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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I cleared out all the popcorn ceiling in my 50s house with nothing more than a hand scraper and a box fan before I learned about this asbestos thing.

Whoopsie!

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Chard
Aug 24, 2010




IPCRESS posted:

Some states in Australia now have Industrial Manslaughter laws. Your employees die as an outcome of your actual* policies and procedures? You are an executive or a member of the board? Congratulations, you're in the running for an all-expenses-paid trip to prison. In addition to your fines.

*: Meaning what's in actual common practice on your sites, not what's written in your employee handbook.

This needs to be universal practice decades ago, but also for financial crimes.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

Jose posted:

Just hold your breath longer imo

I find it easier to just hate all my co-workers.

"Quick! Barry's entered an area with no O2!"
"heh. He'll be missed."

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?

FCKGW posted:

I cleared out all the popcorn ceiling in my 50s house with nothing more than a hand scraper and a box fan before I learned about this asbestos thing.

Whoopsie!

Aren't the percentages in it extremely low? Maybe 3% in a completely pulverized ceiling is awful though? And if you just left it alone, then it would be pretty well encased and not prone to kamikaze-ing your body?

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

This morning it's OSHA-3, Florida Man-0. :smith: Same scenario that we read about all the time: person A goes into an unventilated manhole and collapses. Person B goes for the rescue and collapses. Person C goes to help and collapses. Turns out that it was a cocktail of hydrogen sulphide and methane that got them. Ventilate your confined spaces, people.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/01/16/crews-work-to-free-workers-in-key-largo/?e=uLXN0pHsbQKGPQ

I like how the whole tone of the report is "What a tragic accident" rather than "somebody is going to pay heavily for these 3 completely avoidable deaths".
The risk of encountering low-oxygen environments in confined spaces is extremely well-established and well understood and a few simple precautions would have prevented this from happening.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

But regulations kill jobs, can't have that.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Pistol_Pete posted:

I like how the whole tone of the report is "What a tragic accident" rather than "somebody is going to pay heavily for these 3 completely avoidable deaths".
The risk of encountering low-oxygen environments in confined spaces is extremely well-established and well understood and a few simple precautions would have prevented this from happening.

I feel like something very similar was posted not too long ago too :(

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

Ak Gara posted:

I find it easier to just hate all my co-workers.

"Quick! Barry's entered an area with no O2!"
"heh. He'll be missed."

Nice av/post combo.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
I'm pretty sure I've seen this here already but whatever.

http://i.imgur.com/nB27Rzq.gifv

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

:stonk:

The person with black hair is lucky he/she wasn't four inches taller.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BgREkkjcg

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Baronjutter posted:

But regulations kill jobs, can't have that.

You want air quality monitors? Well, you'll have to get rid of hard hats and safety shoes. Or maybe eye protection and high vis.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS posted:

Aren't the percentages in it extremely low? Maybe 3% in a completely pulverized ceiling is awful though? And if you just left it alone, then it would be pretty well encased and not prone to kamikaze-ing your body?

We'll find out in 40 years I suppose.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Baronjutter posted:

But regulations kill jobs, can't have that.

Can we just pay people to paint IF YOU GO IN HERE YOU WILL DIE on all the entrances? That'd create jobs!

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

FCKGW posted:

I cleared out all the popcorn ceiling in my 50s house with nothing more than a hand scraper and a box fan before I learned about this asbestos thing.

Whoopsie!

I've done, and have to do that to another home, too. I was told that misting it down with a spray bottle first helps there not be any dust which can potentially be the bad part. Dunno how true that is, though.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

It... helps. Not nearly enough.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Keiya posted:

Can we just pay people to paint IF YOU GO IN HERE YOU WILL DIE on all the entrances? That'd create jobs!
"Suicide Booth - entry $100"

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

AzureSkys posted:

I've done, and have to do that to another home, too. I was told that misting it down with a spray bottle first helps there not be any dust which can potentially be the bad part. Dunno how true that is, though.
Yo dude, please take that poo poo a little more seriously.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofrqm6-LCqs

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



asbestos is so goddamn sinister. a highly useful and abundant mineral that at first glance seems perfectly safe and inert. turns out it's a cancer machine and to top it off, the carcinogenic action isn't radiological or even chemical, it's loving mechanical. the poo poo's so finely grained it tangles chromosomes during mitosis.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

VectorSigma posted:

asbestos is so goddamn sinister. a highly useful and abundant mineral that at first glance seems perfectly safe and inert. turns out it's a cancer machine and to top it off, the carcinogenic action isn't radiological or even chemical, it's loving mechanical. the poo poo's so finely grained it tangles chromosomes during mitosis.

