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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So is porn bad because its obscene/harassment/etc or because it is "anti-social?" Is watching the sportsball game instead of porn also anti-social? Or sending dirty text messages? Anti-social doesn't mean "I don't want to deal with people" in this context. It means doing something that upsets social order and niceties. The illusion of privacy you have for your phone on public transport is a social construct; it's people pretending not to see whatever you're doing, not actually not seeing it. Forcing people to look at obscene material in that kind of situation where they are discouraged from calling it out because of the illusion of privacy is anti-social and could be viewed harassment.
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Of everyone in here that spent the last several pages talking about it, the poster who posted as part of a several page ongoing conversation and then almost immediately realized it was inappropriate and removed said posts is the one who pissed someone off enough to buy them a redtext? To think that for a moment I almost forgot how lovely this thread was to post in. Does anyone want to hear more about women getting involved in MA politics by the way, both currently and in recent history? It's a pretty interesting topic, imo, and we have a guest speaker coming in next month. I could write that up, depending on how it goes. Preferable without it needed to be prompted by WaterOverFire GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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GlyphGryph posted:Of everyone in here that spent the last several pages talking about it, the poster who posted as part of a several page ongoing conversation and then almost immediately realized it was inappropriate and removed said posts is the one who pissed someone off enough to buy them a redtext? There is someone in this thread who likes buying red text. I got mine for, like, two dumb posts. Nice to have money I guess.
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GlyphGryph posted:Of everyone in here that spent the last several pages talking about it, the poster who posted as part of a several page ongoing conversation and then almost immediately realized it was inappropriate and removed said posts is the one who pissed someone off enough to buy them a redtext? honestly it's so goofy I wouldn't even take it seriously and I doubt the person who bought it was being serious. When you say MA you mean Massachusetts? I'd like to hear about that; I lived in Boston for years and the local political climate was extremely man-heavy.
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Kelp Me! posted:honestly it's so goofy I wouldn't even take it seriously and I doubt the person who bought it was being serious.  My own fault, in the end, red text is almost always inevitable.Kelp Me! posted:When you say MA you mean Massachusetts? I'd like to hear about that; I lived in Boston for years and the local political climate was extremely man-heavy. Yeah. It feels like, at least from the bits I've been exposed to, women have been having a lot of success making inroads. Still a good ol' boys club in many places, but improving all the time. Which makes sense, since the political machine here is generally resistant to any sort of change so it takes a while for seeds that have been planted decades ago to really start growing, but it's nice to see. My local DTC is almost completely women so they tend to push exposure to women's issues stuff (which is a good thing).
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GlyphGryph posted:I liked the gift avatar I had before and never thought to save a link to it. Are you in Boston our outside of it? Last time there were elections for Boston and the immediate surroundings (Watertown, Brookline, etc.) the candidates were really heavily skewed, but I never paid attention to anything outside of the immediate area, tbh. It's a pretty weak burn in your red title anyway so just look at it as "some idiot got mad because I was responding to the current topic of discussion" and be proud that your legit truthbombs made someone so frothy they spent actual money on a milquetoast red title
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GlyphGryph posted:Does anyone want to hear more about women getting involved in MA politics by the way, both currently and in recent history? It's a pretty interesting topic, imo, and we have a guest speaker coming in next month. I could write that up, depending on how it goes. Preferable without it needed to be prompted by WaterOverFire I feel like my biggest hurdle is the sheer time I need to commit. Like it's easy to follow politicians on twitter and sign petitions and read documents but I work in the burbs and I can't get back into the city for meetings until 6:30 earliest.
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Kelp Me! posted:Are you in Boston our outside of it? Last time there were elections for Boston and the immediate surroundings (Watertown, Brookline, etc.) the candidates were really heavily skewed, but I never paid attention to anything outside of the immediate area, tbh. I'm a bit outside of it, actually, to the northwest. Concord area, formerly Malden. Even my "Boston" experience is largely Cambridge rather than actually-Boston. I've pretty much exclusively lived and worked with people from Middlesex County, so I've only got secondhand knowledge of most of the rest of the state (politically speaking). I'll take some notes and pass along any info I think you guys will find useful, and specifically ask some of the women in my DTC if they have any good suggestions on resources for women getting involved here.
