people in his clothes, but AA also had a reputation for only hiring pretty people. Sale associates were supposed to be brand ambassadors, and so they had to have a certain look which coincidentally was the kind of thin, white, and attractive (at least for the women) that they frequently featured in their ads. I think I also remember them getting some flack for supposedly firing a black woman over her natural hair, but I can't find the story now so grain of salt.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I wonder if they ever do analyses on the cost of bad PR vs. whatever sales they think to gain by customers wanting to gently caress the girl ringing up their poly-blend t-shirts. Probably not.

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice

Burt Sexual posted:

Do you know sears marks poo poo up then makes "sales" on them or is this :thejoke:

I got my stuff cheap. I checked. The watches I got were 50℅ off at sears. Way cheaper than anywhere else. The TV was a new model that was selling for $3k at the time. Sears had it for $1200. Insanely cheap for that particular TV. I still have it and it holds up to most new models.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

monster on a stick posted:

Apparently getting rid of the elephants put the nail in the coffin. Pro-tip: don't listen to people who aren't customers.

Are there fifty articles now blaming millenials for killing the circus?

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

A few years back I also remember there's no one wanting to be a clown anymore.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

CubanMissile posted:

I wonder if they ever do analyses on the cost of bad PR vs. whatever sales they think to gain by customers wanting to gently caress the girl ringing up their poly-blend t-shirts. Probably not.

Hey now. Those were 100% cotton.

I'll kind of miss AA. They made some good, quality basics and I actually have quite a few of their shirts from designers who used them as a supplier. I don't know if it was the decision to pursue becoming lifestyle brand that sank it, but if the choice was between weird poo poo that only certain people could or would wear and slightly expensive t-shirts that will hold up for years, they chose poorly.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

monster on a stick posted:

Apparently getting rid of the elephants put the nail in the coffin. Pro-tip: don't listen to people who aren't customers.

That's mainly because circuses are, and have always been, terrible from both an animal rights perspective and a "are you actually having fun" perspective.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

there wolf posted:

A&F was the one where the CEO flat out said he didn't want ugly people in his clothes,

http://i.imgur.com/N1eN444.jpg

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

CubanMissile posted:

Are there fifty articles now blaming millenials for killing the circus?

Millennials are to blame for all evil in the world. You just need, I dunno, Lady Gaga or Katy Perry to do a cover of "We Didn't Start The Fire."

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I used to buy all my shirts and hoodies from AA because it was the only place I knew of where everything fit just right. I just realized I haven't really bought new clothes in like four or five years. I have no idea where the cool kids shop anymore.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Josef bugman posted:

That's mainly because circuses are, and have always been, terrible from both an animal rights perspective and a "are you actually having fun" perspective.
Yeah, the only real value of a circus was basically finding a way to waste a day with a novel diversion, and that basically became obsolete once the television rolled around. Let alone the internet.

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Asimo posted:

Yeah, the only real value of a circus was basically finding a way to waste a day with a novel diversion, and that basically became obsolete once the television rolled around. Let alone the internet.

Concerts? Plays? Ballet? Stand up? Fireworks displays?

Watching anime on youtube?

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