Nintendo: NX gonna give it to ya.

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

tenderjerk posted:

Can someone in the Nintendo Switch thread tell me what makes Fates so bad compared to Awakening? I keep hearing "the story is bad" and "Birthright is too easy", but as good as Awakening was, that game didn't exactly knock either of these two things out of the park (awakening's premise was cool but I stopped caring what was going on the last 10 or so chapters) . I assume there are more classes, feet, and more crazy 'shipping options, so I'm not sure what's the deal? I ask because I recently finished Awakening, loved it, and would love more FE fix but everything I read about Fates boils down to "it's not as good as Awakening"

The gameplay in fates is way better than awakening. The story and characters are worse but the gameplay is no contest.

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 20:03

MMF Freeway: Sep 15, 2010; Later!

TWIST FIST posted:

i hope someone saves nintendo

Only you can save nintendo, by buying a new pair of joycons for $90

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:12

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Wheany posted:

I love the ones that complain about games being all about graphics and not gameplay these days, in like 1989 or something.

Found the link:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.video/YPjO6oqO9BY/RvgZuDTux4oJ

quote:

Rey Villarreal 9/8/89
I must agree with you. The vast majority of games today seem to put
their emphasis on graphics rather than gameplay. Bosconian (although
not a great hit) would be my number one also.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:12

Megasabin: Sep 9, 2003; I get half!!

a.lo posted:

why won't it be launch

Just regurgitation information I've read here. I'd love to be wrong. I want a pro controller ASAP.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:12

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Wheany posted:

Found the link:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.video/YPjO6oqO9BY/RvgZuDTux4oJ

Also: SNES was released November 21, 1990 in Japan, so games were all about graphics and not gameplay a full year before the SNES was even released.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:14

The Duchess Smackarse: May 8, 2012; by Lowtax

Andrast posted:

The gameplay in fates is way better than awakening. The story and characters are worse but the gameplay is no contest.

Until you get near the end and the enemies are just hordes of dudes with near max strength and axes and all your guys die in a single hit. Not to mention the critical hits!

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cuntman.net: Mar 1, 2013

MMF Freeway posted:

Only you can save nintendo, by buying a new pair of joycons for $90

this will be the greatest thing ive ever done

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:15

deadwing: Mar 5, 2007

MMF Freeway posted:

Only you can save nintendo, by buying a new pair of joycons for $90

Buying a new pair of Joycons when you can just buy a second console is a total fuckman move imo

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:16

Calaveron: Aug 7, 2006

Why is it that I could not get enough fire emblems from 7 until awakening but then these three fire emblem games come out at relatively the same time and I stopped playing not even halfway through the first one
I'm not being cheeky I genuinely wanna know why my interest waned so hard.

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Jimmy Hats posted:

Until you get near the end and the enemies are just hordes of dudes with near max strength and axes and all your guys die in a single hit. Not to mention the critical hits!

You just described awakening endgame. Birthright has a tendency to put hordes at you like awakening but the mechanics are better so it's not as bad and Conquest doesn't do it at all.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:17

The Duchess Smackarse: May 8, 2012; by Lowtax

Andrast posted:

You just described awakening endgame. Birthright has a tendency to put hordes at you like awakening but the mechanics are better so it's not as bad and Conquest doesn't do it at all.

No, that was the birthright end game. Awakening was hot poo poo too, though.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:19

tenderjerk: Nov 6, 2008; Can't post for 353 days!

Calaveron posted:

Why is it that I could not get enough fire emblems from 7 until awakening but then these three fire emblem games come out at relatively the same time and I stopped playing not even halfway through the first one
I'm not being cheeky I genuinely wanna know why my interest waned so hard.

The spectre of permadeath? I know I'm the inverse with the series because I'm too OCD to not lose anyone yet not good enough to get good at Fire Emblem

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Jimmy Hats posted:

No, that was the birthright end game. Awakening was hot poo poo too, though.

Play Conquest. Birthright is deliberately like awakening while Conquest is more like the classic Fire emblems. It also has fantastic map design.

Andrast fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jan 17, 2017

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Alfalfa The Roach: Oct 13, 2012; You need to be a badass first.

tenderjerk posted:

The spectre of permadeath? I know I'm the inverse with the series because I'm too OCD to not lose anyone yet not good enough to get good at Fire Emblem

That's why Casual Mode is there so that people like me can play Fire Emblem

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:21

PerrineClostermann: Dec 15, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Advance Wars is better.

A shame the series is dead. I played countless hours of it on my GBA and DS.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:24

Rudoku: Jun 15, 2003; Damn I need a drink...

Waltzing Along posted:

Maybe we need two threads. A hate thread and a love thread. Then the fanboys can have their hug box and the haters can yell at each other and smugly post about how everything sucks. Then we can switch the thread titles.

Why? It's just gonna die when Mario Kart comes out.

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organburner: Apr 10, 2011; This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

gently caress this gay rear end country.

And the thing doesn't even have a pack in!

