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Clint Eastwood stars in What if Old and Racist But Good.
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Jan 15, 2017 06:10
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The worst thing about Grand Torino are the scenes with his family. They are badly written and unbelievable. The scene with his IRL son is also pretty dreadful, grade school tier acting.
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Jan 15, 2017 06:19
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FilthyImp posted:Clint Eastwood stars in What if Old and Racist But Good. Clint Eastwood stars in: What if I Have Human Compassion and it Exceeds My Racism Levels and the Outcome is Good
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Jan 15, 2017 06:20
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Yeah like wasn't the whole point of the movie that he learned to overcome prejudice even if he was still rough around the edges?
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Jan 15, 2017 06:40
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fat bossy gerbil posted:Yeah like wasn't the whole point of the movie that he learned to overcome prejudice even if he was still rough around the edges? No. The point is that he isn't even racist to start with, since he greets literally everyone in the movie with a racial slur, including his good friend, the barber, who he calls a polack 27 times in their one scene together. It's just everyone else making assumptions that he is racist because he uses racial slurs constantly. Again, it's a rich old man getting angry at political correctness for two hours.
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Jan 15, 2017 06:59
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I will credit him for not blaming the woman for getting raped. I think we're supposed to think his sons are reasonable for not wanting anything to do with him after being treated like poo poo and called fags for 50 years. That part seemed aware that Clint's character had done serious things that he needed to answer for.
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Jan 15, 2017 07:09
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So a commercial for the new XXX movie just spoiled that Ice Cube has a cameo. I'm sure the people who actually made the movie are super happy about that.
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Jan 15, 2017 07:48
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the best part about the new triple x movie is Sam Jackson saying something like "They're the new, hot team" while the male leads are overwhelmingly in their 40s and 50s.
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Jan 15, 2017 07:51
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Gran Torino suffers a lot from Clint's predisposition to shoot as few takes as possible, because what he runs with in that movie is really rough when he is relying so much on amateur actors.
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Jan 15, 2017 09:20
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Vegetable posted:Eastwood's latest good movie is Sully, drat it. It has Tom Hanks knocking it out of the park in a role where he doesn't get to shout and cry. Made me cry like a baby. It's a good movie dragged down by it pretending there was a huge conflict that didn't happen. I know movies based on a true story aren't going to be 100% accurate but with Sully it was blatantly obvious they were exaggerating and creating villains because they feared the facts alone weren't entertaining enough. My issues with Sully are somewhat similar with those of Deepwater Horizon. Both are fantastic at depicting the disaster scenario and it's immediate aftermath, but both are also bogged down with the scenes that are deemed to be necessary to make it an "actual" movie.
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Jan 15, 2017 11:06
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syscall girl posted:Clint Eastwood stars in: What if I Have Human Compassion and it Exceeds My Racism Levels and the Outcome is Good Clint Eastwood in: The Wrestler, But With Racism Instead of Wrestling.
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Jan 15, 2017 12:09
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Grendels Dad posted:Clint Eastwood in: The Wrestler, But With Racism Instead of Wrestling. Not saying he has it all together, just that Torino was good.
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Jan 15, 2017 12:28
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Mierenneuker posted:It's a good movie dragged down by it pretending there was a huge conflict that didn't happen. I know movies based on a true story aren't going to be 100% accurate but with Sully it was blatantly obvious they were exaggerating and creating villains because they feared the facts alone weren't entertaining enough. Doesn't really bother me, though. I treat it the same way I treated Steve Jobs -- as a fictional drama loosely based on real life. Unless I'm somehow personally invested in the original events, I don't see why we shouldn't give such films the same creative liberty we give fictional works.
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Jan 15, 2017 13:27
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hiddenmovement posted:The worst thing about Grand Torino are the scenes with his family. They are badly written and unbelievable. The scene with his IRL son is also pretty dreadful, grade school tier acting.
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Jan 15, 2017 15:40
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I enjoyed Gran Torino, but definitely can recognize all the faults and problems with the movie. I think it reached me more because my late father was a lot like the character Eastwood played when he was alive.
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Jan 15, 2017 17:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MItMDkc343M
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Jan 15, 2017 17:27
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Flight was a better Sully movie.
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Jan 15, 2017 18:36
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MariusLecter posted:Flight was a better Sully movie. I know it wasn't intentional but that movie makes cocaine look like a miracle drug.
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Jan 15, 2017 19:51
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Snowman_McK posted:Ah, Gran Torino, in which a rich old white man explains to two poor young minorities why political correctness is bad. I don't disagree about American Sniper, but I think you misread Gran Torino a bit. The whole point is that Clint Eastwood's views cannot survive in the modern era, and the best thing he can do is make way for minorities in a way that helps them up. It's shockingly not awful for something coming from Clint "yelling at empty chair" Eastwood.
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Jan 15, 2017 20:07
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I hate they raped that girl, when I saw the scene I thought they just shot up stuff and scared her but then Clint Eastwood's character later said You raped your cousin or something like that. Real lame to add that just to make the punks more monsterier
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Jan 15, 2017 21:38
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Clint Eastwood is basically just a more polished Frank Miller at this point.
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Jan 15, 2017 21:41
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What was the last great Spike Lee movie? Chi-raq was beautiful, bombastic nonsense but I'd hesitate to call it great.
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Jan 15, 2017 22:04
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precision posted:What was the last great Spike Lee movie? Chi-raq was beautiful, bombastic nonsense but I'd hesitate to call it great. Inside Man from 2006? I'm not that familiar wih his work after that.
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Jan 15, 2017 22:08
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K. Waste posted:Clint Eastwood is basically just a more polished Frank Miller at this point. And we have a shot across the bow.
