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Kirios posted:Honestly I wouldn't even mind taking someone like Nathan Peterman in the 2nd or 3rd. He kind of reminds me of Kirk Cousins coming out. Don't do this to yourself.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Don't do this to yourself. what, the thing he does every year where he convinces himself the Texans NEED to draft an incredibly lovely quarterback because just signing one in the off-season isn't good enough?
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Jan 15, 2017 08:28
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Jan 15, 2017 08:53
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It's astounding how this is the fourth consecutive offseason where everyone says the Texans need a new QB. And they got new QBs each of the past three seasons!
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I'm not even being like Parmesan and demanding a team with Alex Smith to draft a QB (I would kill for Alex Smith). This is a team that has had the following QBs start the last three seasons: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler. Am I really going that far on a limb on this one? What the gently caress would you do if your franchise went into the last three seasons with that at quarterback? Yes, of course I'm going to continue to want a quarterback to be drafted high.
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Jan 15, 2017 09:23
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all-Rush mixtape posted:It's astounding how this is the fourth consecutive offseason where everyone says the Texans need a new QB. And they got new QBs each of the past three seasons! The Texans are the kind of team you point to when looking at like the Bills looking to dump Tyrod and go COME ON MAN.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:Don't forget Ryan Mallet. Those that I listed aren't even injury starters. The Texans literally started the season with those three at number one on the depth chart.
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Kalli posted:The Texans are the kind of team you point to when looking at like the Bills looking to dump Tyrod and go COME ON MAN. Yea or Romo. The Texans could easily pull a Denver and take the aging QB to the Superbowl. Plus Tony might actually be able to hit Hopkins consistently.
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Jan 15, 2017 19:19
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Doltos posted:LT for sure. Daltos - Please tell me about the top 3 or 4 RTs in the draft and if they will be around for pick #24. Thank you.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Yea or Romo. The Texans could easily pull a Denver and take the aging QB to the Superbowl. Plus Tony might actually be able to hit Hopkins consistently. He'll be a one year rental at best. We're gonna need a new Tackle, Guard and Center at least. Edit: Maybe not Center I remember we drafted one last year but he went down with an injury. But Newton is dead and Jeff Allen is a loving bum PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jan 15, 2017 |
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Jan 15, 2017 19:31
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Alaois posted:what, the thing he does every year where he convinces himself the Texans NEED to draft an incredibly lovely quarterback because just signing one in the off-season isn't good enough? Nate Peterman is not good, and won't be any better than Savage at the pro level, with a signficantly weaker arm to boot. They shouldn't waste a pick on him
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Jan 15, 2017 19:33
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PrinceRandom posted:He'll be a one year rental at best. We're gonna need a new Tackle, Guard and Center at least. Those things are totally doable in the draft along with FA.
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Carlosologist posted:are there any decent QB prospects this draft? I'm thinking that the Giants definitely need to start planning for the future and get someone who can step in after Eli becomes a pumpkin. the more pressing needs are a boost to the OL and depth at LB, I think A lot of developmental guys, and pretty much nothing but. Mahomes is my favorite.
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the best prospect this year is a 1 year starter from a basketball school that lost to nc god drat loving state and lovely duke
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Carlosologist posted:are there any decent QB prospects this draft? I'm thinking that the Giants definitely need to start planning for the future and get someone who can step in after Eli becomes a pumpkin. the more pressing needs are a boost to the OL and depth at LB, I think Tight End.
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MrLogan posted:Daltos - Please tell me about the top 3 or 4 RTs in the draft and if they will be around for pick #24. Thank you. Pre-combine it's looking like these guys in the top 100 that might be RTs: Roderick Johnson Taylor Moton Conor McDermott ~ kinda a tweener LG. Avery Gennesy Adam Bisnowaty I like to think that the shuttle and 3-cone tends to dictate which side the player is tried out on first when they hit the starting line. Usually the o-line is so injured you have to end up in multiple spots anyway and that's why o-line coaches love versatile players. Also a lot of teams are looking for great pass blockers on the right side because LE's aren't slow anymore. We'll see more about these guys when the combine comes around.
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FizFashizzle posted:the best prospect this year is a 1 year starter from a basketball school that lost to nc god drat loving state and lovely duke NC State was sneaky good this year. They were a short FG away from beating Clemson.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Nate Peterman is not good, and won't be any better than Savage at the pro level, with a signficantly weaker arm to boot. They shouldn't waste a pick on him I have noooooooooooooo idea what anybody sees in Peterman to justify the amount of times I've read his name in regards to the draft.
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FizFashizzle posted:the best prospect this year is a 1 year starter from a basketball school that lost to nc god drat loving state and lovely duke To be fair he lost to NC State in the literal middle of goddamn hurricane Matthew. The whole thing was a spectacularly entertaining shitshow. It really should've been called on count of weather. I don't like Kiser but that game shouldn't count when looking at his stats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JOynLpcfmk
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Ches Neckbeard posted:To be fair he lost to NC State in the literal middle of goddamn hurricane Matthew. The whole thing was a spectacularly entertaining shitshow. It really should've been called on count of weather. I don't like Kiser but that game shouldn't count when looking at his stats. He's talking about Trubisky.