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GlyphGryph posted:Of everyone in here that spent the last several pages talking about it, the poster who posted as part of a several page ongoing conversation and then almost immediately realized it was inappropriate and removed said posts is the one who pissed someone off enough to buy them a redtext? Are you talking about Wu specifically? I figure there's a lot more then her though seeing as it sounds like Boston is an old boys club.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Why can't Martha Coakley win an election to save her life? Hey, she won the AG election pretty effectively! I'm only really familiar with her police related stuff, beyond that she seems very "generic Dem". I know she had to have her hand forced before she was willing to indict a police officer over sexually abusing a baby. More generally, she immediately goes to the mat for the police no matter how obvious or egregious their misbehaviour, which has earned her loyalty among the state political apparatus but mistrust among many state progressives. I don't know how she managed to lose both Gov and Senate to Republicans. I don't think you can pin it on sexism considering that Warren did quite well by comparison with the same voters against the same guy. At a guess, it feels like she failed to turn out the base or was seen as too much of a machine politician (or, more likely, is just a really bad campaigner, which hurts you less in elections for things like, say, AG, where you aren't really expected to be seen as a leader or politician or representative but as someone who gets a specific job done) Anti-Citizen posted:Are you talking about Wu specifically? I figure there's a lot more then her though seeing as it sounds like Boston is an old boys club. Nah, wasn't even thinking about Wu. She's not, like... a real candidate, is she? I thought that was a media grab publicity stunt run rather than a serious attempt, but I haven't really followed it. I could talk about women like Marilyn Petitto Devaney all day though, she's super awesome. I mean, we disagree on some things politically, but she seems like a genuinely great person and I'm glad to have her in the seat (she represents my district) She's a member of the Governor's Council I mentioned previously - she ran for office after a friend of hers was murdered by an ex, after the 8th time she want to court begging to get some sort of protection from him and being told by the judge that she was "wasting her time" because the judge thought he was an alright bloke. Decided that she was going to do what she could to make sure potential judges who didn't take the safety of women seriously didn't get a seat in this state. GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Coakley continues to catch a lot of poo poo for prosecuting (as assistant district attorney) and subsequently (as district attorney) refusing to admit mistakes in prosecuting the Fells Acres abuse case, which was recovered memory satanic panic nonsense ala the McMartin preschool trial that sent demonstrably innocent people to prison. She could have granted them clemency but refused so that she could continue to seem tough on crime. Instead she reduced one sentence to time served after the lady spent a decade in prison but included another decade of probation as a condition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fells_Acres_Day_Care_Center_preschool_trial How much she personally is to blame for the convictions I can't really say, and it can't all or mostly be blamed on her, but refusing to let the victims out of prison is pretty lovely, if not typical of prosecutors.
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GlyphGryph posted:Of everyone in here that spent the last several pages talking about it, the poster who posted as part of a several page ongoing conversation and then almost immediately realized it was inappropriate and removed said posts is the one who pissed someone off enough to buy them a redtext? For what it's worth I don't think that the redtexts generated from here, Negrotown, or the Misogynoir threads actually come from the regular posters, but from assholes trying to make them look bad. GlyphGryph posted:I liked the gift avatar I had before and never thought to save a link to it. https://esarahpalinonline.com/soap/ That'll have it.
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Who What Now posted:For what it's worth I don't think that the redtexts generated from here, Negrotown, or the Misogynoir threads actually come from the regular posters, but from assholes trying to make them look bad. I have noticed that most of the feminist thread red texts seem very eager to make the public know that the red text was got in the feminist thread in particular.
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Who What Now posted:https://esarahpalinonline.com/soap/ Doesn't work unless I currently have an avatar. drat you, red-texter, at least put in some sort of garbage stupid idiot image or something next time! Edit: Much thanks to the management, I got it now! Jack Gladney posted:Coakley continues to catch a lot of poo poo for prosecuting (as assistant district attorney) and subsequently (as district attorney) refusing to admit mistakes in prosecuting the Fells Acres abuse case, which was recovered memory satanic panic nonsense ala the McMartin preschool trial that sent demonstrably innocent people to prison. She could have granted them clemency but refused so that she could continue to seem tough on crime. Instead she reduced one sentence to time served after the lady spent a decade in prison but included another decade of probation as a condition: That's actually kind of gross combined with the her unwillingness to prosecute a cop that actually was involved in child abuse... but again, pretty typical for a prosecutor. Also, this reminds me that I really should try and find out more about my local House rep, Kate Hogan, and see what she's about. GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Thanks for the book suggestions, even though they were a couple pages ago--thread moved fast. I really like remapping texts. I think they are important. Same thing with podcasts like The Dollop and Things You Missed in History Class. Anything that subverts common ideas of history or talks about a new viewpoint.
