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Arivia posted:Saying to an abuse victim that what they suffered for eight years was for their own good is a really, really lovely thing to do. I've been open in this thread that I was one of Zucker's patients. He ruined my life, and I'm still dealing with what he did to me today. I'm not interested in your lovely equivocation about what he was doing, because there's no way you can possibly understand what I went through. He's an abuser, plain and simple. Calm your tits lady, I don't come here to hurt anyone's feelings, I just take for granted that most of these socialists have pretty thick skin and wasn't attacking you personally. I'm very sorry to hear about your ruined life and hope you find some happiness in it
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 19:36 |
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Hexigrammus posted:poutine sauce and curds over rice on... rice? That doesn't sound right.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 19:45 |
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Furnaceface posted:ikantski is a troll and a jerk but I dont think he is actively malicious or hateful to anyone here. Ikantski is p great, he brings about a different point of view without the truck nuts. Postess with the Mostest posted:Calm your tits lady, I don't come here to hurt anyone's feelings, I just take for granted that most of these socialists have pretty thick skin and wasn't attacking you personally. I'm very sorry to hear about your ruined life and hope you find some happiness in it You're still a #1 best poster so keep on keeping on
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 19:46 |
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dude just posted a one sentance hot take on the somethingawful forums.. how dare he. How dare he!
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 20:47 |
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Energy poverty tears. I'd be curious to see her bills and an explanation to her strife https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/820287300936601600
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Risky Bisquick posted:Energy poverty tears. I'd be curious to see her bills and an explanation to her strife “I lived off Kraft dinner, hot dogs, whatever it took to survive but I bought that home and I’m proud. But something’s wrong now, Mr. Trudeau. My heat and hydro now cost me more than my mortgage,” she said. jesus what Also what does Trudeau have to do with Ontario hydro prices?
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 21:02 |
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CARBON TAXES
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 21:03 |
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If you're cutting back on food to buy a house you can barely afford, maybe don't buy that house.
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yellowcar posted:If you're cutting back on food to buy a house you can barely afford, maybe don't buy that house. If you gave Canadians a list of rights and freedoms they'd be willing to sacrifice for some sort of gain or purpose, "home ownership" would be the very last thing on the list, possibly even before driving. Home ownership is a social and economic good and the most basic thing you're supposed to achieve in your life to be counted as a real true middle class. If people are ruining their lives trying to become home owners it just means the government needs to do something about it. Oh but the government also shouldn't do anything that might lower or stagnate home prices, so just give people handouts, tax breaks, and easier access to crippling debt. It's not crippling debt if prices always go up, it's win win for society. People get houses, their house is a guaranteed good investment, and the cycle of middle class reproduction continues.
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yellowcar posted:If you're cutting back on food to buy a house you can barely afford, maybe don't buy that house. This. A thousand times this. What happens when interest rates go up? I own my house, but I could afford the mortgage at double my current interest rate. I don't understand why people don't consider that bills could spike, interest rates could spike, you might need to replace the roof, the furnace could fail, the hot water heater could fail, the foundation might crack, a pipe could burst, I could go on. There are a lot of 'unexpected costs' to home ownership and if you're not accounting for upkeep in the monthly budget you probably shouldn't buy a house.
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TrueChaos posted:This. A thousand times this. What happens when interest rates go up? Why? Because people are dumb as gently caress, that's why.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Energy poverty tears. I'd be curious to see her bills and an explanation to her strife Chalking this one up to brain damage. quote:Several years ago I awoke from acoma and spent years learning to walk with a brain injury. I went even further then ever expected because I am driven and strive to be a good example for my 4 children to follow. After several years of recovery and rehab I learned to walk and face every challenge with my now drop foot and atrohpied right leg incased in a orthopeadic brace up to my knees. I took life on with a great attitude and never looked back. Just 9 years ago I returned to college at the age of 44 and became a Personal Support Worker (NursesAide). I was working fulltime as soon as I finished college and told my family I was going to buy a home in 2 years by working tons of hours and eating cheap so I could save every dime. I bought my first home 2 years latter, then 4 years latter bought my second home as a single disabled mom. I was so proud of my home and love being excepted by my employer of now almost 9 years I am dedicated as respected the same as anyone else. Just over 2 years ago I bought my current home and it has been everything I have ever dreamed of owning and then some. I lived within my means and did without brand new cars and fancy clothes to be a homeowner. My youngest child my son told me I was his greatest inspiration because I never give up and I never let my disability stand in the way of my dreams or being a good person.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 21:25 |
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I guess it's fun to make fun of these people but they're really just misdirecting their anger at the wrong issues. Who can blame them for not really knowing the reason they can't afford proper houses or food isn't the money going to heat them.. it's the absence of good employment. Maybe they can't articulate that properly but so what.