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Jan 16, 2017 04:25
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big money big clit posted:He's talking about Trubisky. Does that rhyme with Bortles?
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Jan 16, 2017 04:38
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Miami should probably draft a linebacker or two but man I want OJ HOWARD so bad in this offense
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Time to start paying attention to the draft! Apparently this is a good year for secondary players? I think Seattle is gonna need a CB. Sherman is up there in age and Shead just sustained an ACL injury. To be honest, I think I would get this first over offensive line.
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I swear to god if the Bears don't draft Jabrill Peppers or Jamal Adams or any other top tier defensive player I may have to find a new team. They need help at so many positions, drafting a QB at 3 isn't going to do much for them.
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extendedsolo posted:I swear to god if the Bears don't draft Jabrill Peppers or Jamal Adams or any other top tier defensive player I may have to find a new team. They need help at so many positions, drafting a QB at 3 isn't going to do much for them. I'm all aboard the Jamal Adams train. I feel like free safety is the mist undervalued position on defense. A top flight guy just makes defenses great. But I have no problem with the Bears drafting a quarterback if they like one of them. You can't have long term success without one.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Miami should probably draft a linebacker or two but man I want OJ HOWARD so bad in this offense The Bucs should pick him up so we can keep running our giant receiver offense.
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Sataere posted:I'm all aboard the Jamal Adams train. I feel like free safety is the mist undervalued position on defense. A top flight guy just makes defenses great. that's how you get teams drafting christian ponder/jake locker/blake bortles.
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extendedsolo posted:that's how you get teams drafting christian ponder/jake locker/blake bortles. That's just hyperbolic bullshit. These are a different set of quarterbacks and they need to be evaluated on their own merits. Think of what people were saying about Wentz after being picked 2nd and being unheralded as a prospect. If you think the guy at three could be an above average starter for multiple years, you take him, even if a prospect grades higher positiionally. Because quarterbacks are that loving important. Trust your evaluation process, but you can't apply the same rules to quarterback if you need one. Or you end up the Texans at best. Just make sure you are evaluating him based on his skill level, not your own desperate hopes.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Miami should probably draft a linebacker or two but man I want OJ HOWARD so bad in this offense I'd prefer them to take a TE in the draft, but it's quite possible the Jaguars might be cutting Julius Thomas and I think that's a pretty easy fit there.
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Sataere posted:That's just hyperbolic bullshit. These are a different set of quarterbacks and they need to be evaluated on their own merits. Think of what people were saying about Wentz after being picked 2nd and being unheralded as a prospect. Wentz was more-or-less considered the best QB prospect during the draft process with Goff sorta rising as people second-guessed towards the end. He wasn't unheralded at all
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Wentz was more-or-less considered the best QB prospect during the draft process with Goff sorta rising as people second-guessed towards the end. He wasn't unheralded at all Nope. In an obvious self-brag I called Wentz back in January going in the top 15 and people asked me if I was serious. Goff held the #1 pretty much all year with Wentz being in the top 100 due to the FCS dominance of NDSU. Remember that Wentz was heavily injured that year and didn't have the greatest of seasons either. Besides that you easily had guys like Paxton Lynch holding the #1 or #2 spot all year due to stupid FBS hype. Then once the draft process hit it really looked like Goff ran away with the show in the combine. Then again Hackenberg also performed well in the throwing drills, but I digress.
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Doltos posted:Nope. I mean after the CFB season, into the combine and beyond. Wentz and Goff were neck and neck after the combine
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I mean after the CFB season, into the combine and beyond. Wentz and Goff were neck and neck after the combine He wasn't though. For most of the process, Goff was the clear front-runner. Wentz started making real noise about the month before the draft. For a majority of the process, nobody considered him a top five pick. And assuming he continues to progress, I am more than happy about where I drafted him if I'm an Eagles fan. Which is to say not very happy, because if I am an Eagles fan, I am incapable of experiencing joy. More and more, I adhere to the school of thought that you should draft whoever the gently caress you want in the first round. Just make sure you are right or you're getting fired.
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Sataere posted:That's just hyperbolic bullshit. These are a different set of quarterbacks and they need to be evaluated on their own merits. Think of what people were saying about Wentz after being picked 2nd and being unheralded as a prospect. Your last line is what most teams do, and I have no hope that the Bears can draft and develop a QB taken in the first any better than one taken in the 3rd or 4th.
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Doltos posted:Nope. Paxton Lynch went to Memphis, lets not pretend he was the product of a powerhouse school with all eyes on it. Carson Wentz started 1 and a half seasons at NDSU
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extendedsolo posted:Your last line is what most teams do, and I have no hope that the Bears can draft and develop a QB taken in the first any better than one taken in the 3rd or 4th. I'm not sure that is what most teams do. I think some move based on their rating system and I think some let outside factors like job security and media pressure convince them to act against their own best interests. You can't live life scared. I'm not saying that the Bears should take a QB. I am saying that if the Bears think there is a potential franchise QB at 3 and they pick a different position because they have him rated higher, than they are idiots.
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