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Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Thoguh posted:

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/821150417434398720

Twitter is mostly an echo chamber used for self validation you say? But "Delete your account" was the most retweeted thing ever! Clearly Hillary has this in the bag.

For real though, people basing stuff of of what is happening on Twitter, which is used by only a fraction of Americans, gives a very false sense about what the average American actually is thinking or experiencing. And that holds true for any social media.

can't blame them since tweets make major headlines on major news sites these days

the death of journalism is real

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Serf posted:

maybe bernie wanted to visit atlanta because georgia is awesome

*puts finger to ear*

wait, no, I'm being told that can't be right because georgia is garbage

If he was going to visit a good part of Georgia why would he be in atlanta???

Serf
May 5, 2011


Agean90 posted:

If he was going to visit a good part of Georgia why would he be in atlanta???

atlanta is the only part of this hellhole even remotely worth visiting

maybe savannah but even then, not really

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Agean90 posted:

If he was going to visit a good part of Georgia why would he be in atlanta???

Turns out socialist Jewish agitators for change don't have a good track record in rural Georgia

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Serf posted:

atlanta is the only part of this hellhole even remotely worth visiting

maybe savannah but even then, not really

Savannah rules to visit, but I grew up glynn county so my standards are abysmal

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Main Paineframe posted:

can't blame them since tweets make major headlines on major news sites these days

the death of journalism is real

in 2001 hideo kojima predicted that the internet would lead to an overwhelming glut of useless information and rumours that saps the electorate of the ability to make informed decisions about politics, and he did so in a videogame about clone butts

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Fallen Hamprince posted:

"my airtight plan to get rid of racism is 'night school for the klan' why wont any of you poor minorities vote for me"

WHat is Hillary's plan? Best I can tell it's a milder version of "keep whites and minorities separate but equal", i.e. the state of today.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

Serf
May 5, 2011


loquacius posted:

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

I don't think I knew Jewish people were a thing until I was at least 12, and even then they only showed up on TV. I met a couple in college and that was pretty much it. I did have a friend, real big pentacostal, say to my Jewish friend "you guys killed jesus" so lol

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
https://twitter.com/PollsterPatrick/status/821389906056531968

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

loquacius posted:

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

Jews have a long history of advocating for social equality, owing to the whole "kicked out of every country in the world" thing. The South didn't take to kindly to them helping out with the civil rights movement, and open anti-Semitism used to be a GOP platform plank. It got largely stomped out by the influence of William F. Buckley and his National Review bully pulpit, because Israel was a solid Cold War ally against the Soviets.

It still pops up every now and then, much more now that Buckley is dead. For example, how every bad thing Obama ever did against the right is the fault of Saul Alinsky, a man who died when Obama was 11.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Thoguh posted:

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/821150417434398720

Twitter is mostly an echo chamber used for self validation you say? But "Delete your account" was the most retweeted thing ever! Clearly Hillary has this in the bag.

For real though, people basing stuff of of what is happening on Twitter, which is used by only a fraction of Americans, gives a very false sense about what the average American actually is thinking or experiencing. And that holds true for any social media.

I do wonder what the intersection between "twitter user" and voter is.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/LGBTFORTRUMP/status/821378256041607168

:suicide:

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
Well I'm kind of glad for the death of mainstream media even if its in the most blatantly idiotic manner?



GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Huffington Post ran this essay in 2013 on Elliott County, Kentucky which voted Democratic in every single presidential election since it was incorporated in 1869 up to and including 2012.

Anyway Hillary lost it 70 to 25 lol

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

loquacius posted:

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

Please, globalists.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Lastgirl posted:

Well I'm kind of glad for the death of mainstream media even if its in the most blatantly idiotic manner?



:same:

Bill Buckner
Aug 14, 2005

loquacius posted:

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

Most racism I encounter is either directed toward black people or anyone with a name that could vaguely be construed as middle-eastern.

I've pretty much never encountered antisemitism offline, but that may have to do with Jewish populations being almost nonexistent in the region.

Hispanic people used to be on the receiving end pretty often around here as well, but it seems to have died down considerably in the last ten years, even with Trump stoking the flames recently.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

The Kingfish posted:

Since you shilled hard for Hill all primary does make you some sort of reverse accelerationist then? No way are you interested in "dismantling capital" what a crock poo poo. In fact, I'm pretty sure that during the primary you were arguing in YCS that a $200,000 income is middle class.

just lol dude

Yes I'm not an accelerationist but with Trump we get the grand experiment as to whether accelerationism works. I supported Clinton because I didn't think a popular leftist movement - as distinguished from a campaign for office - existed with Bernie and wanted to avoid the accelerationism we're gonna see with Trump.

And $200k is middle class; most of what we popularly consider middle class is actually working poor. Things are actually even worse than they seem!

Serf
May 5, 2011


WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Yes I'm not an accelerationist but with Trump we get the grand experiment as to whether accelerationism works. I supported Clinton because I didn't think a popular leftist movement - as distinguished from a campaign for office - existed with Bernie and wanted to avoid the accelerationism we're gonna see with Trump.