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

organburner posted:

gently caress this gay rear end country.

And the thing doesn't even have a pack in!

Yeah it really sucks. I might have been interested in the console even with the sparse launch lineup but not with that loving price tag.

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Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

you shoulda take the hinta

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:31

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

AOL User HIBISTUFF, September 15th, 1999 posted:

VMUS........future of gaming.............

No not the Sega DC vmu. Its to limited but Sega has started somthing. In a few
decades we will have vmu-like things playing dc quality games! There are a ot
of options with these things and I hope Dolphin and PS2 expand on it.

he was right

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:36

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

organburner posted:

gently caress this gay rear end country.

And the thing doesn't even have a pack in!

Andrast posted:

Yeah it really sucks. I might have been interested in the console even with the sparse launch lineup but not with that loving price tag.

Hey hey hey: You don't have to buy the console immediately. Especially if you feel like the price is too high or there is nothing to play.

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Wheany posted:

Hey hey hey: You don't have to buy the console immediately. Especially if you feel like the price is too high or there is nothing to play.

Well obviously. It's almost certain I'm getting this at some point, just not at launch at that price. I'll probably get one used like my Wii U when I find a good deal.

Would have liked to play a portable breath of the wild in march though.

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Modus Pwnens: Dec 29, 2004

organburner posted:

gently caress this gay rear end country.

And the thing doesn't even have a pack in!

Is that including ALV/VAT?

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Modus Pwnens posted:

Is that including ALV/VAT?

Yes. All prices in Finland include that.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:47

organburner: Apr 10, 2011; This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

I was gonna buy one at launch for 300� or somewhere around there

Oh well.
edit:

seems like Germany has better price, but with shipping it's still gonna be too much.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:47

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

quote:

"GAMEcube ruled E3!"
"What are you TALKING about? Xbox totally stole their thunder, fanboy!"

Gaga over GameCube? Not Quite...

First of all, let's talk about Nintendo. They finally let the 'Cube out of
the bag, and of course, the fanboys came slobbering in, ready to declare
Miyamoto their Lord and Master, making many industry analysts wonder if his
most recent work isn't a bit more subtly autobiographical than we might like
to believe. There are those who would declare that Nintendo has managed to,
merely by showing up and not sucking complete rear end, "win" the show in a
heavy-handed fashion.

Unfortunately, those of us back in the real world know that nostalgia and a
general good feeling are not enough to make a console worth owning, and the
truth of the matter is, the GameCube came out last week looking like a
viable purchase, but it certainly failed to establish any sort of real
dominance in terms of market potential

Before you send me hate mail, again, hear me out: What exactly was it that
Nintendo has managed to do outside make a lot of lofty promises and show a
lot of uninspired content? As far as I could tell, they failed to do much
more than come out with the same pitch we tore the PS2 a new one for last
Fall - lots of visual enhanced rehashes of old franchises, a few shiny
b-titles that couldn't move s system to save their lives, and hints at a
brighter tomorrow.

Sure, I think it will come, but was it here last week? Nope. 'Fraid not,
kids. I went to the booth, and I saw the content. I had our GameCube EIC
take me around for part of my tour, and the truth is, the things he labeled
as the most impressive games in the booth did little more than make me
wonder what the hell all the fuss was about. Sure, Eternal Darkness looked
great from a graphical standpoint, but 2 minutes in, I'm watching a puzzle
sequence straight from the Tomb Raider or Resident Evil series wondering why
anyone expects gamers to still put up with that crap.

And Super Smash Bros.? Wow...it looks better, as it must, and they added
side-stepping. Great job guys..you finally caught up with the original
Toshinden. Not that I don't love this game, mind you, but let's be honest
here. If you already have the N64 version, what makes you think the sequel's
gameplay experience will be more dynamic than Dead or Alive 3 or Soul
Calibur 2? If you ask me, your better off keeping your N64 copy and buying
on of the latter.

Terrible, I know. And before you ask, yup, I saw Luigi's Mansion. Let me
tell ya, as great as this game looks from a visual standpoint, but if what
we were shown was all this game has to offer, you're going to be bored to
tears quicker than you can wish for the sound of "ITSA ME!" Running around
catching ghosts may be cool for a bit, but after five minutes, I was
yawning. What happens when other people realize that they could be playing
something more robust? Sure, there may be more to the game, but Nintendo
didn't show or allude to this, so there's no reason to assume it. Based on
what was presented, this game is a one-dimensional flop.

And then we have the system's crown jewel: Rogue Leader. Man, this game
looks sweet. Julian and the boys at Factor 5 certainly did a great job of
making one hell of a beautiful Star Wars title, but again, the gameplay
dynamic isn't exactly earth shattering, and there is only so much one can do
with a space shooter. We'll have a blast with this game from start to
finish, but beyond that, would we buy a system for a better-looking version
of an experience we've had countless times before? Nope. To be honest, we
doubt anything more than a rental will be required. From a replay
standpoint, something like Galaxies takes the concept of putting you in the
SW universe and puts this game in the ground before it even hits, folks.
Think about it.