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Do Ontario hydro bills not include the the amount of power that you actually use, in some sort of unit of power like kWh? It seems like that would be germane to the point being made. If the bill doubled, surely the point would be made much stronger by pointing out that the actual consumption of electricity was the same, instead of yammering on and on about which baseboard heaters were on or off and how cold the winter was, like some sort of innumerate imbecile.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 21:33 |
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Let me make this a more accurate depiction of a homeownership story. TrueChaos posted:bills will spike, interest rates will spike, you will need to replace the roof, the furnace will fail, the hot water heater will fail, Owning a house for any length of time guarantees all of these things will happen during the course of you owning it. A house is a machine. Roofs, hot water heaters, furnaces, siding etc are wear items. They are absolutely expected to need replacement. Buying a house and not calculating that into the price is like buying a car and going "What! I have to replace the oil and tires?"
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 21:42 |
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This is fun to watch, it's basically the perfect framing for the next election where the Canadian electorate gets to choose between two messages: - You are going to be materially worse off than your parents, your quality of life will be lower, things are hard and they're going to stay that way, because our economy has not kept pace with the effects of globalization and technological change. - Those drat <insert convenient scapegoat here> took your jobs, they're freeloading and abusing the system, and if we run them out/disadvantage them your life will be better! Guess which one is going to sell better to all these economically anxious working class Canadians? The Conservatives are already building a narrative around the latter, and the Liberals are clearly not interested in addressing the former. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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RBC posted:I guess it's fun to make fun of these people but they're really just misdirecting their anger at the wrong issues. Who can blame them for not really knowing the reason they can't afford proper houses or food isn't the money going to heat them.. it's the absence of good employment. She's not hydro poor, she's personal finance deficient. She's going to obviously strawman hydro as putting her into poverty, but her lack of budgeting is the root cause here. 2400 a month and shes going to buy a house, heat it with electric, and cars? Good luck with that. If someone really wants to dig you can pull up her mortgage from the land registry ($10) and work backwards to put a price on her failings. This is truely sad , but when interest rates rise the same thing will happen. People will strawman Trudeau for not protecting their mortgage. Here's the thing, The Fed rate is going up.
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who could have known you couldn't afford a house, car and 4 kids on 28,000 dollars a year?
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A Typical Goon posted:who could have known you couldn't afford a house, car and 4 kids on 28,000 dollars a year? Let's not fall into the trap of blaming poor/working class folks for wanting homes circa 2008 US Housing Crash. What foolish bank approved her mortgage?
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 22:33 |
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If I don't even want to buy a house, am I really a Canadian?
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 22:38 |
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I'm still not understanding how she pays around $800-900/month with $300 delivery? That's at least 2000 kWh/month @ 20 cents per for peak rates, and off-peak is less than 10 cents/kWh. Hell, it could be up to 5000 kWh/month if it's mostly off-peak usage.