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stone cold posted:I think that's precisely the sort of issue we're facing right now, such as with the women's march on Washington, where we are seeing certain white feminists refusing to cede ground to more POC women in leadership roles, and feeling threatened at having their racism called out. On the other hand, I'm glad to see this critique and to see people speak out against these racial issues. Fascinating stuff! There's always been the problem of intersectionality in all left wing activism and feminism isn't any different in that regard, sadly. BarbarianElephant posted:There is someone in this thread who likes buying red text. I got mine for, like, two dumb posts. Nice to have money I guess. also wait a minute whoaahhh, this time its been upgraded ahahahaha, that's some salty rear end poo poo
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I don't know about right now, womanism isn't exactly some hip new thing just hitting the waves as we speak. I didn't say it just started, I said it was relevant to today and right now. I think you misread my post. Also, I think more and more people are acknowledging these issues than before.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I have noticed that most of the feminist thread red texts seem very eager to make the public know that the red text was got in the feminist thread in particular. That or the PoC thread. And ugh, they really do feel kinda low-effort. Deceitful Penguin posted:Ahhh, ok. Sorry, this comes up a lot here because in many ways racial/ethnic issues are not part of the official feminist discourse in the Nordics and there's surprisingly many Icelandic feminists who are completely unaware of a lot of the theoretical framework which we operate in now was created as a response to the white hegemony within early feminism. My experience of Sweden was that it was pretty far ahead of most of the rest of the world on feminist issues (e.g. the laws on family leave and child care come to mind), but hoo boy was there a chunk of the population with some pretty hosed up and dated views on race and immigration. Since we're talking internationally, it's pretty interesting to look up representation of women in parliaments. Nordic countries are pretty high up there, as are South Africa and Mexico (the former since Apartheid ended, the latter over the last ten years), as well as a handful of other African and Latin American countries. And then you go further down the list. Much, much further. Did you know that Saudi Arabia has greater representation of women in their national legislative body than the United States? Now you do.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:That or the PoC thread. And ugh, they really do feel kinda low-effort. Lead out in cuffs posted:My experience of Sweden was that it was pretty far ahead of most of the rest of the world on feminist issues (e.g. the laws on family leave and child care come to mind), but hoo boy was there a chunk of the population with some pretty hosed up and dated views on race and immigration. Lead out in cuffs posted:Since we're talking internationally, it's pretty interesting to look up representation of women in parliaments. Nordic countries are pretty high up there, as are South Africa and Mexico (the former since Apartheid ended, the latter over the last ten years), as well as a handful of other African and Latin American countries. flashman posted:The model of Nordic socialism will lend itself naturally to anti immigration sentiments while uplifting the status of other groups within the accepted ethnic groups whom are marginalized in other Western nations.
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As much as we like to talk about how loving lovely North America is for women, there's no denying that it's actually the whole entire world that's lovely to us in different capacities. And speaking of I'm wondering what are some of the thoughts surrounding maternity leave and parental leave. I'm due in April and I'm lucky enough to live where we get a year of paid maternity leave, as well as the fact that my employer will top up my employment insurance so I'll be making 93% of my salary. It is extremely depressing to me to read about women in other countries who will maybe get four weeks of unpaid leave, and that to me is completely and totally inappropriate. There are a lot of benefits to maternity and parental leave but most organizations seem to be focussed on the bottom line only, and so it creates this system that devalues things like parenthood and work that women do because a lot of employers wind up being sexist and worrying about things like not wanting to hire women in fear that they're going to be needing maternity leave. All this and not even touching on the fact that I've read of women in at-will states being fired because they get pregnant and it's basically completely legal.
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Maternal and Paternal leave are honestly such basic human rights to me that the lack of it was one of the main reasons I never wanted to move to the US. (Which made things complex with my American ex) The lack of it damages the lives of both parents and the children! I mean, how the heck is that not obvious?? And paternal leave is also important in so far as it means that hiring men isn't more advantageous because ~dey wont get pregnant like those women~ here because they're required to take it or lose it and so they of course use it, with the situation being the same afaik in the rest of the Nordics (with some more transferable time too)
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Yes it really forces this idea that hiring men is incentivized and hiring women is detrimental. It also perpetuates this idea that women are responsible for being the sole provider of parental responsibility. Completely ignores the fluidity it creates in the workforce, employee satisfaction/retention and the tax dollars it saves. Just at this point in my life I cannot even fathom taking a month or more off with no income coming in, then returning while leaving an infant elsewhere during crucial bonding time. It hurts to think about how much more profoundly this affects single mothers and women living in poverty Defenestration posted:I'm pretty sure it's not legal to fire a woman for getting pregnant nationwide but good loving luck proving it or taking the employer to court That's the problem. It's not legal but there's no shortage of women in at-will states that coincidentally find their positions redundant.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Maternal and Paternal leave are honestly such basic human rights to me that the lack of it was one of the main reasons I never wanted to move to the US. (Which made things complex with my American ex) Yeah even if we had parental leave it would have to be mandatory or it would effectively not exist because there would be a stigma against taking it. But that runs aground on our culture, with the "nobody's gonna tell ME what to do!" and the "puritan work ethic" bullshit. All time you don't spend working or developing ways to do more work is wasted and tantamount to theft. You can find goons espousing these values all over the forums without even being aware of what they're saying.
