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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

What does reposting some Trump fan's angry racist tweets have to do with The Democrats and their factional struggle tho

zegermans posted:

Your first mistake was assigning higher brain function to these people.

The point of the post you quoted here is that I was talking about a completely different set of people, actually

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BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Concerned Citizen posted:

i've heard that bernie sanders himself makes 6 figures

He fights for poors despite not being himself poor, he fights for black rights despite not being black... Such treachery! Not only does he betray his own class and race, but he betrays those he fights for by not being exactly like them!

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

BurntCornMuffin posted:

He fights for poors despite not being himself poor, he fights for black rights despite not being black... Such treachery! Not only does he betray his own class and race, but he betrays those he fights for by not being exactly like them!

yes, i clearly mentioned bernie's salary as an attack on him

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
bernie sanders was poorer than like everyone itt at several points of his life tbf

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/821225626334007296

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Tatum Girlparts posted:

here's a tip, if your lifestyle depends on 'working hard' you are and always have been 'working class', that's what that means. Middle class literally was a term meant to draw a line between some workshop worker who was making decent wages but doing gross hand work like some kind of goddamn poor and the law clerk or whatever who was making a little less but had nice pretty soft hands like a good rich boy

nah, it predates that, even. "middle class", originally, referred to people who were neither nobles nor peasants. the upper classes were landowning nobles who made their money through rent-seeking, the lower classes were peasants and serfs who made a living working the fields, and the middle class was mostly city-dwellers who didn't own land but made their living through commerce - merchants, craftsmen, and so on

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Concerned Citizen posted:

hell, jane sanders made $160k from burlington college and she managed to literally kill it in just 4 years

Are you loving kidding me?:psyduck:

What, exactly, is this impulse in Clinton diehards, to lash out at Sanders and his wife personally?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Majorian posted:

Are you loving kidding me?:psyduck:

What, exactly, is this impulse in Clinton diehards, to lash out at Sanders and his wife personally?

CC's entire schtick agreeing that Clinton's campaign was bad and that the party needs a new direction, but steadfastly argue against every specific point of criticism and the idea that anything should be changed at all. Bernie's continued existence and leftist agitation poses an significant problem to that.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

anime was right posted:

bernie sanders was poorer than like everyone itt at several points of his life tbf

The dude dug his own outhouse.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Captain_Maclaine posted:

CC's entire schtick agreeing that Clinton's campaign was bad and that the party needs a new direction, but steadfastly argue against every specific point of criticism and the idea that anything should be changed at all. Bernie's continued existence and leftist agitation poses an significant problem to that.
this is pretty much every diehard class-exclusionary idpol actually since you now even get dogpiled in d&d for saying that clinton's campaign made less mistakes than what has consistently been demonstrated and blatantly obvious

though you get dogpiled in d&d by the trump supporters and liberterians simply stating the obvious flaws in clinton's campaign because socialists are instaprobated on sight for being "racsexist" (a term that describes someone who is neither racist or sexist but have the gall to suggest that a significant amount of the election problems root from things other than identity politics)

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

this is pretty much every diehard class-exclusionary idpol actually since you now even get dogpiled in d&d for saying that clinton's campaign made less mistakes than obvious

though you get dogpiled in d&d by the trump supporters and liberterians simply stating the obvious because socialists are instaprobated on sight for being "racsexist" (a term that describes someone who is neither racist or sexist but have the gall to suggest that a significant amount of the election problems root from things other than identity politics)

what the gently caress is this post

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Main Paineframe posted:

nah, it predates that, even. "middle class", originally, referred to people who were neither nobles nor peasants. the upper classes were landowning nobles who made their money through rent-seeking, the lower classes were peasants and serfs who made a living working the fields, and the middle class was mostly city-dwellers who didn't own land but made their living through commerce - merchants, craftsmen, and so on

I think you just mean "rent". Rent-seeking is an entirely different thing.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
d&d is plenty dysfunctional, my guy, you dont need to write fanfiction about it

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

paranoid randroid posted:

what the gently caress is this post
the word "neoliberal" was too triggering for some in this thread

paranoid randroid posted:

d&d is plenty dysfunctional, my guy, you dont need to write fanfiction about it
well true, d&d is an amorphous atmosphere where anything goes as long as it's eighteen layers of pedantic or cognitive failure but whenever i bother to look at it that's pretty much what happens

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Majorian posted:

Are you loving kidding me?:psyduck:

What, exactly, is this impulse in Clinton diehards, to lash out at Sanders and his wife personally?

everybody is a target!!