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eXXon posted:I'm still not understanding how she pays around $800-900/month with $300 delivery? That's at least 2000 kWh/month @ 20 cents per for peak rates, and off-peak is less than 10 cents/kWh. Hell, it could be up to 5000 kWh/month if it's mostly off-peak usage. Maybe all of her planting is a basement grow-op.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 22:41 |
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A Typical Goon posted:who could have known you couldn't afford a house, car and 4 kids on 28,000 dollars a year? She's taking home 2400/month, that's more like 40k before taxes. With a single income it doesn't go far but sadly it's about average for canada. People are also missing that it's entirely possible hydro one hosed up her bill and has been overbilling her. It's happened to thousands of people and businesses.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:29 |
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They've probably manually checked her meter read since her story was made public so this doubtful.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:37 |
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It's fun to say stuff that you just make up on the spot and act like its authoritative.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:39 |
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RBC posted:It's fun to say stuff that you just make up on the spot and act like its authoritative. But enough about the RCMP.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:42 |
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RBC posted:It's fun to say stuff that you just make up on the spot and act like its authoritative. Do you think a publically listed company will sit idle with a PR disaster?
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RBC posted:She's taking home 2400/month, that's more like 40k before taxes. With a single income it doesn't go far but sadly it's about average for canada. It's almost like when you're a single parent of 4 kids the dream of home ownership might not be realistic on an income of roughly ~17$ an hour. Sad!
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Risky Bisquick posted:Do you think a publically listed company will sit idle with a PR disaster? Omg you're right, their customers might flock to the competition
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Omg you're right, their customers might flock to the competition Maybe they should set up their own co-op solar/wind farm and pass down the savings. Anyhow she shouldn't fret about hydro because in 5 years her house will be valued in the millions. It's hard to back the meter read was wrong given the other circumstances to her story. I'll be backing the she is wasting power with incandescent 100w bulbs, running her baseboard heating throughout her home, or perhaps is billed for two families worth of appliances in a rural area.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Maybe they should set up their own co-op solar/wind farm and pass down the savings. Anyhow she shouldn't fret about hydro because in 5 years her house will be valued in the millions. Oh yeah absolutely, it's completely normal for a bill to double in a year. And Hydro One is completely on top of billing errors, its not like they overbilled 100,000 people last year to the point of cutting off some people's power when they couldn't pay their fake bills.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Maybe they should set up their own co-op solar/wind farm and pass down the savings. Anyhow she shouldn't fret about hydro because in 5 years her house will be valued in the millions. No wind farms, what if some useless tit of an undertrained pilot can't avoid a 500' obstacle several miles from an airport???
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The Butcher posted:on... rice? That doesn't sound right. West Coast Fusion cuisine. That, and I needed to clean out the fridge.
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# ? Jan 15, 2017 00:27 |
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The gently caress is "poutine sauce"? We call it "gravy," thanks.
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PT6A posted:The gently caress is "poutine sauce"? We call it "gravy," thanks. If it comes from a can it is not gravy. Also apparently a train carrying a load of coal derailed in BC and there is worry of water contamination so people within 60km are being told to not drink water or something.
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# ? Jan 15, 2017 00:31 |
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Furnaceface posted:If it comes from a can it is not gravy. This is why we need coal pipelines.
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# ? Jan 15, 2017 00:39 |
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Furnaceface posted:If it comes from a can it is not gravy. If it comes from a can it shouldn't go on poutine. How hard is it to make gravy from stock with a roux like a normal-rear end functional person? Ideally the stock would be homemade but I'm not going to be too picky. I always make my own chicken stock because I have tons of chicken bones, but beef bones are harder to come by.
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eXXon posted:I'm still not understanding how she pays around $800-900/month with $300 delivery? That's at least 2000 kWh/month @ 20 cents per for peak rates, and off-peak is less than 10 cents/kWh. Hell, it could be up to 5000 kWh/month if it's mostly off-peak usage. How dare you question this lady's right to pursue her hobby of high-volume Electrical Discharge Machining in the comfort of her own home? Just another example of the cost of the Liberal's reckless environmental policy hurting Old Stock Canadian Families.
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PT6A posted:If it comes from a can it shouldn't go on poutine. How hard is it to make gravy from stock with a roux like a normal-rear end functional person? Ideally the stock would be homemade but I'm not going to be too picky. I always make my own chicken stock because I have tons of chicken bones, but beef bones are harder to come by. No one cares about the boring details of your life
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I'm so excited for CanPol: Gravy Chat Edition
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