See also: chlorofluorocarbons

No more ammonia leaks maiming everyone at the refrigerated warehouse! Now the sun belt is liveable! Put it in cans and use it to spray insecticides, paint, cooking oil, or practically anything!

Tetraethyllead, though: everyone ought to have recognised the danger of that.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

VectorSigma posted:

the poo poo's so finely grained it tangles chromosomes during mitosis.

This shouldn't be possible.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



The Lone Badger posted:

This shouldn't be possible.

believe it

quote:

Mechanisms of Asbestos Carcinogenicity

...

Many in vitro studies also have been conducted with asbestos fibers. Haugen et al. reported that human bronchial epithelial cells were capable of engulfing amosite asbestos fibers and fibers within the cytoplasm appeared free or in membrane-bound vacuoles. They also reported that intranuclear amosite inclusions occur in human bronchial epithelial cells. Cultured rat mesothelial cells can phagocytize chrysotile A asbestos fibers(15) having a mean fiber length of less than 4 μm, and both chrysotile A and crocidolite asbestos fibers ranging in lengths from more than 10 μm to 1 μm and from more than 1 μm to less than 0.1 μm in diameter have been shown to adhere to chromosomes in metaphase and cause polyploidy.(16)

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


The old tiles on my roof were an asbestos concrete mix from the 80s and when I had some work done I had to pay a guy to come and do a full asbestos survey and he basically went "yeah I can tell just by looking that those are asbestos tiles because there's moss/no moss on them. Just don't grind them up and snort them and there's no problem". So that was £900 well spent.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

The Lone Badger posted:

This shouldn't be possible.

Have a watch of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y - biochemistry is exceedingly mechanical. It's amazing.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Platystemon posted:

See also: chlorofluorocarbons

No more ammonia leaks maiming everyone at the refrigerated warehouse! Now the sun belt is liveable! Put it in cans and use it to spray insecticides, paint, cooking oil, or practically anything!

Tetraethyllead, though: everyone ought to have recognised the danger of that.

God bless Thomas Midgley :911:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZAnnvSOEmw

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I loved Midnight Oil and all their songs for most of my life . But after seeing this video I cannot see anything else:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLv5AGeIJeI

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jan 18, 2017

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004


The one with the claw just makes me think this was an industrial scale version of

Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.

Hexyflexy posted:

Have a watch of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y - biochemistry is exceedingly mechanical. It's amazing.
Is there a version with narration that explains what, exactly, all that's going on in that video is? Because while it's cool I have no clue about like 95% of it.

Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

Tumblr of scotch posted:

Is there a version with narration that explains what, exactly, all that's going on in that video is? Because while it's cool I have no clue about like 95% of it.

The next video in the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzcTgrxMzZk

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

To be fair, they were probably going to kill themselves on the trampoline anyway.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Just put another trampoline on the ground and there you go!

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Mozi posted:

Just put another trampoline on the ground and there you go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXya2WoQKnE

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Platystemon posted:



Australians call these trucks, too, right?

Truck would be correct, but apparently that particular one could be described as a "pantech" truck, "pantech" van or just plain "pantech", derived from the old British "Pantechnicon van". :eng101:

I'm surprised it wasn't just shortened down to one syllable with an "ee" on the end, though :v:

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
I have never in my life heard pantechnicon or any abbreviation thereof used in Australia. The only relevant Google results are from people selling trucks, and I guess in that context it works as a term to distinguish them from other types.

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
As an Australian, I would use the very technical term "small truck" to describe them.

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