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
bernie sanders had a dog who maimed and killed a child in 1992

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
hillary clinton only killed vince foster because she wanted to see the life leave his eyes

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the word "neoliberal" was too triggering for some in this thread

well true, d&d is an amorphous atmosphere where anything goes as long as it's eighteen layers of pedantic or cognitive failure but whenever i bother to look at it that's pretty much what happens

You sound upset.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
we're all upset, bob

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Captain_Maclaine posted:

You sound upset.
i have an upset stomach

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

paranoid randroid posted:

we're all upset, bob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGKBfew6hSU&t=331s

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

logikv9 posted:

bernie sanders had a dog who maimed and killed a child in 1992

While definitely true, this pales in comparison to the time he personally shot and killed all those children in Connecticut

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
its advised you have at least one protective layer of ironic gimmickry when posting in cspam

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

we're all upset, bob

Tryhard is the new kek.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Yes I'm not an accelerationist but with Trump we get the grand experiment as to whether accelerationism works. I supported Clinton because I didn't think a popular leftist movement - as distinguished from a campaign for office - existed with Bernie and wanted to avoid the accelerationism we're gonna see with Trump.

And $200k is middle class; most of what we popularly consider middle class is actually working poor. Things are actually even worse than they seem!

loving hell dude

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

paranoid randroid posted:

its advised you have at least one protective layer of ironic gimmickry when posting in cspam
i post like i'm a character in "dr. capitalism, or how i learned to stop worrying and enjoy the likely nuclear end of the united states of america"

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

dirty nuclear payloads branded with coca cola so we can enjoy the sweet refreshing taste for a microsecond before we get willed out of existence by pure energy

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

dirty nuclear payloads branded with coca cola so we can enjoy the sweet refreshing taste for a microsecond before we get willed out of existence by pure energy

hell, it's better than what most people get

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
i post raw and unshielded because i cant not be real, and unfortunately its giving me extensive brain damage

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

i post raw and unshielded because i cant not be real, and unfortunately its giving me extensive brain damage

I mean, to be fair, you did tell us you were hardore.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
i rawdog post

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

anime was right posted:

100% death tax will just mean people will scramble to spend any cent on their children in other ways that would privilege them.

just make the estate tax pretty progressive and eliminate avoidance loopholes (like gifting houses for a dollar)

Actually 100% death tax will just mean their full time accountant moves all their assets into a legal trust so they legally don't own any estate to be taxed.


If you want to get really progressive along these lines you're going to have to change it so that corporations are not people and take action to restrict hiding assets in trusts.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

That's how you get fail-AIDS, bro.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Rastor posted:

If you want to get really progressive along these lines you're going to have to change it so that corporations are not people and take action to restrict hiding assets in trusts.
well, and undo the process that established unpersonhood of actual human beings as well

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

it's amazing how many actual rights you get by creating "gently caress nuts, llc" in your name

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Rastor posted:

Actually 100% death tax will just mean their full time accountant moves all their assets into a legal trust so they legally don't own any estate to be taxed.


If you want to get really progressive along these lines you're going to have to change it so that corporations are not people and take action to restrict hiding assets in trusts.

Trust busting would be an obviously necessary aspect of progressive taxation and estate tax.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

logikv9 posted:

bernie sanders had a dog who maimed and killed a child in 1992

lmbo that owns :twisted:

now thats a story that wouldve driven the bloodlust vote away from Trump to Bernie, and those would be the ones in the undecided/independent category

paranoid randroid posted:

its advised you have at least one protective layer of ironic gimmickry when posting in cspam

one irony sure

im more partial to coating it liberally with a couple of other layers like nihilism and just being all around drunk whenever possible just to mix it up

Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 20:27 on Jan 17, 2017

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007


I think he's admitting white people are space aliens??

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

i post raw and unshielded because i cant not be real, and unfortunately its giving me extensive brain damage

same except i'm giving others the braindamage

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

jarofpiss posted:

same except i'm giving others the braindamage

u cant handle the truth, i say smugly to another guy who is trying to handle it but cannot and is frothingly a probation away from a bad post :smugbert:

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