And $200k is middle class; most of what we popularly consider middle class is actually working poor. Things are actually even worse than they seem!

the middle class is a myth, designed to keep the poor arguing that they are, in fact, not poor

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

Jews have a long history of advocating for social equality, owing to the whole "kicked out of every country in the world" thing. The South didn't take to kindly to them helping out with the civil rights movement, and open anti-Semitism used to be a GOP platform plank. It got largely stomped out by the influence of William F. Buckley and his National Review bully pulpit, because Israel was a solid Cold War ally against the Soviets.

It still pops up every now and then, much more now that Buckley is dead. For example, how every bad thing Obama ever did against the right is the fault of Saul Alinsky, a man who died when Obama was 11.

Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were both Jewish

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Serf posted:

the middle class is a myth, designed to keep the poor arguing that they are, in fact, not poor

Eh, it exists in either the "managerial class" or the "is able to afford vacation and retirement white-picket-fencist" nostalgia sense

The myth is that the middle class has a lot of people still in it

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

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VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I supported Clinton

And $200k is middle class

sigh

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
At the 200k level you can't really use income alone to determine class membership.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Hello there, fellow poors! Whoah, time we did something about that darn capital gains tax, eh?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

What, you think "middle class" means median income?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

under marx class is determined by relationship to the means of production, so if ur a ~110% tru leftist~ then you'd have to know where the 200k comes from before you decide whether that person is permissible to guillotine

Serf
May 5, 2011


WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Eh, it exists in either the "managerial class" or the "is able to afford vacation and retirement white-picket-fencist" nostalgia sense

The myth is that the middle class has a lot of people still in it

there's only two classes of people: rich and poor, and you ain't rich until you've got a million plus to your name. anything less is just table scraps

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

zegermans posted:

Jews have a long history of advocating for social equality, owing to the whole "kicked out of every country in the world" thing. The South didn't take to kindly to them helping out with the civil rights movement, and open anti-Semitism used to be a GOP platform plank. It got largely stomped out by the influence of William F. Buckley and his National Review bully pulpit, because Israel was a solid Cold War ally against the Soviets.

It still pops up every now and then, much more now that Buckley is dead. For example, how every bad thing Obama ever did against the right is the fault of Saul Alinsky, a man who died when Obama was 11.

This is all stuff I knew, I was just wondering whether it actually translated from Confederate-flag-flyer types to the kind of people who actually care what Democratic politicians have to say about Martin Luther Kin Jr

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Fallen Hamprince posted:

in 2001 hideo kojima predicted that the internet would lead to an overwhelming glut of useless information and rumours that saps the electorate of the ability to make informed decisions about politics, and he did so in a videogame about clone butts

nah, it's click bait and the 24-hour-news-cycle

right now the Washington Post has four stories on their front page about the latest polls showing people don't like Trump, one about tweets he made in response to those polls, and one about Putin saying that Trump is totally a legitimate president and there was no Russian interference

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Fiction posted:

This was basically what we got with Obama and it was still better than what came before. More pressure on candidates would provide real change in this department if the dems ever got state houses/senates/the real house/the real senate again.
If the pendelum swings back the other way in spite of the democrats' incredible incompetence at winning elections, it will be a repeat of the 2008 congress with dems groveling under the boots of wall st and the health industries. The democratic party is fundamentally corrupt and broken.

Obama is certainly not better than what came before. Obama has been practically speaking very similar to bush's third and fourth terms and it's certainly not because of republican obstructionism.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
I'm middle class I'm middle class I scream as I fail to afford insurance and transform into a corn cob

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

What, you think "middle class" means median income?

making $200k puts you in the top 5% iirc

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Main Paineframe posted:

making $200k puts you in the top 5% iirc

Of earners. Not of wealth. It's a very critical distinction.

Serf
May 5, 2011


lmao didn't we talk a few weeks ago about how 60k is the median income because some idiot said 120k wasn't that much

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
$200k seems like upper-middle. At that point, it's probably a married couple who work for a living in an urban center.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I supported Clinton because I didn't think a popular leftist movement - as distinguished from a campaign for office - existed with Bernie and wanted to avoid the accelerationism we're gonna see with Trump.

This isn't coherent though?

e: Unless what you meant to type was, "I thought she could win and Bernie couldn't." Which is shameful but understandable.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



loquacius posted:

Do Southerners actually hate Jews or what because I've heard that a few times

As a jew that lived in and has family from the south, absolutely

Edit: getting "jewed" is still very commonplace

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 18:01 on Jan 17, 2017

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Of earners. Not of wealth. It's a very critical distinction.

not really

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Serf posted:

there's only two classes of people: rich and poor, and you ain't rich until you've got a million plus to your name. anything less is just table scraps

a million in savings just means you can afford to retire comfortably and on time, 'rich' in america means your car has an elevator

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