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My wife's area of expertise is childhood brain development, and the first few years are so incredibly important for brain development and parent attachment/linguistic environment are so important to that development that its insane America forces parents to go back to work so early. The word gap is a very real problem that affects the achievement trajectory of kids for their entire life. You don't even really need specialized parenting skills, literally just being around the kid and talking about anything or nothing promotes language acquisition and brain development. Read trash romance novels to your kid, whatever, it all works. The lack of maternal/paternal leave and failure to foster strong early childhood environments in America does more to create educational and achievement inequalities than almost anything else. Yeah our public school system is also falling apart, but kids from secure households with strong attachment and language exposure develop a lot of resilience to lovely schools and can succeed in spite of their education system. Universal Pre-K is a step forward here but doesn't substitute for parent involvement. Even the most well intentioned pre-K programs (which is what I did for awhile) can't match the one on one development of the family. Its absurd that America doesn't invest in its future with universal parent leave (followed by universal Pre-K). Theres also the fact that infant/toddler care is an extremely inelastic expense for families that can't rely on one parent quitting work or close family. They don't have a choice, they *must* pay for childcare. This means many families may ultimately be realizing a loss if both parents continue working, because the cost of childcare may be more than their income. But of course they can't quit because good luck getting a career back on track after that. And this gets significantly shittier for single (mainly women) parents, who may be spending the bulk of their single parent income on child care that will be strictly inferior to their personal care, but must keep working anyways to keep health care coverage and assistance eligibility because of the dumb rear end Calvinism/Prosperity Gospel ingrained in this stupid country. The whole American system of childcare and maternity is extremely hosed up and incredibly regressive. But its also par for the course for a country that still relies on private insurance and believes the free market is always right.
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So this happened: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/01/17/pro_life_feminist_group_new_wave_feminists_removed_from_women_s_march_partnership.html A pro-life feminist group wanted to join the Women Against Trump march happening in a few days, the WAT leadership put them on as a sponsor, then removed them after criticism. It's always interesting the tradeoffs and uncomfortable alliances that activists have to make in order to further their cause. Kinda like the Democratic strategy of getting minorities that trend socially conservative onboard with the party of gay marriage, etc. etc. because the alternative is the Republicans. In this case the WAT leadership definitely made the right call although I wonder why they didn't make it from the beginning. If they do alienate anyone as a result of this move it's probably only a very small overlap between the Venn sets of pro-life women and women willing to vote HRC over Trump. And if they didn't they'd lose tons of support. So it seems like a no-brainer.