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Jan 15, 2017 23:56
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K. Waste posted:Clint Eastwood is basically just a more polished Frank Miller at this point. Stealing this for any time anyone I know tries to tell me Gran Torino is good.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:02
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I don't disagree about American Sniper, but I think you misread Gran Torino a bit. The whole point is that Clint Eastwood's views cannot survive in the modern era, and the best thing he can do is make way for minorities in a way that helps them up. Except he did that earlier in Heartbreak Ridge with his Gunny character being too old-fashioned in the modern Marines and molding and making way for Mario Van Peeples to be the new Marine Corps compared to Everett McGill.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:02
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:It's not any good. Mark Wahlberg is the least believable serious cop possible. And even the Trent Reznor / Atticus Ross score is a real disappointment compared to their previous film scores.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:15
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NorgLyle posted:Since someone mentioned this and brought up The Departed on the same page I feel like I need to mention that his character in that movie was similarly the least believable serious cop in an otherwise pretty solidly okay film. It's like they wrote themselves into a corner and realized they had reached the end of the movie and, aside from losing Madolyn, nothing horrible had happened to Colin Sullivan so they went back and wrote in a completely useless rear end in a top hat cop caricature into a few scenes (where he doesn't, y'know, do anything actually related to the story or cause anything to happen) and then had him available to shoot Sullivan at the ending.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:18
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I was under the impression that the bad cop doesn't die until Infernal Affairs 3 (with 2 being a prequel). Edit: quote:In mainland China, an alternate ending for the film was created, in which Lau exits the elevator and is informed by Cheung that the police have found evidence that he was a mole. Lau hands them his badge and is arrested without protest. The sequel, Infernal Affairs III, uses the original ending instead of the alternate one. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jan 16, 2017 |
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Jan 16, 2017 00:21
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Casimir Radon posted:The same thing happens in the movie it is a remake of. One of us definitely needs to re-watch Infernal Affairs,because I'm pretty god damned it doesn't and the ending is the Matt Damon character gets away Scott free with a vague idea he'll be an honest cop from now on.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:25
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Skwirl posted:One of us definitely needs to re-watch Infernal Affairs,because I'm pretty god damned it doesn't and the ending is the Matt Damon character gets away Scott free with a vague idea he'll be an honest cop from now on.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:31
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E: nm
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Jan 16, 2017 00:51
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MariusLecter posted:Flight was a better Sully movie. I remember that movie losing me so bad when the pilot's drug dealer showed up in the hospital. It felt like they didn't have enough faith in a serious drama about a black man, so here's a wacky white dude to dominate the scene.
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Jan 16, 2017 01:14
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Was Sully actually good? I refused to see it when the trailers made it look like there was any kind of controversy about what happened. The real Sully was widely and immediately praised as a hero and any backlash at all was extremely minimal. I just don't know how or why you'd want to make that into a movie except as a way to counteract all the people who conflated the actual events of Sully with the fictional events of Flight.
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Jan 16, 2017 01:33
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Mierenneuker posted:It's a good movie dragged down by it pretending there was a huge conflict that didn't happen. I know movies based on a true story aren't going to be 100% accurate but with Sully it was blatantly obvious they were exaggerating and creating villains because they feared the facts alone weren't entertaining enough. ChickenMedium posted:Was Sully actually good? I refused to see it when the trailers made it look like there was any kind of controversy about what happened. The real Sully was widely and immediately praised as a hero and any backlash at all was extremely minimal. I just don't know how or why you'd want to make that into a movie except as a way to counteract all the people who conflated the actual events of Sully with the fictional events of Flight. I'm annoyed that people now hate and blame the real aviation security/investigation agencies for giving Sully such a hard time - when in reality they didn't. They did their loving job of investigating a controlled landing. The movie made people less trusting in the institutions made to protect them, because they made up that conflict for the movie. Decius fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jan 16, 2017 |
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Jan 16, 2017 11:35
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NorgLyle posted:Since someone mentioned this and brought up The Departed on the same page I feel like I need to mention that his character in that movie was similarly the least believable serious cop in an otherwise pretty solidly okay film. It's like they wrote themselves into a corner and realized they had reached the end of the movie and, aside from losing Madolyn, nothing horrible had happened to Colin Sullivan so they went back and wrote in a completely useless rear end in a top hat cop caricature into a few scenes (where he doesn't, y'know, do anything actually related to the story or cause anything to happen) and then had him available to shoot Sullivan at the ending. Mark Wahlberg isn't supposed to be a serious cop. He's part of the comic relief in the film along with David O'Hara and Alec Baldwin (who's loving hilarious in it). Wahlberg even gets the last punchline.
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Jan 16, 2017 11:46
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Decius posted:I'm annoyed that people now hate and blame the real aviation security/investigation agencies for giving Sully such a hard time - when in reality they didn't. They did their loving job of investigating a controlled landing. The movie made people less trusting in the institutions made to protect them, because they made up that conflict for the movie. Huh Clint Eastwood made a movie where a government agency was demonized inaccurately? I personally am shocked
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Jan 16, 2017 16:17
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I tend to think Mark Wahlberg is a a younger William H. Macy who doesn't know he's William H. Macy. He's the least believable serious x in any role, and should do nothing but dark comedies and Coen Brothers movies.
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Jan 16, 2017 16:58
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Simplex posted:I tend to think Mark Wahlberg is a a younger William H. Macy who doesn't know he's William H. Macy. This makes Boogie Nights one hell of a weird time travel movie.
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Jan 16, 2017 17:13
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I remember that movie losing me so bad when the pilot's drug dealer showed up in the hospital. It felt like they didn't have enough faith in a serious drama about a black man, so here's a wacky white dude to dominate the scene.
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Jan 16, 2017 17:57
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