And then you have your larger questions: Why did Nintendo feel the need to
lie about running games off finished hardware at every kiosk? We were told
by one member of demo personnel that the hardware was wired into a dev kit
"behind the curtain," yet officials at the booth kept pounding their chests
in mockery that they were running on "final hardware." What fueled that, we
wonder? Hmmmmmmm.

And then there's the games we didn't see. We heard an announcement, but
where was Mario? Like it is some major revelation that Nintendo is making a
new Mario game.... Yet, somehow, this was a big restoration of faith? Is it
that easy? If so, guess what guys? I'm writing more words in a second...isn'
t this article looking better and better already?

And why were Zelda and Metroid stuck on video? Why is Retro, one of
Nintendo's most ballyhooed studios, swarmed by reports of big, big trouble?
Again, this didn't fill us with hope. Sure, we know Zelda will rock the
house, but the point is, that has nothing to do with E3. We could have
skipped the whole shebang and told you that it was coming.

The bottom line is, Nintendo did little more than show up, and everyone is
cheering like a bunch of skinheads at a Nazi rally. If they really took any
time to think about the message, they'd realize that they're being filled
with little more than quick-fix titles that Nintendo intends to use as a
hold-over distraction until the REAL compelling content hits in 2002. They
had a good E3, but it is nothing short of a marketing pitch to insinuate
that they had the best show ever. They didn't screw up royally, and for
that, they should be applauded, but they hardly won the day.

So calm down GC fanboys !!!

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pixaal: Jan 8, 2004; All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.

Andrast posted:

Well obviously. It's almost certain I'm getting this at some point, just not at launch at that price. I'll probably get one used like my Wii U when I find a good deal.

Would have liked to play a portable breath of the wild in march though.

Rumors say it's going to be region free, verify that and maybe importing will be cheaper because 2x the price shipping from the US might be less, which is hilarious.

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MMF Freeway: Sep 15, 2010; Later!

Pack it in gamecubailures

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Evil Eagle: Nov 5, 2009

Please stop writing fanfiction in the Switch thread.

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Elmon: Aug 20, 2013

Dexo posted:

Anytime Nintendo introduces a competitor in the handheld space they market it as the third pillar.

No really the GBA isn't a replacement for the Game Boy/Gameboy Color.

No really guys we are gonna keep making GBA games when the DS comes out.

No really guys the DS is still in our future when the 3DS is released.

gently caress Apple did the exact same thing with the iPhone and iPod touch until iPhone and other rampart phones killed the need for the touch family.

I mean it was partly true with the 3ds. They supported the ds for quite a bit. A pokemon came on it what, a year later?

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:51

Spider2414: Apr 17, 2013

pixaal posted:

Rumors say it's going to be region free, verify that and maybe importing will be cheaper because 2x the price shipping from the US might be less, which is hilarious.

It's not a rumor, that is confirmed.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:51

Kazy: Oct 23, 2006; 0x141 KERNEL PANIC

Arcland posted:

I mean it was partly true with the 3ds. They supported the ds for quite a bit. A pokemon came on it what, a year later?

Also literally all of those had backward compatibility with the system it was replacing.

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Modus Pwnens: Dec 29, 2004

Andrast posted:

Yes. All prices in Finland include that.

I'll buy you that Switch if you pay my health insurance and my son's college tuition

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:53

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Arcland posted:

I mean it was partly true with the 3ds. They supported the ds for quite a bit. A pokemon came on it what, a year later?

Yeah, because the 3ds sold like garbo out of the gate. Which is the entire point.

They keep their old handheld around in case poo poo goes bad so they still have some way of selling games to the larger install base.

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Modus Pwnens posted:

I'll buy you that Switch if you pay my health insurance and my son's college tuition

I somehow feel like that wouldn't be a very good deal for me

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:56

Waltzing Along: Jun 14, 2008; There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Looking forward to Pros being a hot commodity and selling on the secondary market for $200.

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:57

ONE YEAR LATER: Apr 13, 2004; Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!; Oven Wrangler

Andrast posted:

I somehow feel like that wouldn't be a very good deal for me

I don't know, it is launching with Breath of the Wild...

# ? Jan 17, 2017 20:58

Modus Pwnens: Dec 29, 2004

Andrast posted:

I somehow feel like that wouldn't be a very good deal for me

OK I'll throw in a joycon strap, you can even pick the color!!

# ? Jan 17, 2017 21:00

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

I really hope first party devs don't waste the good games on the piece of poo poo 3DS when this is out.

Obviously they will, and obviously it won't be a waste for them because 3DS games will probably sell ten times as much as Switch games for the forseeable future. But it's such a god drat waste.

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Jarogue: Nov 3, 2012

More Super Mario Odyssey footage

https://twitter.com/Fobwashed/status/821433899217625088

I wish they made a green or Luigi/Link colored Switch controller and system for launch. I would have have even waited for Splatoon 2 to launch if They had a Splatoon them Switch bundle.

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