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DeusExMachinima posted:So this happened: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/01/17/pro_life_feminist_group_new_wave_feminists_removed_from_women_s_march_partnership.html There's been a whole lot of this stuff, because yeah, they went into this with the naive idea of an big open umbrella. They're still pretending to be non-partisan, too, but everybody knows the deal, and everybody knows that if you're not on board with the partisanship you're gonna be really loving uncomfortable at the march. Looping any pro-life group in was just asking for problems. On the same note, my feed has been blowing up all week because of subtle edits to the "guiding vision" document. For example, there was a line in there that said "we stand in solidarity with the sex workers’ rights movement." A bunch of people got really upset about that, including survivors of sex trafficking. So, they removed the line, and replaced it with "we stand in solidarity with all those exploited for sex and labor." So, the circle I follow got really upset about that, and now it says "and we stand in solidarity with the sex workers’ rights movement. We recognize that exploitation for sex and labor in all forms is a violation of human rights" and the former group is upset again. Ooof. [e: fixed wording] BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Not a Step that's very interesting about your wife. And yes, our brains develop more in the first three years of life than they ever will again in our entire lives so that parental attachment and language/motor skill acquisition is so necessary. It's at the point where I've considered potentially leaving my own job to find something part time because even with a year off, childcare is so expensive so why not just take a pay cut? Why work for a sizeable chunk of my salary to go to someone else, possibly a stranger, raising my child in these crucial developmental years? As for the rally, I truly cannot comprehend divorcing feminism from being pro-choice. Being hardcore prolife just goes against so many principles of feminism re: bodily autonomy, governance of women's bodies, women's health/wellness and access to health care. Being an individual who identifies as prolife while being a feminist is one thing because I can understand the complexity of culture, religious background and such but a "prolife feminist group"? Does not compute. 54 40 or fuck fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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54 40 or gently caress posted:I truly cannot comprehend divorcing feminism from being pro-choice. Being hardcore prolife just goes against so many principles of feminism re: bodily autonomy, governance of women's bodies, women's health/wellness and access to health care. The argument I've had pitched to me is that, assuming you accept personhood of the fetus, about half the time (or more often due to discrimination) it's a woman's life that is being ended. All her future health, wellness, choices, and autonomy will all be gone. IMHO there's not much sunlight between that argument and the argument that sex work should be prohibited whether or not the worker consents because it could under certain circumstances lead to increased sex trafficking or child prostitution. You're taking away one choice from someone for the sake of saving many other choices which squares just fine with a certain reading of the public good.
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54 40 or gently caress posted:Not a Step that's very interesting about your wife. And yes, our brains develop more in the first three years of life than they ever will again in our entire lives so that parental attachment and language/motor skill acquisition is so necessary. Its very difficult to get back into employment after dropping out of the labor force to raise a kid. You're seen as even more of a threat of leaving to pursue family because you've already done it once. Like everything else your experience may vary and I hope things work out well for you. If you do have to work your way through the early years don't despair too much. Just make a conscious effort to use more words around the kid to make up for lost time. The trick is infants don't understand *anything* of whats going on around them, so theyre constantly trying to pattern match sounds and pair up words and objects and its a hell of a mental workout. The more words you use around them the harder their little brains work to make sense of things. And don't just talk about concrete objects, like 'ball' or 'chair' or whatever. Challenge them by using words about things that aren't there. Read out loud to them, and not just children's books. Read anything that comes to hand. Seriously if romance books are your thing thats fine reading material for an infant. Or Ikea instructions. Literally anything. Its less about 'teaching' them words and more about the mental workout of just listening really hard to whatever it is you're saying even if they don't understand it at all. Avoid 'cheats' like baby language, don't offer shortcuts. Exercise really is a good analogy for it, because its not about doing useful work with the weights, its about moving them around. Its unfair to expect you to both hold a full time job *and* invest time in a second full time job of child raising, but sadly America is poo poo. Time invested early pays dividends in resiliency and self direction later in life though. Whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck. Nix Panicus fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah even if we had parental leave it would have to be mandatory or it would effectively not exist because there would be a stigma against taking it. But that runs aground on our culture, with the "nobody's gonna tell ME what to do!" and the "puritan work ethic" bullshit. All time you don't spend working or developing ways to do more work is wasted and tantamount to theft. You can find goons espousing these values all over the forums without even being aware of what they're saying. The reason it is mandatory is absolutely to avoid what you're talking about; these types exist here as well, though they're not as powerful or loud as in the US. Not a Step posted:My wife's area of expertise is childhood brain development, and the first few years are so incredibly important for brain development and parent attachment/linguistic environment are so important to that development that its insane America forces parents to go back to work so early. The word gap is a very real problem that affects the achievement trajectory of kids for their entire life. You don't even really need specialized parenting skills, literally just being around the kid and talking about anything or nothing promotes language acquisition and brain development. Read trash romance novels to your kid, whatever, it all works. The lack of maternal/paternal leave and failure to foster strong early childhood environments in America does more to create educational and achievement inequalities than almost anything else. Yeah our public school system is also falling apart, but kids from secure households with strong attachment and language exposure develop a lot of resilience to lovely schools and can succeed in spite of their education system. It's of course subsidized by the government, because otherwise it quickly becomes a prohibitive expense. Like, one of their figures once said that the universal kindergarden system and paternal/maternal leave was their biggest modern victories and from these two pillars grow a lot of the good thangs for nordic women. And once they had been implemented, the public good was obvious, though this hasn't stopped right-wingers from of course trying to undermine it like everything good in the world. also good to see the old left-wing circular firing squad getting some new work
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